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― ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
They just raided and stole some bigger horse statues, nbd.
― Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link
hardmode vaes dothrak
― bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link
If pulling explanations out of our asses helps, then perhaps ancient Dothraki cultures were more advanced, and all that remains to show for it are those giant statues.
― Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link
maybe the producers wanted it to look bigger so they made it bigger
― ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link
maybe the other entrance has smaller horses
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
man dire wolves were just garbage-tier in this all along
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ILRYP5iV7ME/UWnVv54aYsI/AAAAAAAACIE/vW6m3DXJzH8/s1600/st-elsewhere_tommy-westphall-snow-globe.jpg
― ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link
they could have gotten a lot more mileage out of Jon Snow's return tbh, like more of a reaction from the wildlings and certainly some kind of reaction from Alliser and co. i was looking forward to a moment where they bring them out for execution and their executioner is...whoa Jon Snow omgwtf. or some single moment where his return is more of a big deal. i am totally cool with him coming back but i think they sort of fucked it up a bit. looking forward to the bastard and whoever joins him facing off against the Bolton crew though.
― nomar, Monday, May 9, 2016 12:57 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah, back one episdoe, gone the next, easily could have drawn it out a bit more. but i guess drawing things out is the last thing they want to do given how many plotlines they have to wrap up
― 龜, Monday, 9 May 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link
also seems weird that he came back without any, uh, impairments, other than being a bit more pale? idk i recall in the books that when dondarrion the lightning knight or w/e that is comes back it's pretty obvious that he's a zombie. like big gaping wound on his neck. or something.
― 龜, Monday, 9 May 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link
having Dayne wield two swords was a total Darth Maul move (props to whoever mentioned that upthread)
― 龜, Monday, 9 May 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link
lol ulysses
xp
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 May 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
Dondarrion looked like a zombie because he incurred injuries from actual physical combat; fortunately for Jon, he was stabbed in his torso, not his pretty face.
― Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/TrmsdG8.jpg
― 龜, Monday, 9 May 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link
so we're just not gonna get Lady Stonheart, huh?
― ian, Monday, 9 May 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link
I thought the showrunners had already said no to that...?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 May 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
So does Jon just have big, open, non-bleeding wounds?
― schwantz, Monday, 9 May 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link
i guess there's a lack of reference for how the logic of revivification works on the show? like it's either the Mountain or Jon Snow, at least going by the tv show? we don't have the benefit of Dondarion and Lady Stoneheart like we do in the books?
i guess this is the first season where book-readers don't really benefit from the books since it's gone so off course, now we're in the same boat as the rest of you fuckers
― 龜, Monday, 9 May 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link
Dondarion was in the show
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link
Can the reticence around Howland Reed's role at the Tower of Joy be explained solely because he stabbed a dude in the back (of the throat), and everyone was kind of embarrassed by this breach in protocol?
xxp Dondarrion was on the show a couple times, once before and once after revivifying. Also, BD and JS seem to be reborn because of religion, whereas the Mountain comes back through evil science (that's how I'm reading it anyway).
― Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2016 22:13 (eight years ago) link
oh dang i forgot all about that
― 龜, Monday, 9 May 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link
xpost ha always thought it was Howlin' Reed
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link
I read something that suggested Lady Stoneheart is still gonna happen
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link
Howlin' Mad Reed!
― Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link
If I hadnt read all those book speculations about Ned, Howland and the jon snow thing, I'dve had no fucking idea what I was watching with the Bran flashback bit last night.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2016 23:16 (eight years ago) link
Like I dont know if its just me, but it feels like they more and more rely on people being backstory speculation nerds?
I think the Bransposition is providing exactly as much information as they want you to have
― bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 23:25 (eight years ago) link
Thats a good point, given that stuff *is* just speculation. I'm terrible at going "what the hells going on?" in movies when *thats precisely the point*.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link
my money's on rickon to win the game of thrones
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 9 May 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link
We havent heard from Littlefinger in a while...
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2016 23:50 (eight years ago) link
he's in the preview for next week
― 龜, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link
Smalljon Umber is totally playing Ramsay with the offer of hostages. Ramsay's dead before the end of the season.
thought the exact same, the tone of the scene wasn't tragic or hammed up enough for osha and rickon to really be in the shit. shame about shaggz tho.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 01:01 (eight years ago) link
Could it be a random wolf's head? It didn't look that big.
― Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 01:06 (eight years ago) link
Wtf with the fart escaping pycelle's ass when he turns and sees franken-gregor?
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 01:12 (eight years ago) link
...I missed that! (you sure it wasnt just a chair squeak?)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 01:19 (eight years ago) link
fart was funny. and ya umber is totally playing ramsay. why else would he have brought osha along. she's just a rando wildling. i wonder if they know ramsay is gonna try his usually shit on her and she's gonna shiv him
― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 01:21 (eight years ago) link
def was a toot
ramsey getting got is the perfect end to this season and to begin what I hope is the fucking end of the series
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 02:17 (eight years ago) link
I know right, like I keep telling people how stupid the show is and to please let me leave the living room or change the channel and it's like they can't even hear me. I just keep watching, unable to walk away.
http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/273/1eeff950-ed5f-0133-243e-0e1b1c96d76b.jpg
― Evan, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 02:30 (eight years ago) link
Can I ask what Lady Stoneheart's function is in the books? I mean, it sounds like a cool idea but where's the necessity in it?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 09:34 (eight years ago) link
Remember this is extremely spoilery
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 09:36 (eight years ago) link
I think many book readers are asking the same question.xpost
That was a perfectly decent episode, I thought. It looked very handsome, and all the segments worked pretty well. Glad Arya's making some progress.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 09:37 (eight years ago) link
There's a couple of things with Lady Stoneheart. First of all, I guess it's just sorta cool? It's a surprise, and intriguing. Secondly, it prepares the reader for other things like it to happen, though book readers still don't know if it will happen... It also helps with remembering that there's still trouble in the Riverlands, the fact that Lady Stoneheart is rooming makes the readers more interested in what is happening there - and a lot is in the books, Jamie goes to the Riverlands, not Dorne, in the books, and Brienne is there as well. And lastly, it plays into the theme of transfiguration and fluent identity, which is one of the main themes of the books, imo. Almost every major character, that doesn't die, goes through an identity change, or a purification phase. Theon becomes Reek and Arya becomes No One, for instance. Jon Snow, obviously. This also plays into how ridiculous the feudal system is, based on an idea of immutable identity, which is broken left and right as the books goes along.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:01 (eight years ago) link
I tried to keep that non-spoilers, but...
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:02 (eight years ago) link
I'd briefly summarize stoneheart as the personification of violent revenge as terribly persuasive, extremely confused, and (literally) not a great look. Which seems to me to tie into a lot of Martin's issues with war.
― Clay, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:04 (eight years ago) link
Good analysis, Frederik.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:05 (eight years ago) link
I'm assuming they're not bothering with the Riverlands given all of that, and it would probably be a mistake for the series to widen the scope even more at this stage.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:22 (eight years ago) link
I don't know what the riverlands are like but sounds cool though.
My enthusiasm tends to drop when we go to the sunny sandy places and I don't know how much that's due to the story or me just not being too fond of those settings. Probably both.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:54 (eight years ago) link
Okay, thanks, I think I get it now. Not sure if the tv-series really needs it though. Seems like a very writerly device that wouldn't necessarily translate too well into the series as we have it.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:58 (eight years ago) link
The Riverlands are where Catherine Stark, née Tully, was originally from, and it's where the war mainly took place in seasons 1-3 (the whole reason the Freys and their castle at the Twins are so significant is because they control strategic passage over one of the rivers). It's located between the North and the Crownlands with Kings Landing to the South, and to the west is the Westerlands, where the Lannisters has their gold mining empire. So it's quite often the area mainly destroyed by warfare in the kingdom. Arya also spent most of her travels in the Riverlands. The devastation of the area is also described in much more detail in book 2, I think, and it does make the whole campaign of Robb Stark more nuanced when you see the consequences for the common folk.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 11:36 (eight years ago) link