itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

https://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/supermanwonderwomanbatmanchristmaslpfront.jpg

Weird, I think this movie was also originally titled Exciting Christmas Stories.

Now I'm seeing reports of WB getting more hands-on with Justice League and Snyder rankling at the interference with his artistic visionz.

C'mon, guys, don't tease. This impending implosion is such a gift.

studio interference will totally save this franchise

if there's anyone who's really demonstrated a clear understanding of the value and strengths of their properties, it's the studio

https://twitter.com/mjsamps/status/726832607955021824

Zack Snyder is the guy who they decided would be great for their superhero franchise

batman could get raped in prison. that could happen in my movie.

savin these million dollar ideas for the sequel, I assume

http://www.ew.com/article/2008/07/17/watchmen-chat-director-zack-snyder

My mother saw I was into this comic called Heavy Metal magazine, so she got me a subscription. You could call it ”high-brow” comics, but to me, that comic book was just pretty sexy! I had a buddy who tried getting me into ”normal” comic books, but I was all like, ”No one is having sex or killing each other. This isn’t really doing it for me.” I was a little broken, that way. So when Watchmen came along, I was, ”This is more my scene.”

is there any comic or plot concept he can't misunderstand? time will tell!

kinda hope he's trolling a little bc it's so on the nose but that does sound a lot like a super villain revealing his secret origin

just think if he'd gotten to do Tintin before Spielberg

Worth repeating: dude's been buddies with Michael Bay since college. Just sayin'.

it seems like he can channel rob liefeld on occasion

kind of want to ask zack snyder what makes something subversive, and whether his films are subversive

also he should explain the idea of a "high concept" film and how it differs from other films

I am 99% sure his idea of "subversive" is sex, violence, and amorality which is ... what a twelve year old thinks is subversive

a couple hours of superheros being badasses but he thinks he's doing political commentary at times, because he doesn't know realpolitik is something that exists

tbf his takes on batman and superman are subversive, in that they're attempts to overturn the conventional foundations of both characters

the problem is that subversion for its own sake is not often a good idea, especially not in the hands of someone who genuinely appears to be a moron

I don't think he's done anything to the characters that hasn't been done in comics at some point

his interest isn't "Watchmen is interesting because it examines the assumptions about these superhero characters that we like" it's "I like this because it's all grim and dark and shows how fucked up superheros would be"

I don't think he's done anyone has done anything to the any of these DC/Marvel characters that hasn't been done in comics at some point

Also, to hell with Aquaman, but I'd be OK with Marvel making a Namor movie.

Someone should drop a big pile of unproduced Garth Ennis projects on Snyder's desk and keep him occupied for the next couple of decades.

i'm stunned snyder hasn't worked with mark millar yet

I think it's only a difference of studios that keeps those potential soulmates apart. I think Millar has a deal with Fox at present.

I dunno; instead of the two being sympatico, who's to say they wouldn't kill each other after each feeding back into the other after several days stuck in a writing room together?

that's best-case scenario, right?

Again, it's like Snyder's knowledge of what comics should be begins and ends at Image 1991.

I wish. These characters could do with more pouches.

Years ago I interviewed Snyder, right after he made "Dawn of the Dead." I remember asking him if he was going to release an unrated director's cut of the movie, and he sort of paused to consider. "Well, I don't know, I think ..." And then this disembodied voice of a studio publicist came on the line and said, yes, he will be doing an unrated director's cut. I think that says it all.

Even with Spawn I don't think Image was ever even trying to be particularly dark and edgy the way DC has in recent years. It was a different type of extreme they were going for.

Superman needed more extreme pouches and Snyder totally let me down

Dawn of the Dead might be the only thing of his I found watchable, but it's mostly a serviceable remake

I did see some analysis of his recurring (bad) themes that noted the very first image at the beginning of that movie, during a montage of news footage clips, is people bowing down in prayer

who are the reeeeeal zombies, man

Oh Supes 1991 was blue mullet moreso than pouches.
Then later blue/red electrics

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YKHLMV8eVcg/Ucifw0oIR2I/AAAAAAAABuM/OkSXq3MrSeo/s1600/reign186-1.jpg

lest we forget

What was that Superman with long white hair+beard and piles of guns, in typical 90s Xtreme mode?

this one, where he kills clones of hitler?

http://orig10.deviantart.net/1e2c/f/2014/359/9/3/superman_kills_twin_colnes_of_hitler_by_maltian-d8b8lpz.jpg

The immortal superman: at earth's end

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_At_Earth%27s_End

hard-hitting stuff

Superman walks away triumphant, though mortally wounded. Bleeding to death, Superman carries the remains of his friend back to Wayne Manor where he builds a bonfire to make sure Batman's remains are never misused again. A recalcitrant Ben Boxer offers to make the Man of Steel into a cyborg like himself. Faced with immortality in a world that is no longer his own, Superman turns down the offer, scoops up the remains of his friend and walks into his own funeral pyre. As he burns alive, one child gang member throws his gun into the fire, saying that if it wasn't for guns, Superman would still be alive.

Considering Superman has hung out inside the sun, that must've been one powerful funeral pyre.

That's it, thanks. I can't imagine Veitch doing all this with a straight face.

This is barely related but just as another sign of DC's sad spiral, while most of the big companies are putting out comics with new material for Free Comic Book Day (it's today! go!), DC has opted to give away a reprint of a random issue of Suicide Squad that's several years old.

(sad fart)

tried to get through this the last two nights

fell asleep both times

So a Booster Gold movie is now officially in the works, with Greg Berlanti (head dude on the CW shows) producing and possibly directing. Verrrrry interesting. Not one of the slew of already announced Synderverse movies and, in terms of tone, pretty much the polar opposite of his aesthetic. That along with the presence of Berlanti would seem to suggest that WB is trying to steer this ship in a whole 'nother direction.

Countdown to the announcement of Ezra Miller being replaced with Grant Gustin.

Booster without Beetle?

Gotta have Beetle

Make this an Ant-Man esque farce and I'm sold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJEzmwVD7E

IMdb has 7.1. for this film which is reasonably high for something i'm hearing such scathing stuff for.

& it is a bit of a mess. JUst rewatched in a better copy than the first time so it makes some more sense but still leaves quite a few things unclear. The thing with the senator as others have mentioned in the thread, why Batman wants to torch somebody right next to Superman's adopted mum, why Gotham is unpopulated etc etc.

Is batman branding people something from the comics somewhere or was that a Snyder invention?

Seeing this more clearly I could see that Thomas Wayne looked a lot like the guy who plays Jason in the Good Wife and the role is listed under his entry on the database. Though it says he isn't credited. Jeffrey Dean Morgan, hadn't realised he was teh comedian in Watchmen , aslo hadn't fully connected to him being the dad in Supernatural.

Well do hope that future movies are made more clearly.

Wonder Woman's 1918 photo presumably shows her with a fighting unit from WWI. She then apparently turned her back on the world of man which is a little odd if the first film dedicated to her is set in the 1920s innit?

NOt sure about a dark Aquaman. Also Flash really should tie in with the tv series though none of the films of Superman have tied in with Smallville or anything. But do enjoy that Flash tv show.

JUst rewatched

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I didn't see why the Asian assistant was among those blown up in the courthouse. Or was that entire thing about Lex trying to frame Superman which might also explain why there was no real explanation given for what his long term plans with the senator were. Since everything was just leading up to this explosion.
& having people supposedly close to Lex blown up alongside everybody else pointed attention away from him. But doesn't speak much for one's tenure while working for the guy, do it?