"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

huuuh

makes u think

thinking so hard rn

thinking lol must be pretty cheap to hire a billboard these days

It's illegal to charge for a billboard

its illegal to BILL for a BOARD

at least they wrote "THE TRUTH" on there to clear up any doubts

it's ILLEGAL to use WORDS plz refer to me only as a shape using semaphore

First I've heard of this. Woah, mind blown.

http://losethename.com/truth-faq-new/

Things you’ll need: Sticky labels

Note: DO NOT write ENGLAND on the address because LONDON is a country separate from ENGLAND.

Is there any proof/evidence of birth certificate fraud?

There is proof all over the internet

1. How does any of this name stuff help solve real problems – like chem trails, wars, corruption, poverty, etc.?

lol

stop being a buzzkill this is IMPORTANT

This is a wondrous rabbithole. My favorite so far:

If you already own or mortgage a home/land or apartment you may continue to live there and you will not need to continue paying the bank.

Alrighty then.

There's one in the corporate thingy location known as "Bournemouth"
http://losethename.com/expansion/

why

the police or po-lice, which means spirit seed lice. Li-Ce' also means the lie of creation or lies-se'.

Wow, deep. I also saw the "name" Nay-me, as in my name is not me.

DO YOU SEE?!?!

reading this is like having a stroke

they really think laws are like spells or something

I mean that's exactly it, and they're half-right, since the law is an elaborate closed language-game where words don't mean what they ordinarily mean except for when the court stipulates that they do. They're just casting magic that has no effect.

I dont understand these people at all. If the laws were not enforceable by the government, why wouldn't the government change the laws to make them enforceable? Why would they instead "pull the wool over people's eyes" by misrepresenting the meanings of the laws?

The "bush did 9/11" and "lizard people run everything" conspiracies at least have internal logic, they're just based on false premises. This seems schizophrenic in nature.

When pair-ents (two minds) or payer-rents choose to REGISTER their children, they are LITERALLY trading off the life source of the being that is SUCKED into that body in this reality for the whore of Baby-loans LEGAL NAME dead child, in essence, ADOPTING Satan’s child in LLEU of heaven’s child.

Read more at kateofgaia.net.

There are just a lot of leaps there. I'm trying to follow ya kate of gaia but you make it hard

how much more effective would their arguments be without capslock

i mean i know from me thats like the pot calling the kettle black but whatevs

http://s30.postimg.org/3kcujdptt/image.png

is the idea that ka te isn't bound by the laws bc the laws only recognize katie? is she mentally ill or a scam artist? If the former i feel bad making fun of her

"whore of baby-loans" is pretty good i guess, credit where credit's due

I eagerly await the first solid ethnographic portrait of sovereign citizen thinking.

I encountered kids in junior high who assured me they were masters of various martial arts, and knew special fighting techniques that made them invincible.

Pecunidigms; Combines the meanings of ‘Paradigms’ with ‘Pecuniary Interest’ to take the meaning to a higher level, being ‘pecunidigm‘;

Where essentially a person protects their paradigm, because of a pecuniary interest, or protects their pecuniary interest because of thier paradigm, you decide…

e.g. 1. You are talking to a solar panel installer, and you ask a few questions of course because you are interested in some way, then you ask should your friend ‘xyz’ get an installation on their home? what do you think they will say hmmm?What is their paradigm, and then what is their pecuniary interest ??? BOOM pecunidigm motivator.

2. You are chatting with a friend of your friend at a party, and ask if you should engage a lawyer to do ‘xyz’, you find/found out that they are a retired lawyer… OK! so what do you think their paradigm is first, and then what do you you think their pecuniary interest is, perhaps one of their children went into law also??? BOOM ‘pecunidigm’.

BOOM!

Boom! yes those examples were crying out for a brilliant new weird

This seems schizophrenic in nature.

― Treeship, Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:58 AM (6 hours ago)

Careful, Treeshy. I get what you're saying here but... just be careful.

But yes, it's fascinating in its bizarreness. I do love the idea that the corrupt and evil conspiracy that runs the entire world will just leave you alone if you declare your contract void. Right. Also the completely made up etymologies are brilliant.

The stories of "success" are interesting too, as a) these are mostly privileged white people being let off for minor driving infractions, and b) half of them actually aren't "let off" without a family member or friend bailing them out, but it's still seen as a success story.

Would I be generalising too much if I were to suggest that the whole freemen idea is something only stupid, pugnacious white people are into?

no

although: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/fck-this-court-i-am-justice-woman-uncorks-berserk-legal-rant-after-civil-rights-suit-tossed/

they really think laws are like spells or something

― lag∞n, Thursday, April 7, 2016 3:26 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've been saying this since Max's article! Spells!

Would I be generalising too much if I were to suggest that the whole freemen idea is something only stupid, pugnacious white people are into?

― jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:19 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It would be within reason imo but they're not the only ones clinging to this kind of faux-legalism. It has a distinct "jailhouse lawyer" odor to it, just with a lot of extra trappings that maybe are the unique part.

Would I be generalising too much if I were to suggest that the whole freemen idea is something only stupid, pugnacious white people are into?

Yes. The guy in the story I linked to upthread (the guy keeping sex slaves in his house) is black. Also, members of the Moorish Nation are very into sovereign citizen ideas.

They're just paving the way for the Etymologist King.

I honestly can't remember if I've posted this on here somewhere already, but if you didn't already know about the 'Conspira-sea' cruise there's a fascinating set of blogposts from someone who was on it (and a jezebel one). The stuff about the stuff on this thread is just depressing.

The promo site for the cruise has been taken down, but here's the archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20151119235204/http://www.divinetravels.com/ConspiraSea2016Speakers.html

The result is a fascinating irony. These are conspiracy theorists. They’re cued to suspect someone is lying to them. They pride themselves on being awake in the world. But they’re sleepwalking through the most transparent baloney imaginable.

It's an obvious truth, but a truth all the same.

fucking Andrew Wakefield was on that cruise thing, score another point on his credibility rating

I've been thinking about Ka Te / Katie and maybe it has something to do with the cardigan.

Cardigans make all the difference (Nina Persson to thread plz)

her aura is different

Been reading up on what happens when conspiracists meet conspiracies they don't like (do read the comments): http://wellaware1.com/newsite/the-flat-earth-nonsense-a-royal-creation/

(Somewhat off-topic from Freemen, but we've gone down the no-name + ConspiraSea avenue so I feel like it can belong here.)

I love these sites with the photos of obviously different people who are supposed to be the same person

In my conspiracy headcannon these guys just suffer from undiagnosed Prosopagnosia.