itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

tried to get through this the last two nights

fell asleep both times

So a Booster Gold movie is now officially in the works, with Greg Berlanti (head dude on the CW shows) producing and possibly directing. Verrrrry interesting. Not one of the slew of already announced Synderverse movies and, in terms of tone, pretty much the polar opposite of his aesthetic. That along with the presence of Berlanti would seem to suggest that WB is trying to steer this ship in a whole 'nother direction.

Countdown to the announcement of Ezra Miller being replaced with Grant Gustin.

Booster without Beetle?

Gotta have Beetle

Make this an Ant-Man esque farce and I'm sold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJEzmwVD7E

IMdb has 7.1. for this film which is reasonably high for something i'm hearing such scathing stuff for.

& it is a bit of a mess. JUst rewatched in a better copy than the first time so it makes some more sense but still leaves quite a few things unclear. The thing with the senator as others have mentioned in the thread, why Batman wants to torch somebody right next to Superman's adopted mum, why Gotham is unpopulated etc etc.

Is batman branding people something from the comics somewhere or was that a Snyder invention?

Seeing this more clearly I could see that Thomas Wayne looked a lot like the guy who plays Jason in the Good Wife and the role is listed under his entry on the database. Though it says he isn't credited. Jeffrey Dean Morgan, hadn't realised he was teh comedian in Watchmen , aslo hadn't fully connected to him being the dad in Supernatural.

Well do hope that future movies are made more clearly.

Wonder Woman's 1918 photo presumably shows her with a fighting unit from WWI. She then apparently turned her back on the world of man which is a little odd if the first film dedicated to her is set in the 1920s innit?

NOt sure about a dark Aquaman. Also Flash really should tie in with the tv series though none of the films of Superman have tied in with Smallville or anything. But do enjoy that Flash tv show.

JUst rewatched

http://www.elfarandi.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/supermangif.gif?ec9db3

I didn't see why the Asian assistant was among those blown up in the courthouse. Or was that entire thing about Lex trying to frame Superman which might also explain why there was no real explanation given for what his long term plans with the senator were. Since everything was just leading up to this explosion.
& having people supposedly close to Lex blown up alongside everybody else pointed attention away from him. But doesn't speak much for one's tenure while working for the guy, do it?

Had to see if the problem I was having with the film were down to the lack of the clarity of the version I had seen.

Watched 10 Cloverfield Place just before it too which was cool. Looks like that's heading for a sequel don't it?

xp Yeah that was really bizarre to cast/introduce Mercy Graves and have her killed for basically no reason

What about Jimmy Olsen?

That was even dumber given the whole Jenny character that was supposed to replace him

guys i'm not going to get into an argument over what was dumbest in this movie

Poll?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batman-v-superman-fallout-warner-895174

Wow, so they're still tweaking Suicide Squad, which comes out in like two months. At least they see the clear need to course correct. Although Geoff Johns might just wind up steering them into a slightly different iceberg.

i'm sure noted dismemberment enthusiast geoff johns is up to the task of toning down the grim-n-gritty

they should hand the reins to bruce timm or the team behind the animated brave and the bold tbh

alternatively, they could go for the nuclear option and give frank miller a call

Wasn't Geoff Johns steered out originally after Green Lantern?

re suicide squad

"The pic’s trailers have generated massive positive interest in the all-star actioner that features DC villains, and the studio wants to make sure audiences’ expectations are not only met but exceeded."

orly?

Wow, so they're still tweaking Suicide Squad, which comes out in like two months

this isn't really unusual, blockbusters get tweaked right up until the last minute.

I guess by 'tweaking' I meant 'extensively reshooting', which is what it sounds like.

Oh yeah, reshoots are another matter.

great news guys there's a trailer for the r-rated extended version now becuase apparently the cinema cut wasn't violent enough or interminable enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AO19XY2rqc

was there more violence? it just seemed like there were more whiny bystanders

the r-rated part comes when superman loses his shit and blasts those whiny bystanders into ash with his heat vision

Sounds weird but more whiny bystanders was one of the things this film needed. Would have been somewhat easier to forgive its flaws if more of the characters were aware of how stupid the whole thing was.

those scenes are going to have the opposite effect. more brow-beating from the public! more of how we got to that stupid Congressional hearing!

But that's maybe what it needed! Because given how they set things up over 2 movies there's no reason why anybody on Earth should trust superman or even want him there. People should literally see him and run.

The first Kryptonian humanity ever hears of is Zod who killed thousands in the course of trying to destroy the planet while fighting Superman and they only even learn of Superman's existence explicitly through him.

This more than anything else (including Martha) seemed crushingly stupid to me. Before he's ever a hero to anybody he's known to be from the same planet as a guy calling himself a general who just tried to destroy the human race! Given the implications of that Batman shouldn't be the only person trying to get rid of him.

Even with that in tow the congressional hearing could've been a powerful moment if they didn't undercut it with a pee joke and meaningless explosion, or if the social values they give Superman in this movie didn't boil down to, be-afraid-of-people-and-maybe-help-them-or-maybe-don't-it-doesn't-actually-matter.

Tucker Stone from the factual opinion made a point that some manifestation of insularity and xenophobia is far more true to how farmers from Kansas would raise a child in the 80's, than 'truth, justice and the American way' which I guess is fair but if there's value in a non-inspirational Superman that doesn't represent humanity at its most altruistic or believe in the intrinsic value of human life, one that wouldn't be capable of this,
http://comicsalliance.com/files/2011/02/allstar06.jpg
then they haven't made anything approaching an argument for it.

They're insistent that these movies have a brain and ask difficult questions about these characters but they give no consideration to how actual people would react to what is being shown. Most people will forgive even the most egregious plotting inconsistencies if a movie is honest about the motivations of its characters or at least knows what it wants them to be. Instead we're presented with unexamined contradictions and asked to believe that they in themselves make for a philosophical argument, which is insulting (and I think to a large degree was behind the disproportionate critical backlash).

At one point, costume designer Michael Wilkinson told us that the red in Wonder Woman’s costume had been enriched for this film because “We always talk about it as almost like centuries of congealed blood from her victims on her breastplate.” At that remark, a journalist next to me muttered, “Wow.”

I can only assume that Batman's costume is made from the carbonized remains of the victims he burned alive.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/on-the-set-of-justice-league-the-movie-that-wants-to-s-1782290344

same event w a less skeptical ("neutral" imo) voice

“If every film is a learning experience,” I asked her, “then what did you learn from Batman v Superman?”


She paused, and let a rueful smile slip out. “The main thing we learned, I think: People don’t like to see their heroes deconstructed.”

I like the implication here that it's the fans who are wrong, that the film did something successfully which people just don't like in principle. Not that the film is a terrible attempt at superhero deconstruction.

People trying to accomplish goals together is the root of all great comedy in my view.

this guy is such a goddamned moron

literally every idea he has is wrong

Does he actually know what 'comedy' means? Judging solely by his output and that statement, I would guess that's a no.

I mean...WTF is he even saying? That sentence is making me way more irate than is necessary.

I think he's saying there's going to be "jokes" in this one

ie it's gonna be "funny" like the Avengers movies

snyder attempting comedy is going to be worse than nixon on laugh-in

the whole vulture article is a treat but this is my favourite part:

At Comic-Con to promote the film last summer, he wore a tight black T-shirt pulled over his muscular frame, but on Justice League’s Leavesden, England, set, the now-slighter Snyder was dressed in a tweedy vest and tie, his reading glasses dangling from a lanyard.

it's snyder's equivalent of rick perry putting on glasses. 'my douchebro days are behind me guys i r srs director now k'

Snyder doing comedy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aPqhFUvo8E

lol, that long take at the end

'that prologue, ancient Amazonians, humans, and Atlanteans are entrusted by the god Zeus to guard three “Mother Boxes,” a set of microwave-sized cubes that hold enough cosmic power to potentially bring about an apocalypse.'

More Kirby stuff. Good.

since when iss a mother box the size of a microwave

or cube-shaped

+ Cinematic adaptations of Kirby Fourth World material!
- Said material getting a cinematic gritbath by Captain Grimdark!

kirby's bottomless, kaleoidoscopic imagination explored by a man who possesses all the depth of a muddy puddle

hurrah