itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

John Hurt's Thunderbolt Ross is in the upcoming Cap movie so they seem to be acknowledging the Hulk movie a little more now.

I loooooooved the sleepy contemplative ramble that was the Ang Lee Hulk movie

― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:00 PM (3 minutes ago)

same here (still haven't seen Norton Hulk)

i assume by the wolverine under 'hoo boy' you mean x-men origins: wolverine and not 'the wolverine' which was pretty decent - - - the kind of forgettable "we watch as our hero goes on one of his many adventures" movie that i wish more of these were willing to be. i don't think they should ALL be that, but if they don't have a really unique story they want to tell through the use of this particular character/milieu, better just to be like, this is the one where he goes to japan and fights silver samurai, than to reach instead for gratuitous darkness-as-depth and emptied-out fate-of-the-world non-suspense. i remember circa spider-man 2 wishing that they'd just called it Spider-Man Versus Doctor Octopus and continue that naming through all the rest of the series.

I was about to make an impassioned case for Origins: Wolverine as the worst fucking thing to come out of the Marvel movie renaissance but looking at Blade 3 and Daredevil next to it is making go "actually, that wasn't that bad"

the "everything wrong with this movie" series is general garbage but this seems pretty OTM with everything regarding seriously WTF with regard to Ang Lee Hulk's direction and, of course, Nolte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBodAomTA2o

It's really really hard to mess up the wolverine Japan saga and the fact that they almost did makes me dislike that movie by default.
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I don't think I've ever wanted the ability to jump into a film and murder everyone on screen as badly as I did while watching Blade 3 and Daredevil.

of particular embarrassment is ang's regular gratuitous use of split screen panels
i like eric bana in it tho'

The split screen panel usage is one of my favorite things about that movie

gonna have to agree to disagree there

i forgot there were two wolverine movies, in retrospect i think i saw them both and they were both lame

I dont mind the first Hulk movie. Can't hate on juiced up dogs, eric bana constipated face, serene Hulk cliff jumping and elemental dad monsters.

UGH, that whole 'hey it's a comic book movie so I'll make it look like a comic book!' thing Ang Lee did drove me so far up the wall. It took me out of the movie no less effectively than if he'd inserted a series of smash cuts to a dude playing a trumpet with his butthole.

should've just used a bunch of on-screen sound effects. POW! SMASH! WANK!

http://s.sidereel.com/episodes/74371/featured_2x/104168.jpg

yeah the ang lee hulk movie is a mess but it's mostly an engaging mess, or at least an interesting one

the first two sam raimi spider-mans seem to me like the only wholly successful films to come out the 21st century comic book movie boom. but i haven't seen 'em all.

You should see the third one.

It's what I'd like to call "celluloid bullshit".

i did see the third one! I pointedly didn't mention it!

i meant that i haven't seen all of the comic-book adaptations of the past 15 years.

I got it, I just like fake recommending movies that are terrible.

I watched Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man back to back on TV a couple of years ago.

They're both "bad", but in very different ways. In comparison to the grim trudge that is ASM, SM3 came off pretty well. I mean the dance scene is a camp classic at this point, and Franco is a lot of fun it it too

count me in as another Ang Lee Hulk fan. we must band together.

I really did not like the first Captain America. it felt a little cartoony in not such a good way at times, decently mediocre the rest. loved the second

didn't like Thor 2 at all. bleh. liked the first one tho!

everybody ITT otm about Iron Man flicks.

GotG also great, Ant-Man a good entry.

did not like Norton's Hulk much at all, last half of it just looked like a boring video game. didn't like him as Bruce/Hulk (and I normally like Norton), much prefer Ruffalo now.

X-2 was really fuckin dope IMO.

i remember being really impressed by X2 at the time. like, okay, they got it right, now that's an x-men movie! i've been a little hesitant to ever revisit it because my sense of the first one is that it's aged reeeeeally badly and i don't want that to be true of the second. compared to where raimi got spider-man very soon after, they seem like kinda unwieldy ensemble movies, too many characters (which the third obviously runs over a cliff with, among its many problems), too much plot mechanics and not enough story. but even if they're flawed it's kinda amazing how much they got right - hard to imagine we'd have this current superhero thing going if the period had been kickstarted by daredevil and catwoman.

omg Catwoman

so easy to forget that....that....happened

also is there anybody in the world that saw Steel

"best superhero movie nobody in the world saw" might have potential as a poll

A contender:

http://www.hirescovers.net/gallery/albums/userpics/29733/normal_mss_generationx.jpg

Oh wait you said best

lol yeah i feel like 'worst' would basically become catwoman versus everything else anyway. would be interested to see people arguing the merits of meteor man, elektra, barb wire.

alternately: best dumb sueprhero comedy picture from before superheroes were popular enough for this to make sense as a thing. blankman, mystery men, my super ex girlfriend...

have never seen generation x though (nor the nick fury TV pilot) which is surprising because i really liked the comic.

Out of everything you listed Barb Wire is the clear winner. It's somewhere right in between Barbarella and Tank Girl, and in some ways might be better than both.

not having seen barb wire i am nonetheless kind of flabbergasted at the idea that it could possibly be better than barbarella on any level. tank girl is pretty bad though.

just think for a second, that more money than any of us will likely ever see in our lifetimes was spent on the catwoman movie.

alternately: best dumb sueprhero comedy picture from before superheroes were popular enough for this to make sense as a thing. blankman, mystery men, my super ex girlfriend...

I thought Mystery Men was great back in the day but I haven't seen it since back in the day to say whether it's aged at all well. An unadulterated Burden adaptation is just about my dream (non-Marvel) comic book movie.

A movie of the Gumby Summer Fun Special that Burden wrote would be the funnest movie ever.

i rewatched some of BvS just because i was doubting that i saw some of its scenes

batman punches superman a lot and notices that it has no effect. his next move? find some blunt objects to hit supes with.

despite jon peters having no credit, the movie features a pointless scene where a monster climbs to the top of a skyscraper and is shot at by helicopters.

how did this cost $250M? it's all either close-ups of actors' faces or 100% CG. the shot of superman recovering from being nuked is one of the shoddiest CG shots in recent memory.

on its 13th day of release, a wednesday, the force awakens made 28 million. on its 13th day of release, a wednesday, BvS made 2.8 million.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSGXERUKBj4

aaahahaha wow.

Hulk CGI looks terrible, freeze-frame death looks fun, if that's the Ang Lee one ppl are talking about having done playful panel-on-screen stuff

despite jon peters having no credit, the movie features a pointless scene where a monster climbs to the top of a skyscraper and is shot at by helicopters.

haha good catch!

Yeah, that kind of thing is what makes the Ang Lee hulk so fun, I'm very suspicious of those that don't like it.

ulysses list largely otm, Thor 2 in "great" is sort of jaw-dropping though.

i don't think they should ALL be that, but if they don't have a really unique story they want to tell through the use of this particular character/milieu, better just to be like, this is the one where he goes to japan and fights silver samurai, than to reach instead for gratuitous darkness-as-depth and emptied-out fate-of-the-world non-suspense.

I actually watched this for the first time last week, it does have an awful lot of "Wolverine would like to die" in it.

best superhero movie nobody watched = the shadow easily imo

i actually kinda liked the green hornet

it was a mess but there were a few nice michel gondry touches and it was occasionally funny. as green-themed superheroes goes it was better than green lantern...

Most superhero movies leave me fairly unmoved, but I did find Amazing Spider-Man 2 quite eye-catching and fun. Then I learned that everyone hated it to such an extent that it killed the franchise.

I would like to see a Flaming Carrot movie, but I have no idea who could direct a good one. Harmony Korine, maybe...

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alternately: best dumb sueprhero comedy picture from before superheroes were popular enough for this to make sense as a thing. blankman, mystery men, my super ex girlfriend...

http://cultfilmclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/spec.jpg

sky high was pretty good and mostly overlooked iirc