plus he was the first architect posted on the 10+ architects thread and that was surely taken into consideration by the panel when they made the decision.
― jed_, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:26 (seventeen years ago)
well yeah I mean Zumthor A+ good job well deserved glad it wasn't Pelli etc. etc.
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:29 (seventeen years ago)
Agreed with all the above.
So perhaps an interesting question would be: who DOESN'T have one yet? The list to date:
1979 Philip Johnson (1906–2005) 1980 Luis Barragán (1902–1988) 1981 Sir James Stirling (1924–1992) 1982 Kevin Roche 1983 Ieoh Ming Pei 1984 Richard Meier 1985 Hans Hollein 1986 Gottfried Böhm 1987 Kenzo Tange (1913–2005) 1988* Gordon Bunshaft (1909–1990) 1988* Oscar Niemeyer 1989 Frank Gehry 1990 Aldo Rossi (1931–1997) 1991 Robert Venturi 1992 Álvaro Siza Vieira1993 Fumihiko Maki 1994 Christian de Portzamparc 1995 Tadao Ando 1996 Rafael Moneo 1997 Sverre Fehn 1998 Renzo Piano 1999 Lord Norman Foster 2000 Rem Koolhaas 2001 Herzog & de Meuron 2002 Glenn Murcutt 2003 Jørn Utzon (1918-2008)2004 Zaha Hadid 2005 Thom Mayne 2006 Paulo Mendes da Rocha 2007 Lord Richard Rogers 2008 Jean Nouvel 2009 Peter Zumthor
(Not sure what's up with the two winners in '88 - it's a Wikipedia footnote that doesn't go anywhere.)
Of all these the only complete ???s to me are Portzamparc, Mayne and Murcutt - they just seem a little out of their league, but that might just be my personal taste.
Who's missing? Eisenman obv, but the sense I get is that he's made too many enemies. My friend Evan is betting on Steven Holl...
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:19 (seventeen years ago)
good bets in the next 10 years:
ItoBottaBanDiller & ScofidioMakiCalatrava
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:36 (seventeen years ago)
btw today it was announced today that the group led by Adjaye won the Smithsonian African American Museum competition! Official group is Freelon Adjaye Bond/SmithGroup which is too many collaborators to ensure a good project.
Still, glad they beat out the others and excited about the building
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/04/14/PH2009041401230.jpg
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:43 (seventeen years ago)
maybe Predock also for upcoming Pritzker
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
also adjaye? maybe in ten years.
― jed_, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
morphosis?
― jed_, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:48 (seventeen years ago)
I'm really thrilled by Adjaye's work but he's at a really critical point in his career where he's got more on the boards than he's built in total - can he keep up the quality control and the material/light sensitivity that have made him so good so far or it he growing much too fast? If he comes out of the next three or so years without a dropoff in quality he's a lock for pretty much every award there is.
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:53 (seventeen years ago)
i can't see him going all zaha.
― jed_, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
don't insult zaha she's a very good painter.
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:59 (seventeen years ago)
changing the subject... this thing is unbelievably hideous:
http://www.spaceinvading.com/bookmarklet/Images/02040912387166573395621835_c7680bfa1a_b.jpg
i knid of didn't want to sully the thread with it but wtf?
― jed_, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:05 (seventeen years ago)
Oh god I don't want to see/talk about that thing. There was a time when I wanted Ito to break out of his neat white geometric solid/void facade thing, but be careful what you wish for...
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:12 (seventeen years ago)
wtf is that?
― stimulus package (cozwn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:14 (seventeen years ago)
it looks like an office building that got drunk at the christmas party and is trying to do a mean impression of Torre Agbar because it's jealous.
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:15 (seventeen years ago)
it looks like a red plastercast
― stimulus package (cozwn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:18 (seventeen years ago)
cozwn: http://www.spaceinvading.com/index/page/9
I DIED - i'm guessing that ice-cold bar thing upthread that you hated so much has been usurped as an unfavourite?
― jed_, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:24 (seventeen years ago)
Botta = missed his chance I think - last ten years have not been sympathetic to this kind of stuff
Ban = agreed, total lock
Diller & Scofidio = after a few more buildings, yeah
Maki = already got one
Calatrava = oh god please no
Predock = plausible but not adding much
Morphosis = Thom Mayne, already got one
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)
nope! I think my intense hatred of that wine bar is based on the fact that I do a lot of bar/restaurant/nightclub design, so I know damn well I can do and have done better than that. When I look at even the ugliest 30 story building I think "well, it got built, it's standing up and it's probably waterproof, got me beat".
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:17 (seventeen years ago)
I agree that Holl is almost certainly getting a Pritzker in the next few years.
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)
"well, it got built, it's standing up and it's probably waterproof, got me beat".
qft.
― jed_, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:26 (seventeen years ago)
When I look at even the ugliest 30 story building I think "well, it got built, it's standing up and it's probably waterproof, got me beat".
I really should print this out and pin it up at my desk as a reminder to be humble..
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:09 (seventeen years ago)
c'mon, it's not like he did it himself.
― jed_, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:19 (seventeen years ago)
can someone explain all the massive ooohing and aaahing that goes on whenever someone builds a catilevered stair? sometimes it seems like the only reason a design gets any attention. it doesn't always look bad, sometimes the more blocky ones look very good but when i see something like this
http://materialicious.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/17/samalot_4.jpg
i find it not only unsafe-seeming but actually fairly ugly too. also i kind of wonder to what end the trick is being performed in the first place. it just seems so one-note and joyless to me.
― jed_, Friday, 17 April 2009 11:06 (seventeen years ago)
oops - like this:
http://www.stairporn.org/images/2008/08/17/samalot_4.jpg
― jed_, Friday, 17 April 2009 11:07 (seventeen years ago)
OOOOH:
http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/650127592_em2n-022-lie-070720-047023-cg-0720-047035-hannes-henz.jpg
http://www.archdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/1961022048_em2n-022-lie-070720-046546-cg-0720-04655830-hannes-henz.jpg
― jed_, Friday, 17 April 2009 11:32 (seventeen years ago)
incredible
― jed_, Friday, 17 April 2009 11:33 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah that stair is sexy as hell. The room, of course, is playing a big part in that - not so bad to be surrounded by a striated wall cove lit from top and bottom.
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Friday, 17 April 2009 14:11 (seventeen years ago)
I would love a video compilation of the first time people with new badass cantilevered stairs in their house have to carry something heavy on them or try to navigate them while drunk.
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Friday, 17 April 2009 14:28 (seventeen years ago)
omg
http://www.spaceinvading.com/bookmarklet/Images/30040912411331892017396872_selgascanooffice2381.jpghttp://www.spaceinvading.com/bookmarklet/Images/30040912411331901035034548_selgascanooffice2507.jpghttp://www.spaceinvading.com/bookmarklet/Images/3004091241133192339777624_selgascanooffice2885.jpg
i'm in love again. and i can't rise above it. i'm in love again. and i love, love, love it.
― jed_, Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:25 (seventeen years ago)
!!!!
― tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:26 (seventeen years ago)
just imagine... working there!
― jed_, Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:27 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.archdaily.com/21049/selgas-cano-architecture-office-by-iwan-baan/
― jed_, Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:43 (seventeen years ago)
So, I been a-travelin' again. As always, continuing coverage at my Flickr, and links below take you to lengthy babble by me...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3647/3491589926_62d4dea3d4.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3304/3491547738_b1e76c3630.jpg
Future Systems - Metropolis Tower
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 3 May 2009 14:37 (seventeen years ago)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3301/3495061524_bc508c3ea3.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3623/3494992794_8e30934402.jpg
PLOT (now BIG and JDS) - VM-Husene
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 3 May 2009 14:41 (seventeen years ago)
(More and better to come! A lot of this batch are kind of dingy and gray - Copenhagen weather turns on a dime, so I have tons of gorgeous photos of buildings I wasn't in love with, and then by the time I got to the real treats the clouds had swung overhead.)
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 3 May 2009 14:42 (seventeen years ago)
love this! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3302/3494169041_a1f622eb9f.jpg?v=0p9
― jed_, Sunday, 3 May 2009 14:50 (seventeen years ago)
Ouroussoff brings the hammer down on the latest version of Calatrava's WTC transit hub:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/11/arts/design/11calatrava.html
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:56 (seventeen years ago)
God I loathe Calatrava, honestly, one of my least favorite architects. Instinctive challops to some degree, but also I just have never been stirred by the soaring poetry of big white strutty things. It just doesn't do anything for me, and it's always the same damn thing. That said, I wouldn't wish the WTC quagmire on my worst enemy - see the very accessible popular-press book Sixteen Acres for a painfully thorough discussion of that...
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 11 May 2009 03:25 (seventeen years ago)
Oh, and
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3415/3514820228_03f34d05f5.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3514982637_679d55fa30.jpg
Sigurd Lewerentz, St. Petri Church in Klippan, 1962-1966
My exterior photos are mostly kind of cruddy, the light was coming and going and I'm still getting used to this camera. Seier and jmtp both have really nice ones though.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 11 May 2009 03:31 (seventeen years ago)
(xpost) I'm the same way - with the complexity of the site and Calatrava's tendency toward simple solutions and poor grasp of circulation mechanics (hello Milwaukee!) it seems like the transportation hub would have been much better suited to an SOM or OMA.
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:41 (seventeen years ago)
OMA would have been amazing - they stayed the fuck away from Ground Zero, though; the author of that book speculates that it's because Rem knew a no-win scenario when he saw one.
If the competition were happening now I suspect a few of the form/blob/"flows" types might be big enough names to take it on - FOA post-Yokohama for example, or UN Studio (inevitably with SOM or somebody else who really knows train stations). Might have still ended up a signature piece with too many cooks in the kitchen... but there is a whole school of architecture that has been trying to reckon with paths/vectors, motion in form, blah blah, it would have been an interesting moment for them. For better or worse. Instead, oh boy, another Calatrava building...
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 11 May 2009 03:47 (seventeen years ago)
http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/2009/05/11/hadid-opera-house-burns/
lol china?
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Monday, 11 May 2009 18:48 (seventeen years ago)
result!
― jed_, Monday, 11 May 2009 19:00 (seventeen years ago)
maybe they have a starsonist
― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Monday, 11 May 2009 19:02 (seventeen years ago)
agh thats killing me about hadid's
― (b)admin (roxymuzak), Friday, 15 May 2009 20:52 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, good laugh.
― jed_, Saturday, 16 May 2009 00:34 (seventeen years ago)
Wrapping up my recent trip, here's two AWESOME churches in/near Copenhagen...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2108/3542480664_26cd66a0a8.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2034/3541688721_e6e267b1ab.jpg
Jørn Utzon, Bagsværd Community Church, 1968-1976
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 May 2009 13:49 (seventeen years ago)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3538731797_f0f44e3b87.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3538927007_b1617ff9c4.jpg
Peder Vilhelm Jensen-Klint, Grundtvig's Church, 1913-1940
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 May 2009 13:52 (seventeen years ago)
Absolute musts if you're ever in CPH. Both are within ~5 minute walks of metro stops, maximum 15-20 minutes out of town on the metro. And they're gorgeous.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 May 2009 13:54 (seventeen years ago)