itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

lol I just checked a PDF and when Batman opens fire on the mutants there's a thought caption that says Rubber bullets. Honest

― Number None, Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why does that sound familiar... oh right

http://i.imgur.com/7Qbq3K0.png

right, it always seemed like just that -- a pretense, no doubt demanded by DC editors.

― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahhahahah ughhh

I think ima get fucked up before seeing this tomorrow

― Neanderthal, Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

second time ive heard this today, do i know you irl?

tbh this movie got me worried

AO Scott don't like it, even in principle
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/movies/review-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-when-super-friends-fight.html

But the point of “Batman v Superman” isn’t fun, and it isn’t thinking, either. It’s obedience. The theology is invoked not to elicit meditations on mercy, justice or sacrifice, but to buttress a spectacle of power. And in that way the film serves as a metaphor for its own aspirations. The corporations that produce movies like this one, and the ambitious hacks who sign up to make them, have no evident motive beyond their own aggrandizement. Entertainment is less the goal than the byproduct, and as the commercial reach of superpower franchises grows, their creative exhaustion becomes ever more apparent.

would love to see this crash and burn in spectacular fashion but the world seems set on opposing me

sounds more and more like it's phenomenally unsuited to anyone below or past the age of puberty

Snyder's movies seem tailor-made for the Wall Street Bro who still has that tiny spark of nostalgia for his old action figures/comics and the joy they once brought him. Oh yeah ... and has repressed homosexual desires.

anyone who goes to these movies after college has a not so deeply buried Randian in em

'hey girl, you got any deeply buried randian in you? would you like some?'

I know that the United States started remaking the nihilistic horror films that Japan had been churning out for decades, and I know that this is because after 9/11, we became the second modern, industrialized nation to experience the effects of weapons of mass destruction detonated over a civilian area. - See more at: http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2016/03/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice.html#sthash.ELDOsVt5.dpuf

Dear Walter Chaw: I assume you mean at least the fourth such nation, since both the Blitz and the bombing of Dresden killed more than 20x as many civilians died on 9/11.

I expect more from the critics at Film Freak Central.

Entertainment is less the goal than the byproduct

Yeah, this lines up with something the RLM guys said in a review of Fury Road(I think) or something in the last coupla years that Hollywood flicks seem to be mainly about inflicting a sense assault on the audience, where every needle is pegged, and emotional connection or content a far afterthought, so it was strangely revolutionary that George Miller was able to do what he did. The experience of most blockbuster attempts is to cough up enough dosh for a ticket to be pummeled visibly and audibly two hours.

Which is why i waited to see fury road until it came out on video, then was shocked that it was a movie first and a spectacle as a far second. the degree of difficulty to deliver meaning amidst sturm und drang is so high you have to really know how to carefully calibrate the machinery. "superman fucks lois lane in a bathtub" suggests snyder might have his priority just a tetch off

@NickPinkerton
It's incorrect to assume people had "worst fears" to confirm about Batman vs. Superman. I have never once had a thought about it, even now.

Oh fer FUCKS sake the omnipresent victory of pop culture and daily saturation of the Internet into all aspects of normal daily life is like a coupla decades old by this point, do we still need performative gestures of personal/tribal superiority or mouthing shibboleths that are nothing but I Don't Even OWN a Television?

Little boy on the subway:
'Mom mom, I just saw Batman and Superman!' (A poster)
'Okay'
'But they look really angry?'
'Yes, the title means that they will be fighting'
'... but.... then which one of them is the enemy?'
'Well who do you think?'
'...'
'Do you think superman is the enemy?'
'No! He can't be! He's wearing blue!'

He is also wearing red, though <mind blown>

http://www.theonion.com/article/batman-v-superman-promotion-urges-filmgoers-just-g-52623

Dawn of Justice is still a colossus, the stuff that DC Comics dreams are made of for that kid in all of us who yearns to see Batman and Superman suit up and go in for the kill. Suck on that, Marvel. After this, can Justice League v The Avengers be far behind?

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/reviews/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-20160322

how does peter travers sleep at night?*

*answer: on pillows stuffed with major-studio promotional materials.

made of for that kid in all of us who yearns to see Batman and Superman suit up and go in for the kill

even as a kid reading comics in the xtreme-to-the-maxxxxx early 90s that was literally the last thing i wanted to see ether of them do

michael phillips: "The movie does not kid. It takes the mournful death knells of the Christopher Nolan “Batman” trilogy and cranks up the volume, while ignoring any of the visual strengths and moral provocations found in Nolan’s best work."

I feel like there's some kind of collective brainwashing that has convinced otherwise intelligent people that there are "visual strengths" and (more dubiously) "moral provocations" to be found in the Nolan Batman movies, which strike me as thoroughly routine pieces of work. of course, a lot of things look pretty good in comparison to the work of zack snyder.

the praise for heath ledger also mystifies me.

https://twitter.com/nickpinkerton/status/690347619302928384

(he's being sarcastic btw)

Heath ledger was the only good thing about any of those nolan batmovies

i get the feeling a lot of critics are just sick to death of superheroes and this movie just happens to come along at the right moment for the big kicking.

Wow I never thought I'd see a Supes movie that made me pine for Superman 4 but this was it

This was one of the worst piles of garbage ever. Interestingly enough only a fraction of the crowd cheered at the end.

Superman is basically a narcissistic dimwit who along with Batman is comically bad at his job.

xxp Cillian Murphy was pretty good!

Lex Luthor ...I have no idea what Eisenberg was doing.

they should bring back Nuclear Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mor3k9UVQe4

Suck on that, Marvel. After this, can Justice League v The Avengers be far behind?

lol Travers. i mean this shit will make money but i don't think anybody at Marvel is doing much more than giggling at that notion.

this shit was about as fun as watching live coverage of The Tortoise vs The Hare from the perspective of the Tortoise

the reason Bat gives for wanting to turn Superman's head into a tetherball is puzzling and makes no sense either. like it sounded like something that Dirty Harry woulda said.

I saw someone compare this to Showgirls.

wait then I would love it?

the Superman fucking Lois in the tub scene is hilarious though. a classic example of Supes misreading the room, assessing Lois's emotionally raw recollection of being taken hostage and a bunch of civilians dying, while ruminating on whether their relationship was appropriate, and interpreting that to mean "dogg I wanna get fucked, now"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwXfv25xJUw&feature=player_embedded

I was expecting more of a trainwreck. This was just normal shitty blockbuster bad...which might be worse in a way. No fun freeze puns to latch onto. Just a lot of scowling and CGI turd golems.

I like this also, getting into the mythologies and theologies that the DC characters have but that the filmmakers have clearly no idea what to do with, or even how to present:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/24/batman-v-superman-a-muddled-myth

Then again, once can’t be surprised when the filmmakers’ take on the DC mythology is less like an extrapolation of meaning, and more like a greatest hits album where every track is bad, or worse yet, a skit.

Everything in that article is otm. Particularly Superman's obsession with his public perception. The dude basically demonizes Batman simply as a means of transferring his own guilt.

Even after a key failing of Supes that results in civilian deaths his lament is more his personal failure than any sorrow over lost lives.

Seeing my FB feed full of normally astute friends who nitpicked the fuck out of other superior films and loved this is depressing, though seeing one of my neediest besties and his lovely wife call this shit out made me smile.

Whoa what an autocorrect - nerdiest not "neediest"

kingfish, re performative gestures against juvenile cultural hegemony:

change your pajamas

Chucks Kryptonite (or whatev the fuck that fake metal is called) @ this thread.

I don't even OWN pajamas

Hey now, I haven't worn pajamas since getting a Fallout 4 fleece jumpsuit/onesie for Xmas. Shit is so supremely comfortable I'm getting far more use out of it than I did the game it was licensed from. The extended PacNW winter this year means I'm wearing it longer.

8) That even holy of holies Neal deGrasse Tyson has his price.

9) That Soledad O’Brien is dead. She just has to be.

10) That Jeremy Irons has finally achieved Full Karloff.

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2016/03/ten-things-i-learned-watching-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice.html

http://jezebel.com/ben-affleck-looks-so-sad-next-to-all-these-bad-reviews-1767059510

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mGv5IGM2--/vbkuoshjnkjrwntmojjl.jpg

oh my god you aren't kidding

http://store.bethsoft.com/vault-111-fleece-jumpsuit.html

omg guys this movie is fantastic

nah jk it's a hateful, joyless, nonsensical bucket of shit

the whole of the third act could have been avoided if batman was just a bit more diligent about picking up after himself

reading reviews of this one is making me glad i didn't even bother with the first.