itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

Marvel's been smart handing its movies/money to sort of unproven blockbuster talents, whether the Russos, or Shane Black or...

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 6, 2016

irl LOLs

Shane Black was a proven blockbuster talent from a screenwriting standpoint sure, but Iron Man 3 was only the second film he ever directed.

here's what JGL said

In a post on his Facebook page, Gordon-Levitt said the project’s shift to Warner offshoot New Line had led directly to his decision.

“A while back, David Goyer and I made a producing deal with Warner Brothers to develop a movie adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s Sandman,” wrote Gordon-Levitt, who had been in line to direct and possibly take an on-screen role. “Neil himself came on as an executive producer, we hired the excellent screenwriter Jack Thorne, and we started in on the ambitious task of adapting one of the most beloved and boundary-pushing titles in the world of comics. I was pleased with the progress we were making, even though we still had quite a ways to go.

“Recently, as you also might know if you like to follow these sorts of things, the sorta ‘ownership’ (for lack of a better term) of the Sandman material changed hands when Warner Brothers shifted the entire catalogue of Vertigo comics (an imprint of DC) to their subsidiary New Line. And a few months ago, I came to realise that the folks at New Line and I just don’t see eye to eye on what makes Sandman special, and what a film adaptation could/should be. So unfortunately, I decided to remove myself from the project. I wish nothing but the best for the team moving forward.”

i guess they went ahead with Lucifer instead which i have not yet watched but i can't imagine it'll be on next season

maybe they should just do alan moore's swamp thing though i can't imagine how that would work... i would actually be curious to see snyder's take there just for sheer presumed wtf

"you fucking abysmal idiot, this was supposed to be a comic book movie about people who wear primary colors to teach bad men a lesson without killing them

although thank you for helping me understand every fucking other fuckbulb who enjoyed this and its predecessor"

that was a very adult response. well done.

xpost I think the Lucifer show is actually doing okay, popularity wise. I look forward to Fox's upcoming Shade the Changing Man show that'll basically be a loose adaptation of Catch Me If You Can because what's intellectual property to DC but a thing that you can turn into another thing that barely resembles the original thing.

Several sources say Warner Bros. executives were convinced they had the goods with BvS and were shocked when negative reviews began pouring in.

lol bright bunch of guys there

"what more do people want? Batman? Superman? jars of pee?"

"maybe it should've been a bucket of pee?"

first i've heard of a Shade show, that sounds dumb as hell.
i have not gotten on board with the CW renaissance; too soapy and glossy but i'm glad it exists

"what if we threw a homicidal Bat-Mite in there"

xp

can't wait for Snyder's grimdark Mister Mxyzptlk.

Several sources say Warner Bros. executives were convinced they had the goods with BvS and were shocked when negative reviews began pouring in.

lol bright bunch of guys there

― Οὖτις, Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:33 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think these are the same guys who were running jeb bush's campaign

"true we're polling 1% in Iowa, but if those 1% tell their friends, and their friends tell their friends, that's gotta be like, 47% right there"

first i've heard of a Shade show, that sounds dumb as hell.
i have not gotten on board with the CW renaissance; too soapy and glossy but i'm glad it exists

― ulysses, Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:44 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thankfully, it was just another one of my dumb joeks, but let's all pray that there are no WB execs secretly poring through this thread for ideas.

Since everyone in this thread agrees w/ StillAdvance that the 2nd Avengers movie is terrible, I went and watched it last night. It's great! Y'all are crazy. Action scenes are awesome (Sad Hulk vs. Iron Man inside a larger Iron Man), non-action scenes are funny (lol Thor's hamber is heavy), and I liked the lace of discreet smooching around the edges. Also Ultron is the best Marvel villain yet - scary, creepy and weirdly pathetic, unhinged in a way that not only amps up his monstrousness, but makes genuine sense of his many bad decisions. Lots of fun, clever dialogue, too. Exactly what I think a Superhero movie ought to be.

Am gonna go see BvS in hopes of catching this new-style auteurist Snyder-vision thing you guys are all amped about, but dude has yet to make a non-poop movie, so...

...or at least the best Marvel villain since Alfred Molina's Doc Ock.

I do not agree with StillAdvance that the second Avengers movie is terrible (or much of what StillAdvance has posted itt). Fully zero of the MCU projects have been terrible. I think they've all been pretty good-to-great. And I considered whether my hardcore Marvel Zombie-dom invalidates the legitimacy of that opinion but then I remembered that there's that whole thing where I stan for very very few non-MCU Marvel movie/TV projects.

Since everyone in this thread agrees w/ StillAdvance that the 2nd Avengers movie is terrible

not me

but dude has yet to make a non-poop movie, so...

wish he'd made a non-pee one

It's not terrible, it's just that there isn't much to compare it with except the excellent first Avengers movie. Which has a better villain :)

xpost Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen a movie that featured more urine or urination. Like every ten minutes someone is peeing or standing puddles/rivers/jars of pee are shown onscreen. I wonder about this dude.

yeah always be wary of ILX hivemind opinions

^ xp i agree on avengers 1 WAY over avengers 2; second one was watchable at best, first was a lot of fun
loki is better than CGI Blacklist

I just mentally add everyone who complains about the second Avengers movie being full-stop terrible to my gigantic list of people I will never watch movies with and then go on with my day.

hi!

well tbh not full stop terrible, no.

I actually wanted to see the Avengers a second time although that about did it for me; the second one I left the theater going "ahh, that was all right really" but at least right now I can't see myself ever watching it again. I just seems so lonnnnng and without enough that I absolutely LOVED. A bit like the Dark Knight/Dark Knight Rises shift although I ultimately had more serious problems with TDKR.

IMHO the best Marvel movie (that I've seen) to date is still Spider-Man 2, not a "Marvel movie" technically. Just the most full-hearted, the truest both to the comics and what works about its characters, and to some sense that it's made by individual people with distinct sense of style and not a house product getting cranked out. Certainly one of the best villains these have ever had, the character subplots are touching, and there a few really great set-pieces that make unique use out of the characters and their powers to develop suspense and thrills. Even the bizarre digression about the landlord's niece or whatever makes it feel more like a comic book, or like a movie, than like a "comic-book movie."

xpost guess you guys'll have to find another date movie to see at the Drive In

Avengers 2 definitely didn't have the rewatchability the first one had. I made plans to see Avenger 2 a second time and never did (though I thoroughly enjoyed it when I did see it).

best IMO is still Guardians of the Galaxy, with Iron Man 3 and both Captain America movies right behind it

I also really, really enjoyed the Thor movies

Well really I have enjoyed every MCU movie I've seen and can't wait to get to the recording of Ant Man languishing on my DVR

i thought the consensus "best marvel movie" was Cap 2 - Winter Soldier?
That's where i'd lay my money.

worst is Iron Man 2, which was merely "good"

norton hulk probably the worst, avengers 2 solidly mid-tier, cap2 / im3 / gotg all vying for top spaces imo

doctor c otm about spidey 2

oh I've only seen like 15 minutes of Norton Hulk, lol

I even like the Norton Hulk, although, yes, it's certainly one of the lesser efforts. But I agree wholeheartedly that the Cap movies and IM 3 and GOTG are the best. Agent Carter and Jessica Jones are the best tv projects thus far.

(NB: pretty actively dislike Ang Lee Hulk.)

norton hulk isn't terrible by any means, just clearly not as good as what followed

I loooooooved the sleepy contemplative ramble that was the Ang Lee Hulk movie

Iron Man still prob my favorite, followed by Spidey 2... hen Guardians and Cap 2 in a less a tie than a decision failure. Dug Thor 2 as well.

hey, look what I'm doing in the wrong thread!

Great:
Avengers 1
Cap 2
Thor 2
Iron Man
Blade
Blade 2

Very Good
Cap 1
Guardians
Thor
Iron Man 3

Okay
Ant Man
Avengers 2
Iron Man 2
Xmen First Class
xmen days of future past
Xmen
SpiderMaguire 1 and 2
Howard the Duck (could use a rewatch)

Hoo Boy
Wolverine
Ang Lee Hulk
affleck daredevil
Blade 3

Haven't seen
deadpool
The Hulk
any Fantastic Four
spidermaguire 3
any post-maguire spidey
any Ghost Rider
X2
xmen 3
any punisher
elektra
the ancient cap films or any other obscure stuff i'm forgetting (man thing, etc)
norton hulk

X2 to me is still the best one Singer has put out, would tentatively advise giving that a try (haven't seen it in a while)

Aside from some of the casting decisions (John Pinette? Really?), I like the Thomas Jane Punisher, and have heard some good things about the sequel but haven't seen it yet.

Hilarious watching Daredevil on Netflix and seeing all the framed headlines in the New York Bulletin offices dealing with the events of the Norton Hulk movie, which is otherwise barely alluded to in the rest of the the MCU. Like, there's a tiny piece of footage when Coulson drops off the Avengers dossier for Tony Stark in the first movie; and Ruffalo says, "Last time I was in New York I kind of broke . . . Harlem," and that's it.

(I like what is happening right now itt.)

John Hurt's Thunderbolt Ross is in the upcoming Cap movie so they seem to be acknowledging the Hulk movie a little more now.

I loooooooved the sleepy contemplative ramble that was the Ang Lee Hulk movie

― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:00 PM (3 minutes ago)

same here (still haven't seen Norton Hulk)

i assume by the wolverine under 'hoo boy' you mean x-men origins: wolverine and not 'the wolverine' which was pretty decent - - - the kind of forgettable "we watch as our hero goes on one of his many adventures" movie that i wish more of these were willing to be. i don't think they should ALL be that, but if they don't have a really unique story they want to tell through the use of this particular character/milieu, better just to be like, this is the one where he goes to japan and fights silver samurai, than to reach instead for gratuitous darkness-as-depth and emptied-out fate-of-the-world non-suspense. i remember circa spider-man 2 wishing that they'd just called it Spider-Man Versus Doctor Octopus and continue that naming through all the rest of the series.

I was about to make an impassioned case for Origins: Wolverine as the worst fucking thing to come out of the Marvel movie renaissance but looking at Blade 3 and Daredevil next to it is making go "actually, that wasn't that bad"