― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 May 2003 22:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― the pinefox, Friday, 30 May 2003 07:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
Hahaha.
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 23 June 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 05:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 06:00 (twenty years ago) link
too much emphasis on mutable signs leads to neurosis, even though mutability does promote sensitivity. duality, two-faced women, never still, intellectual aspirations, similarly entombed by iconicity (sex/symbol:: adolescent optimist-girl), forever unhappy with the one twin that was projected, since the other was ignored. i think marilyn was even more empty, since at least judy experienced motherhood and it changes a woman. judy was the better singer, but marilyn was splendiferous in most of what she did, so i'd pick her
gemini women never fully grow up, and inside they remain little girls, even though a part of them always wants to
and a part of them doesn't
― Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 12:35 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 07:06 (twenty years ago) link
uh...have you ever seen Marilyn get TOSSED (and i mean tossed)by Richard Widmark in Don't Bother to Know after the cat fight?
which is a hell of a lot more physical than that slap Judy got!
i love both, but Judy was a singer, Marilyn never was a 'singer' she never wanted to be, that was never her goal(although she was a good singer, if you don't think so listen to 'Ev'y Baby Needs a Da-Da-Daddy' then listen to 'After you get what you want you don't want it') it was part of the training, she wanted to act, which she did very well....
― Celina, Saturday, 27 March 2004 08:17 (twenty years ago) link
I agree with you though, Judy was a singer foremost but her great gift was her acting in the songs, she didn't just sing the notes she put across the words which made her a better actress than Monroe.
― lily, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
classic
― erik, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 05:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
I just saw "A Star Is Born" for the first time last night, and though Garland has never meant anything to me, I am finding myself totally captivated by the icon that she is. I can't really put my finger on it...
Kind of like how Mary J. Blige always seems to be physically under the burden of a heavy, heavy sadness -- Judy is like that, too.
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link
http://204.50.24.183/bewitched/asherinterv/judy.jpghttp://www.cinematical.com/images/2005/06/JudyGarlandPhoto.jpghttp://www.nobby.de/images/movies/star/cjudy.jpg
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah, I agree about Judy trying too hard and vote for Marilyn.
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
She has her moments, The Pirate (which otherwise isn't very good) and the pre-tragic stuff in Star Is Born come to mind. There's a hilarious clip of her on an old Jack Paar show re-enacting Marlene Dietrich at a party playing a record of one of MD's live performances -- consisting entirely of applause.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
It's too bad they got rid of the Biography clock in Columbus Circle.
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
The roof of my old building used to stare straight at that Biography clock. It wouldn't even seem like...Columbus Circle, now. I mean, there isn't really much to lose about that area of town now but c'mon. :(
I used to love how it'd interrupt the weather forecast to announce who they were Biography-ing that week. "78 F WITH A CHANCE OF...HANK AZARIA AT 8PM WEDS...SHOWERS"
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
this one?
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
OTMest thing ever said, by the way. Probably my new favoriute musical number of all time.
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
there's no such thing as objective beauty!
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
(and perhaps i'm being purposefully obtuse in a sense in saying that i don't know what a hwood std of beauty is, but in another sense i'm really not - there's hardly a single mold that "beautiful hollywood stars" fall into these days, and i think that's been true for quite some time)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't really find Judy Garland to be personally attractive but I don't really understand the idea that she doesn't meet the general standard, and she's certainly by no means an ugly woman, and I really don't understand perfectly intelligent, well-read, educated people arguing with me on the idea that societal/Hollywood benchmarks of "objective" attractiveness exist, whether or not the individual agrees with them.
Granted Ken L OTM re: retroactive effects of aging badly.
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
I agree with Allyzay.
― the bellefox (the pinefox), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link