itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

My take on this is that I don't really want WB/DC to fail per se, but I'd be quite happy if they yanked Snyder(& his screenwriters) out of there and exiled them to some other pop-cultural corner to adapt some other bit of pre-approved IP.

Tho I can't say I wasn't hoping a little that part of this would fail due to the clueless hubristic arrogance of the entire venture, where the studio heads were doing what Snyder did on a smaller scale, which was deliberately shortcutting the entire process of establishing a plausible world.

Snyder just grabbed random shit from a coupla storylines he thought looked cool from the most superficial, tangible level only, and had no idea how that worked and no desire to go into why or establish. Frank Miller's TDKR only worked because it was after 30+ years of the Justice League existing before everything went dystopic and dissolving so that Superman was just the last one happily doing Future Reagan's bidding. Similarly, Death of Superman came after decades of Superman being this beloved, indestructible hero to Metropolis.

It takes time to set all this shit up, with decades of comics in our time setting the stage for the modern approach Marvel began building over the course of years with relatively smaller films before swinging for the billion-dollar fences. Marvel had Jon Favreau do a flick about b-tier hero with a faded, almost b-tier star. They gave Joe Johnston enough money to finally do a proper WWII dieselpunk film setting up Capt America. Kenneth Branaugh getting hired to do a LOTR film. These were bigger budget blockbuster attempts(at around $130-180M), but each successful enough to continue.

But fuck all that, we've got to get on with these. Hotshot this shit with one movie(sorta) and it will all work out, won't it?

Can easily see the dumping the Aquaman (lol), Flash, and Cyborg movies if Suicide Squad doesn't pan out. But just as possibly not, since they're all supposed to be brighter, more standard family fare (though that Cyborg cameo in BvS was rather gruesome). Have ANY of the DC movies actually gone down this route since Clooney Bats?

I don't root for the failure of the properties. I just want them to be in better hands. WB and current DC editorial have no idea what they have or what to do with them and it's just sad to watch them flail.

I was gonna say the comics themselves have been just as misdirected the past few years. I don't know really know how competent Kevin Feige is but he looks like a genius compared to these guys

One of the side effect of wanting to make movies with long-established and beloved nerdshit IP and deliberately ejecting all continuity is that the filmmakers don't follow thru with that part, and want it both ways. There's no establishing the import of this stuff in the actual film, just the filmmakers relying on audience knowledge and metatextual info. Why establish who Khan Noonien Singh is? Just chuck him in your movie and emphasize a dramatic reveal that does nothing for the actual characters in the story you claim you're telling?

I was never as big a fan of DC as I am of Marvel but I always bought at least a few of their titles. But all I've bought in recent years was whatever Morrison stuff they've put out and reprints of older (read: better) material. I know they've put out a handful of books that got some acclaim but they never last long and the rest look like garbage.

I _like_ Ostrander/Yale's Suicide Squad and I like the fact that this was the first team book they decided to go with, even if it's the sorta bullshit nu52 mutation with stripper clowns and body-normalized Waller. I'm curious what the film will be and plan to go if the reception by pop-cultural gatekeepers I trust(critical/on here/online) gives it the thumbs up.

But all I've bought in recent years was whatever Morrison stuff they've put out and reprints of older (read: better) material

Yeah, there's no way in hell that all the Deadshot/Sinister Six/Suicide Squad runs would be getting reprinted without the movie coming.

I just found out there was a 2002 Akiva Goldsman version of BvS.

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/254103/the-batman-v-superman-we-never-saw-might-be-better-than-the-one-we-did

"the logic of Lex Luthor’s plan to (I shit you not, this is what happens) resurrect the Joker so he could hire a woman for Bruce to marry in order for him to kill her, and play Superman and Batman against each other"

Was listening to a podcast about law in the superhero world and two lawyers said that Marvel and DC have joint ownership of the word "superhero" as a product trademark and they selectively use it to stop others from using it. Depressing.
And something about Marvel screwing over a guy who was involved with their webshooter toy.

what podcast was it? sounds interesting.

It's mostly about how law would operate within a superhero world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvQS4JDlYeM

The Jungle Book - $103,567,000
Barbershop: The Next Cut - $20,210,000
The Boss - $10,170,000
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - $9,010,000
Zootopia - $8,235,000

2 screens in Boston. :|

http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/image/upload/c_limit,h_776,w_640/t_mp_quality/5-times-batman-just-straight-up-murdered-someone-999a7596-ab73-4290-a9ac-f558cb647cd1-png-211772.jpg

i'm not a physician, but i feel like fucking on a filthy, rain-soaked jetty probably puts you on the fast-track to developing a really nasty uti at the very least

Nor are you the goddamn batman, so your opinion can be safely discarded. Or unsafely!

http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox7/

Turns out that bit is from the batshit Frank Miller/Jim Lee "All Star Batman & Robin" series from a few years back, which I believe was never completed

imagine being one of the goons batman knocked out, groggily regaining consciousness to be greeted by the sight of furiously pumping bat-buttocks. what's you next move? do you play possum, run off, take a shot at batman while he's otherwise engaged?

I am SHOCKED. This is SHOCKING.

The 'Flash' Movie Loses Its Director

At least we can rest comfortably at night, safe in the knowledge that there won't be any more hiccups on the road to DC's glorious cinematic future.

Grahame-Smith, the author and screenwriter of such works as Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, was to have made his directorial debut on the project

that's a helluva résumé - what a disaster for the dc universe

When your artistic vision fails to meet the standards of the man who directed Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter...

imo All Star Batman & Robin is good because it jettisons the premise that they're doing anything other than ridiculous grim and gritty trash and really goes for it

i'd enjoy it more if i could shake the lingering suspicion that frank miller is taking it all deadly seriously

By the time they got to the issue where Batman paints and entire house and his costume in gold to piss off Green Lantern, I was disabused of that notion

it is ok to laugh at Frank Miller and not with him, I give you permission

also, lol, I forgot that green lantern bit

OMG you guys: 'According to multiple, reliable sources James Wan is feeling a tremendous amount of trepidation about Aquaman.'

i know how he feels tbh

also don't want to just skip over that 'pissing off green lantern' stuff nhex posted - is that for real??? omg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/Chiasmata85/scansdaily/scan06.jpg

i forgot about robin offering him lemonade!

holy shit my world has tilted on its axis

imo a movie adapting all star b&r would be completely amazing and... batshit crazy

https://comicnewbies.com/2014/09/09/batman-paints-a-room-yellow-for-green-lantern/

I forgot the long dialogue exposition parts

This guy really GRINDS MY GEARS

He's got the IMAGINATION of a goddamn POTATO

"Fast hands, my little ROBIN.

Fast hands, big mouth..."

holy shit frank miller

don't forget that continuity-wise this is the same Dick Grayson that decades in the future will go insane and betray him in the DKR series

They need to make BATMAN ODYSSEY into a film.

I was going to mention that in my earlier post but forgot! Yes, they do.

was looking through my records and found this from when i was a kid. they even have the same visual line-up as in BvS. oh but simpler, more friendly times:

https://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/supermanwonderwomanbatmanchristmaslpfront.jpg

Weird, I think this movie was also originally titled Exciting Christmas Stories.

Now I'm seeing reports of WB getting more hands-on with Justice League and Snyder rankling at the interference with his artistic visionz.

C'mon, guys, don't tease. This impending implosion is such a gift.

studio interference will totally save this franchise

if there's anyone who's really demonstrated a clear understanding of the value and strengths of their properties, it's the studio

https://twitter.com/mjsamps/status/726832607955021824

Zack Snyder is the guy who they decided would be great for their superhero franchise

batman could get raped in prison. that could happen in my movie.

savin these million dollar ideas for the sequel, I assume

http://www.ew.com/article/2008/07/17/watchmen-chat-director-zack-snyder

My mother saw I was into this comic called Heavy Metal magazine, so she got me a subscription. You could call it ”high-brow” comics, but to me, that comic book was just pretty sexy! I had a buddy who tried getting me into ”normal” comic books, but I was all like, ”No one is having sex or killing each other. This isn’t really doing it for me.” I was a little broken, that way. So when Watchmen came along, I was, ”This is more my scene.”

is there any comic or plot concept he can't misunderstand? time will tell!