http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/19/trumps-putin-fantasy/http://www.salon.com/2016/04/19/donald_trumps_avenging_angels_how_the_orange_haired_monster_has_rewritten_the_history_of_american_conservatism/
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link
my intro to the word fascist was when my ill-tempered spoiled nerd friend called his mom one for not driving him to a magic the gathering tournament when we were 11
― flopson, Thursday, 24 December 2015 16:45 (3 months ago)
http://i.imgur.com/mfoTccj.jpg
― сверх (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:25 (eight years ago) link
for a second i read that where the infowars repost was going to end up being about the results of an M:TG tournament
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link
flopson that is the greatest thing
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
There he goes! To the center!
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yzwq7X8yE
Astounding 2011 Prophecy!!! 'Donald Trump Chosen to Lead America'
"Some pious people say casino owner Donald Trump is not a godly man. Should we, however, ask: Is Donald Trump God’s man? Retired firefighter Mark Taylor claims the Lord has chosen Mr. Trump to pull America back from the cliff. Rick Wiles interviews Mark about his amazing 2011 prophecy that Donald Trump has been marked by God to lead America."
― larry appleton, Sunday, 8 May 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/nv4C4QH.jpg
I thought this had to be satire, but a part of me wanted it to be real, so I checked out the guy's description for his Youtube channel:
http://i.imgur.com/UqrEXr3.jpg
If these people are part of Trump's coalition, I sure as hell hope he doesn't win. I don't want to know what an emboldened version of this guy looks like.
― larry appleton, Sunday, 8 May 2016 01:23 (eight years ago) link
That video is amazing. And the comments are even better.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 8 May 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link
Mussolini never had a pen
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/731882367493808128
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 May 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link
With a speech balloon from Tiny Elvis, apparently
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Monday, 16 May 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link
Greil Marcus, on whether DT is a fascist:
I think it’s less a matter of policy—though mass deportations would require suspension or abrogation of civil liberties and the affirmation of or acquiescence to rule by decree—than the encouragement of violence by supporters against opponents that suggests an acting out of Mussolinism. On a national scale with executive resources that would be fascist. Read Philip Roth’s The Plot Against America, but remember that Sanders supporters have lately tapped into the same strain and their candidate has responded with a condemnation of violence that translates as “Go for it.”
https://greilmarcus.net/ask-greil/
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link
idiot
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
Marcus with the moral equivalency.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link
so fascism is a latent impulse w/in the populace that can be evoked and actualized by authoritarian leaders (and would-be leaders) w/ who frame nationalism as a narrative of heroic redemption in a moment of terrible crisis.* so the trump question need only be, "is he an enabler?" does he give his supporters an opportunity to express the fascist impulse?
* as of this post, i mean
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link
I wonder if this question hinges on whether you take fascism to be a distinctive political (even "rational") ideology or more like an ever present human instinct to be kept in check through civilization, sublimation, etc.
― ryan, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link
I feel like the whole 'GET 'EM OUTTA HERE' aspect of trump rallies is totally fascist. I hadn't seen it in a long time but I got to see it today during his carny barking tour stop in Anaheim.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/714189569793646597
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link
the "i alone" thing is pretty fascist. also the fact that his platform is always changing, which means the campaign is about voters placing their faith in him rather than concrete proposals.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:19 (eight years ago) link
his very clownishness evinces a disdain for parliamentary procedure.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:21 (eight years ago) link
Third question itt is what does it matterFourth might be should usa ilx be so fixated on possible fascist d trumpFifth prob could be could my hands be doing something less wringy and more beneficial like making a nice sandwich or playing the lute or holding the pages of a fine book or hitching a ride to a carefree place in which i could more productively and less frettishly pass the interminable fucking delay between this sorry shitheap of a process and actually casting my vote
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link
This site is dying for want of a less stupid topic tbh
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:31 (eight years ago) link
Sad!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:33 (eight years ago) link
:-(
I am appealing to u wonderful, intelligent and capable people to just not do this anymore
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link
"topics are stupid, site dying, i alone can solve"
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link
I wish that last were true, but im clearly begging for a community effort here
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:38 (eight years ago) link
i agree with deems, actually, but i still feel drawn to worrying about stuff i can't control.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link
We'll have to get you all into watching the euros
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link
can i recommend https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=brexit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=when+is+the+brexit coming up v soon
― Mordy, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:50 (eight years ago) link
u don't have to read the bad thread, deems
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 May 2016 06:43 (eight years ago) link
do you play much lute deems?
― ogmor, Thursday, 26 May 2016 07:35 (eight years ago) link
lol @ liberal voice of complacency
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:10 (eight years ago) link
This may have already been covered but I think that fascism is generally defined more by what it's against than what it's for. Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were all about making their countries great again by being anti-capitalist, anti-Marxist and anti-all the minority groups. Trump seems to be going down this path by being against big corporations, the government and immigrants but being rather vague about how exactly he would achieve his goals
― paolo, Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:14 (eight years ago) link
Then again maybe I'm just one of those European liberals who's all like 'look at this right wing American nut! He's just like Hitler!' I don't know
― paolo, Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:16 (eight years ago) link
Mussolini, get it right.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 09:15 (eight years ago) link
@tinyrevolution Most dictators need 20 years of absolute power to reach the level of hateful paranoid insanity that Trump is starting with
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 June 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link
https://storify.com/case_face/a-trump-rally-in-greensboro-anger-in-here-is-palpa
― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link
Crowd won't clap for call for unity with LGBTQ
Bragging that he took credentials from WA Post. Crowd yells Kill them all.
Trump comparing immigrants to snakes
Crowd calls for Berghdal to be shot, hung
Confederate flags everywhere
Telling myself they're angry about the economy. About changing technology and industry. But there's so much base-level ugliness.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link
TLDR: he's a fascist
hi, am!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link
this is how nazi germany sharted
― hunangarage, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 03:21 (seven years ago) link
Has not convincingly indicated he believes in anything but the greater glory of himself.
Not provably a fascist, we'd have to see how he "governs." I'd prefer not to know.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:14 (seven years ago) link
I ran the how does it walk how does it quack test, and yeah he's a fascist
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:39 (seven years ago) link
can a duck do the goosestep?
racist yes, fascist incomplete
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link
suggest adopting working hypothesis
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:44 (seven years ago) link
altamont reenactors
― hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link
That rally livetweet is fucking chilling. Trump is just rubbing shit and dumpster juice into an already-festering boil on the ass of America. I can do without seeing the Mad Max-ification of this country in my lifetime.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
dude is so explicitly a garden-variety fascist I'm a little mystified that we're still in disagreement. not all fascists have a coherent fascist ideology; there isn't any Soviet-style purity test for fascism. Trump's fascism is natural to his way of thinking: his ideas (a leader gets to respond to the mean old press as he sees fit; people should have to submit to whatever a leader thinks is good and right before they can do as they like in the country that leader runs) are instinctively fascistic
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link
I don't get it either. I find the Cro-Magnons who support Trump vile but I at least get the vile place they're coming from. I totally don't get anyone who's still on the fence about Trump and doesn't see the legitimacy his presumptive nomination has gained him as a serious threat to civil society.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link
That rally livetweet is fucking chilling.
unbelievably so! i made the mistake of watching the youtube of that event out of curiosity this morning and i've been depressed ever since.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link
Barring some cataclysmic event that shifts public opinion in his favor, I don't think he has a chance of winning the election, but that's almost beside the point since he's done such a fantastic job of drawing the morlocks out of their holes and giving them a figure to organize around. We're going to be wistfully reflecting on those halcyon days when the quaint Tea Partiers were the right wing fringe.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link