i would bet they didn't. it's the smart thing to do to just call it The Network.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 April 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link
I was just trying to work it out via process of elimination
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link
all shows like that exist in a parallel universe
like the Harold & Kumar one where N.P. Harris is heterosexual
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 April 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link
yeah, by process of elimination, it couldn't have been any non-cable network in the 90s
NBC ruled out due to being against Leno, Letterman and ConanABC ruled out due to being against NightlineCBS ruled out also due to Letterman starting in the mid 90s (not to mention Tom Snyder)
Arsenio Hall's show was syndicated, and I can't remember which local network ran it when I was growing up. I recall jokes about FOX on the show (tho can't recall any off the top of my head -- so maybe Fox?). Best bet is that it would have to been some fictional non-cable broadcast network.
― Dominique, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link
you both need a TV enema
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 April 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
been rewatching from the start and in one of the early episodes someone mentions going to work for cnbc which gets mocked by artie so i assume larry is on network tv.
― new noise, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:22 (eight years ago) link
that's what I thought too but then there was this S1 episode where Arthur was disparaging any show that wasn't on one of the big three networks as being not worth watching lol
idk it doesn't really matter, obviously the show has its cake and eats it too in this respect, all well and good I was just wondering
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link
xp non-cable network that is.
― new noise, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
someone mentions going to work for cnbc which gets mocked by artie
yes this is what I was referring to! Hank claiming he's got an offer to do a show with Dick Cavett
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
right... i couldn't remember exactly who it was.
― new noise, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link
it's something like "my TV only gets three channels, like a normal person"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link
lol yes! he's like "cnbc... what is that?"
― new noise, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link
i still miss grodin's show
― balls, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link
it's been awhile- was there ever a scenario dealing w/ other shows on the network that maybe alluded to say friction between snl and the tonight show (both w/ carson and leno) or letterman frustrations w/ cbs prime time tanking during the 90s? iirc though yeah, it was just 'a network', and it was understood to have been on for awhile. it wasn't like w/ 30 rock where they were actually on nbc.
― balls, Friday, 1 April 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link
I don't remember ever thinking there was a specific network that was home to the show, or that certain clues pointed in a particular direction. I recall a specific reference to the story recounted in The Late Shift about Leno hiding in the closet. I'll probably watch the box for the third time over the summer.
― clemenza, Saturday, 2 April 2016 02:29 (eight years ago) link
I don't know that the network was ever specified, but I'd always assumed the show basically took place in an alternate universe where there was one more big television network.
― I am very inteligent and dicipline boy (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 April 2016 03:03 (eight years ago) link
Norns OTM on this. It was always referred to as the network but every existing network and some cable were all dissed on the reg
― “I hate my wife. She doesn’t even have a dick” (sunny successor), Saturday, 2 April 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link
Norms???? Autocorrected from Morbs
― “I hate my wife. She doesn’t even have a dick” (sunny successor), Saturday, 2 April 2016 23:48 (eight years ago) link
I'm from the UK....what was Grodin's show like?
I love Grodin
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 3 April 2016 04:47 (eight years ago) link
it was a format closer to tom snyder or costas' later, generally a one on one conversation, no studio audience, only odd cuz of grodin. i just miss that format in general, costas would have one guest for an entire week.
― balls, Sunday, 3 April 2016 05:52 (eight years ago) link
lol Hank rehearsing his lounge act in the studio with Doc and Tommy late of the Carson show... and wearing tap shoes around the office. Opens with "Spinning Wheel." Artie: "You don't open with a showstopper, Hank."
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 April 2016 15:03 (eight years ago) link
lol
man I gotta watch all these again
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link
also extremely young Bob Odenkirk as the hotshot snaky agent for whom Larry tosses aside his oldtimer (who takes all his lunches "at Musso's")
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 April 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link
yeah I love when Bob shows up this series. Scott Thompson too!
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:45 (eight years ago) link
Artie in the Doubt of The Benefit episode I watched the other night: "Charity begins at home .. except in Hollywood where it begins at 7pm every night at every fucking hotel ballroom in town"
― calzino, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:57 (eight years ago) link
I'm as far as "The Party" in my rewatch of the box. One of the things I appreciate is that (much like with the early Simpsons) I am just old enough that all of the 1992 references all make perfect sense to me. Like, can people even five years younger than me why anyone would have been afraid of Dana Carvey stealing their show?
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 8 April 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
*get* why
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 8 April 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link
Carvey came v close to getting one of those shows... musta been when Conan was hired
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 April 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link
carvey tried to do movies and then did his primetime show which was occasionally inspired but has become overrated in some quarters due to having a writing staff that approached caesar's in terms of talent on hand (maybe even louis ck = carl reiner, smigel = brooks, charlie kaufman = woody?). then he had health issues and his moment passed.
― balls, Friday, 8 April 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link
Wasn't aware he had health issues. I just noticed that at some point his career became Master of Disguise, and I assume that anyone who wasn't around for SNL and Wayne's World just has no idea who he is now.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 8 April 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link
lol was just thinking of the chevy chase show (still one of the more amazing things i witnessed on tv live - it's been forgotten how much hype there was beforehand and ppl thought - reasonably! - that chevy could win the late night war) and trying to think of another snl castmember that could host a talk show and o, right.
― balls, Friday, 8 April 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link
Oh! There's actually a ref to how Chevy Chase could never do a talk show on a '92 episode of LS (when Larry is making awkward small talk with Catherine O'Hara).
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 8 April 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link
i just read about the Carvey primetime show in the Nesteroff book
show was considered as a disaster in the industry tho
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 April 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link
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iirc, Carvey was in fact offered Late Night, but turned it down.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 April 2016 17:16 (eight years ago) link
holy crap
In 1997, Carvey underwent heart bypass surgery for a blocked coronary artery, but the surgeon operated on the wrong artery. The blocked artery was deeply buried in muscle and thus hard to find; another artery, though not blocked, was clearly accessible, so the surgeon bypassed it. Carvey, later suffering from angina pectoris, sued for medical malpractice and was awarded $8 million in damages. He donated the money to charity.[23] He has had to undergo additional surgery to correct his heart problems.
― new noise, Friday, 8 April 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link
trio of 20th anniversary pieces from 2012, quite exhaustive, by Edward Copeland (who died a few months ago). Some great cast stories in the third one.
http://www.rogerebert.com/demanders/the-ten-best-larry-sanders-episodes
http://www.rogerebert.com/demanders/larry-sanders-the-show-behind-the-show
http://www.rogerebert.com/demanders/larry-sanders-changing-television-and-changing-lives
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 April 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
Forgot about the s2 ep centered on Tim Miller, "The Performance Artist," and him doing bits of his monologue My Queer Body. I took a class from him (lol '90s)! Him being given free reign on Leno is a good punchline.
I am just old enough that all of the 1992 references all make perfect sense
These shows are also old enough that sometimes nearly all the guests are dead. :/ One had John Ritter, Gene Siskel, Warren Zevon, Elizabeth Ashley -- only she survives. (Presumably still humping Rip Torn in the wardrobe closet.)
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 10 April 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
Another classic Artie line: Hank rediscovers his Jewishness and explains how a "spirit filled him" in a recent trip to a temple and is renouncing casual sex, drinking and gambling."Why don't you just lie down there and I'll get you a cold cloth, you poor bastard"
― calzino, Sunday, 10 April 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link
Since I just watched it, "The Party" wasn't one of my most fondly remembered episodes, but it does have a lot of moments of Larry being made uncomfortable, which are never not hilarious.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Sunday, 10 April 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link
"jurassic park changed my life"
― new noise, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 05:28 (eight years ago) link
is there any news on when this is actually coming to HBO
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link
Ride a painted pony let the spinning wheel WAAAAAH!
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link
"Hank, meet Elvis."
"Iiii don't thiiiink so..."
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link
first time watching thru larry sanders here. in the first episode i died at this
larry: "i dunno artie, it seems a little unethical don't you think?
artie: "unethical? oh jeez larry, don't start pulling at that thread. our whole world will unravel"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link
oh you are in for a treat
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link
have a hard time choosing a favorite out of the troika, they're all such perfectly realized characters, but I find Artie the most endearing I think
Artie is such a classic and he is just as funny till the 6th season, there ain't no drop off in quality.
― calzino, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link
"i can't go to New York; as a young man, i did some things for some people... Have you ever seen a Scorsese film?"
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:03 (eight years ago) link
Tracer if it's your first time I highly recommend watching in production order, not transmission order
― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link
what's the reasoning for that? i'm honestly curious because i just started rewatching it and while knowing it aired out of production order it never seemed to make a difference to me.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 03:05 (eight years ago) link