this has gotten so bad :(
― Better Pau Gasol (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 04:37 (eight years ago) link
Yeah post-S5 has been largely a drag - if they'd found a way to end it at five season it'd have gone out as an all-timer.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 04:58 (eight years ago) link
yup
― Better Pau Gasol (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 05:57 (eight years ago) link
Still an all-timer for me, even operating at half-speed. This season's been an improvement on the last one.
Not to slight Alicia (who's still great) but maybe the show is just a bit more boring without Will.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 10:51 (eight years ago) link
My partner watched this relentlessly while breastfeeding on the sofa and I joined in when I could, was a bit perplexed with the end of the Florrick Agos arc - I got that they moved into LG's offices, then Diane joined, next time I watched David Lee was there as well and it was like the end of Animal Farm. S7 still to go as it's not on uk netflix yet.
― Just can't get Eno, ugh (ledge), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link
yeah the loss of will pulled all the internal tension out of the show. Then Kalinda leaving. Really miss Lemond Bishop too.
― Better Pau Gasol (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link
S7, if it's the last series, is / was on more 4 recently so it might be on all4
― koogs, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link
Last week was episode 7.11, iowa
― koogs, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link
s7 is, mercifully, the last season
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link
"Mercifully"?
I mean, it's clearly not as good as it used to be - not even close - but it's still really enjoyable. I'm glad it's been around for two more so-so seasons rather than quitting after the fifth.
Good decision to stop now though.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link
― koogs, Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:35 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've got up to episode 18 of season 7 so are there different speeds that seasons are being broadcast in the states or something.& I think there have been at least a couple of weeks since it was last broadcast new, seemed to be a major gap in several shows running not sure if it's to do with Easter or what. But then again don't know what is influencing American scheduling anyway.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link
It's been two or three weeks since there was a new one; some of that's due to sports. There's a new one coming this Sunday night. I believe there are 4-5 episodes left.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link
Objection! Speculation!
― Just can't get Eno, ugh (ledge), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link
The series finale was 99% garbage. :(
It even made the last season feel worse than it actually was.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 9 May 2016 04:07 (eight years ago) link
I liked it!
In retrospect they probably should've gotten to the Diane/Alicia firm much quicker - maybe last season? Then we could have had fun watching it work (and fall apart) instead of the hyperactive plottiness of the past half season.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link
Huh!
http://www.thewrap.com/the-good-wife-spinoff-officially-goes-to-cbs-all-access/
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 1 September 2016 00:29 (eight years ago) link
Hey pay for a cbs subscription too!!
― Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:10 (eight years ago) link
wait, there's a living human walking the earth right now whose name is 'cush jumbo'?
what a world
― i can pee through time (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 September 2016 09:25 (eight years ago) link
Just finished this. Season 6 was rough, but 7 was mostly pretty entertaining. I guess everybody in the world hated the final season? I thought it was powerful.
― Evan R, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link
i just never went back after, i dunno, some point in alicia's campaign before it was over? and i don't feel like i'm missing out.
― j., Monday, 5 December 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link
Can't remember pretty much anything that happened in the last couple seasons
― Spottie, Monday, 5 December 2016 05:57 (seven years ago) link
I mostly remember the hideous BLM episode and the utter wasting of Matthew Goode
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 5 December 2016 06:00 (seven years ago) link
7th season wasn't peak Good Wife, but still a big improvement over 6th. I liked the new cast members. Finale (in retrospect) was pretty daring and memorable. Am very glad the spinoff is happening. And even when it's sub-par, it's a pleasure to watch.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 5 December 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, that's how I felt. I just liked the tone and rhythm and world-building of the show. Even the sixth season went down easy.
The spinoff sounds... low reward. I hope it finds a way to establish its own identity, without becoming "The Good Wife but sans most of the characters you like." That's gotta be hard to do, though. I'm not sure I want to see more of Eli Gold's daughter. And the quirky judge gags were starting to get old; are they gonna have a whole new cast of judges?
― Evan R, Monday, 5 December 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link
I'm just greedy and want to see more. Also - don't know if they filmed it before the election, but am curious what Trump-era Good Wife looks like. Also: Diane. Love Diane.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 5 December 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link
Yeah Diane rules. That's kinda why I loved that final scene; she got the final word
― Evan R, Monday, 5 December 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
Afraid the spinoff will just be 10 episodes of her arguing devil's advocate cases for conservative think tanks while Eli Gold's daughter makes quippy references to her offscreen father though
― Evan R, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
a little ditty bout marissa and diane / two b-list stars doing the best that they can / saying oh yeah the franchise goes on / long after margulies and cumming are gone
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link
Marissa and Grace start a law firm under the tutelage of Eli and Elsbeth - that's the dream.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link
Started The Good Fight. First episode was kind of a knockout, close enough to the Good Wife but still very much its own thing, and it was beautifully filmed. Super promising. Next episode and a half feel just like a lesser a Good Wife, though, just without most of the characters I liked, and look cheaply filmed.
CBS All Access is very clumsy. The commercial breaks are frequent and take forever to load.
― Evan R, Friday, 5 May 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link
honestly TGF was a letdown for me. starts out feeling like its own thing and winds up having way too much in common with TGW to feel like anything but leftovers
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 May 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link
hm i was gonna start this but now not so sure. these posts are making me think twice
― Spottie, Friday, 5 May 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link
not gonna go into details cuz spoilers but a bunch of TGW characters end up showing up, including a few I really never needed to see again
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 May 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link
thats lame
― Spottie, Friday, 5 May 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link
I've been enjoying it, more than expected (the UK is about 6 episodes into season 1)
Matthew Perry though...
― koogs, Saturday, 6 May 2017 04:38 (seven years ago) link
Found it frustrating because it was so often on the *cusp* of excellence but then lost the plot in what seemed like really basic ways.
None of the three leads are well-served - Lucca gets stuck in an annoying subplot romance with one of those awful handsome dudebros that kept ruining the Good Wife; Ygritte is great but never gets anything interesting to do, just react to a series of Job-ish increasing disasters; and Diane - who I thought would be the lead - somehow gets even less screentime than she did in the Good Wife, which is LITERALLY A CRIME.
Matthew Perry also returns to be annoying Matthew Perry, a new faux-Milo character gets added who's even worse, and none of the non-white characters get any sort of development.
THAT SAID I generally found it quite delightful to watch, was glad to be back in the world, Delroy Lindo is awesome (if underused), and after a really ropey centre-stretch it regains some of the pilot's mojo in the last few episodes. Marissa and the new PI also have an adorable double act (I would refashion the show with them as leads).
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 6 May 2017 10:48 (seven years ago) link
yeah Marissa rules
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 May 2017 11:04 (seven years ago) link
Also I miss Alicia & Will
Would also watch alternate universe show where they lived happily ever after and run a hotel together, or whatever
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 6 May 2017 11:12 (seven years ago) link
With Alan Cumming as snarky concierge
4 eps in now and it does feel like leftovers. Same Good Wife guest lawyers and judges. Lucca's relationship with the lawyer who looks like Paul Ryan is a repeat of Alicia's with Finn. And yeah somehow Diane is barely in this?
It's not terrible but it does feel tired. And setting a show at a black law firm and having it focus largely on three white additions to the firm is kinda gross.
― Evan R, Saturday, 6 May 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link
the Kings' attempts to address race have always been embarrassing
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 May 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link
The middle patch is rough going but the final two episodes course correct somewhat (helped by more Jane Lynch and less Paul Ryan ). Maybe it needed a 22 episode season and more space for do-nothing character development stories. IIRC Maya doesn't even try a case for most of the season! And Rachel from Justified remains the weak link in whatever she's in (kind of a dull actor).
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 6 May 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link
enh I liked her sometimes on Justified, her character on this is mostly just a boring scold
also this has made me remember the penultimate season of TGW where they made a big deal about adding Taye Diggs, then did absolutely nothing with him
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 May 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link
I don't care for the Emma Stone-y lead in this
Also very weird that of all the plots they could repeat from The Good Wife they (minor spoil) went with the vague grand jury thing from season 7. Not nearly invested enough in the fates of the new characters or new firm to care. But the quirky lawyer they bring back to defend the firm (again a season 7 repeat) is very good and fun to watch.
Is Matthew Perry alright? I assumed he'd suffered a mild stroke, based on his speech.
― Evan R, Monday, 8 May 2017 14:30 (seven years ago) link
It was v weird to see Rose Leslie cast as a timid newcomer considering she's best known as Ygritte from Game of Thrones. Also a bit sad/funny that she inherited the Archie Panjabi role (in the sense of having to use a dodgy American accent).
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link
Oh I didn't notice that was her from GoT. She was really good in that! Surprised that didn't open more doors for her.
But yeah it's exhausting how timid/beaten down she is. She's supposed to be the Alicia surrogate, the put-upon hero who rises up when the rest of the world is shitting on her, but she doesn't really have any moxie or unique character.
― Evan R, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link
Two weird things about the commercials that air on All Access:
1. Every break has one narrated by Julianna Marguilies, which was smart casting for the ad agency2. Some of them are for that Amazon Alexa machine, even though a subplot in the show involves a malfunctioning Alexa surrogate called Alida
― Evan R, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:52 (seven years ago) link
Interesting decision to cast Kenny from Frasier as the show's main villain
― Evan R, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 14:09 (seven years ago) link
Everything I know about grand juries I learned from this show
― Evan R, Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link
Anyone watching the second season? It's way, way, way better than the first. Tentative fingers crossed that the Trump storyline doesn't get too pleased with itself.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 20 April 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link