Buying A House: C or D?

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Some people like to fix houses up as they want them right when they move in, rather than waiting to accumulate more money for upgrades. A second mortgage is another loan on the house, usually in the the low tens of thousands for such activities. The lender has second priority for being paid back in the case of you defaulting (first mortgage gets all the money from any sale up to the loan amount), and the holder of the 2nd gets any above that, up to that loan amount. Riskier then for the 2nd mortgage holder, so the rates are higher.

nickn, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 17:27 (ten years ago)

It wasn't until I got a second mortgage that I realized it was basically just a regular loan, with your home used as collateral. It isn't really like your other mortgage that has insurance and taxes added to it and can be horse-traded to other mortgage companies.

pplains, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 17:31 (ten years ago)

Several people I know have bought their place from their landlord (having previously rented it) and it seems to have gone ok for them. I mean, I guess you know the flaws/good points of the place well enough so you can negotiate a reasonable price?

kinder, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 18:38 (ten years ago)

i want this place http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1438-Lauderdale-Ave-Lakewood-OH-44107/33497500_zpid/

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:24 (ten years ago)

that is one street over from my gf.

:-0

through a charles barkley (brownie), Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:49 (ten years ago)

oh rad!

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:50 (ten years ago)

guess what is down the street ;)

https://twitter.com/clevelandvape

through a charles barkley (brownie), Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:51 (ten years ago)

lol #vapelife

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:52 (ten years ago)

1.0 bathrooms! What an odd coincidence, such a round number (?)

StanM, Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:02 (ten years ago)

marcos getting a little too close to brownie's territory for comfort

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:15 (ten years ago)

it is weird, all those homes in that neighborhood have bathrooms in the basement, but those aren't typically counted in the number

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:16 (ten years ago)

http://www.criminaldefenselawyersma.com/images/pages/Restraining_Order.jpg

through a charles barkley (brownie), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:22 (ten years ago)

probably nonconforming basement rooms. in my area, at least, basement rooms can't be counted as bedrooms unless you have the proper egress window, which would take a bunch of money to retrofit into a home. stands to reason "official" bathrooms probably require some sort of code approval or at least permit documentation or they're off the grid as far as the building authority goes

typical to see realtors advertising "nonconforming" rooms but that gets cracked down on sometimes

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:30 (ten years ago)

it's also why a bunch of houses in areas that have basements in new homes tend to have a walk-out basement that they dress up with a patio/sliding door

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:31 (ten years ago)

Fuck a basement

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:43 (ten years ago)

For real tho

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:43 (ten years ago)

I have a pretty nice basement, could easily do something with half of it, but I just have some shelves storing things. It's a great place to tuck away your furnace/water heater/washer & dryer imo

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:08 (ten years ago)

Yeah if you've got enough space that you're not tempted to try and make them liveable then I can see the good qualities

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:13 (ten years ago)

It's a lot easier to have a loud rock band rehearse in a basement (two or three sides of the room being already soundproofed by, you know, dirt).

Garages, in contrast, are sonically very leaky venues (leakage both out and in).

embryo mtv raps (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:21 (ten years ago)

(just now realizing how much being a drummer influences my homebuying decisions)

embryo mtv raps (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:22 (ten years ago)

homebuying decisions based on personal needs and interests are far better than the people who buy for property value and "resellability" imo

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:38 (ten years ago)

Word.

Speaking just for me and my situation (the situations of others may differ), the lot is worth like 10 times what the house is worth. Had we not bought our house, it would have been an all-cash sale to a builder/developer who intended to tear down the creaky old house and build a new one. That was 10 years ago, so it's even truer now. If we should sell, it would likely be the same sort of deal. So there's really no incentive to make changes based on potential resale (or refrain from making changes that we want to).

embryo mtv raps (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:51 (ten years ago)

Hence the bondage dungeon

embryo mtv raps (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:51 (ten years ago)

so you wear bondage gear for drum practice, huh

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:53 (ten years ago)

i've never lived in a house w/ a nice basement or a neighborhood in which houses have nice basements so i've never really viewed them as anything more than a place for a furnace/boiler, hot water tank, and a washer & dryer

whenever i see a finished basement it still does not look appealing

tracer otm

that said a spare bathroom in the basement is nice

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:43 (ten years ago)

ok i am FREAKED the fuck out right now that we are actually going to buy a house soon

i wish the market wasn't so crazy, the way it is right now is that you pretty much have to decide that day if you want the house, no second or third visits really

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:45 (ten years ago)

good luck to you and yours, marcos

embryo mtv raps (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 May 2016 18:09 (ten years ago)

thanks puffin

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 18:10 (ten years ago)

the way it is right now is that you pretty much have to decide that day if you want the house, no second or third visits really

I'd only looked around with my agent for four weeks before coming across the house I bought. I drove over to look at it myself on a Saturday, toured it with my agent the following Monday, called her told her to make an offer Monday afternoon, and had the offer accepted on a Tuesday morning.

If you find the house you like and can make it work financially, ain't no good reason to freak out. For real.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 5 May 2016 18:49 (ten years ago)

only... for four weeks?

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:15 (ten years ago)

Well, in that time, we only went out about once a week. I looked at maybe 8 houses before I found the one I bought (and I found it myself online).

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:27 (ten years ago)

yea we are planning on making trips to cleveland once a week over the next few weeks until we find the right house

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:30 (ten years ago)

helps that we can look online to decide whether or not it's worth it to drive out there on a given weekend

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:30 (ten years ago)

that's fair

I looked at... a lot of houses, but in a short timeframe

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:33 (ten years ago)

Between Marcos sharing all these Cleveland house links and the woman I heard on public radio this afternoon talking about Cleveland (in the greater scope of the GOP convention, she was brought into speak on Cleveland itself) I kinda just want to pick up and move there.

I can't.

But I want to.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:45 (ten years ago)

I love these Cleveland houses, and for prices I thought didn't exist in the East.

I know there's an obvious zinger, but I do keep asking What's the catch? on some of these.

pplains, Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:59 (ten years ago)

tbf i think there are going to be devastating riots at the RNC

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:01 (ten years ago)

i am seriously worried

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:01 (ten years ago)

I love having stairs. I love watching my son ride down the banister each morning. Hey, I do even love looking down over the balcony at my kids as they argue in front of Minecraft, not knowing I'm watching them.

I say this because around here, two-story buildings are uncommon. And forget about having a basement.

pplains, Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:02 (ten years ago)

yea stairs are great, after living in apartments for 10 years it will be nice to have them, put the kids to bed and hang out downstairs. and some of these houses have a main living room staircase and another from the kitchen, it is kind of neat

marcos, Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:03 (ten years ago)

not sure about arkansas, but there are definitely parts to the southeast where a basement would be a fundamentally bad idea

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:04 (ten years ago)

That's why we don't have 'em.

pplains, Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:06 (ten years ago)

At least we can bury our dead in the ground, unlike those goofuses south of us.

pplains, Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:07 (ten years ago)

you've got the worst of both worlds: no basements, moderate number of tornados

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:14 (ten years ago)

which, after some research, it turns out florida has the most tornadoes per state. what a hellhole.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:14 (ten years ago)

I wonder if they're counting waterspouts, because I don't remember Florida being super tornado-prone when I lived there.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:19 (ten years ago)

You are right, though. It is a hellhole.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:19 (ten years ago)

***may this house still be available when we drive in next weekend*** http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1429-Wagar-Ave-Lakewood-OH-44107/33497900_zpid/

marcos, Saturday, 7 May 2016 14:40 (ten years ago)

it doesn't have as many updates as the houses in that neighborhood that go really fast but any idiot has to be able to see that this house is incredible

marcos, Saturday, 7 May 2016 14:41 (ten years ago)

I hope so!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 7 May 2016 14:42 (ten years ago)


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