I'm not sure how you can sign an order requiring a drone to vaporize an American citizen and his son and go downstairs to Michelle and the girls and watch "Modern Family" and not exhibit sociopathy. I guess guidance counselors would call it "compartmentalizing."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:29 (eight years ago) link
Protip: If someone is running for president, they are probably a sociopath.
― Going To Town On Aunt May's Mezze Platter (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:33 (eight years ago) link
yep
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:33 (eight years ago) link
yall need to hang out with real sociopaths more
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:56 (eight years ago) link
but I follow Obama on Twitter.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:57 (eight years ago) link
what's the diagnosis for vaporizing foreigners?
― ogmor, Monday, 14 March 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link
If being a sociopath means being willing to authorize someone's death, then all presidents have been and will be sociopaths, since that's part of the job description.
― o. nate, Monday, 14 March 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link
Almost as if they commanded an army or something
― Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 March 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link
i share most ppl's discomfort with the idea of drones but i think it's unfair to suggest that obama's just using them because they exist; he's responding to the continued existence of al-qaeda and related groups. you can argue that the negatives of using drones outweigh the benefits or that we shouldn't do anything that kills civilians no matter what or that the killings are creating more terrorists than they get rid of (all of which are good points), but if any leader responsible for signing orders that kill ppl is a sociopath then lincoln and FDR are presumably right down there with obama.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 14 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
surely this belongs in the what is sociopathy and is barack obama a sociopath thread, which i am not making up
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Monday, 14 March 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link
I think so. It's a description, not criticism.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
sxpost
http://i.imgur.com/pIdOAV3.jpg
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
Aslan!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
i don't think obama is a sociopath any more than i am a sociopath for using an iphone created with lithium strip mined from bolivia. everyone compartmentalizes.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link
you should've seen how I tore into my bag of organic sweet potato chips over lunch today!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
Curious if any of you read the NYT Sunday Mag piece on an Arizona Trump rally, which had a near-transcript of a stump fiction he tells ("The Bullet," NYT author called it), about General Pershing executing Muslims in the Philippines with bullets soaked in pig guts. Had a very fascist demagogue vibe, even for DT.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
Thread of What Is Fascism And Is Donald Trump A Fascist
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/19/trumps-putin-fantasy/http://www.salon.com/2016/04/19/donald_trumps_avenging_angels_how_the_orange_haired_monster_has_rewritten_the_history_of_american_conservatism/
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link
my intro to the word fascist was when my ill-tempered spoiled nerd friend called his mom one for not driving him to a magic the gathering tournament when we were 11
― flopson, Thursday, 24 December 2015 16:45 (3 months ago)
http://i.imgur.com/mfoTccj.jpg
― сверх (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:25 (eight years ago) link
for a second i read that where the infowars repost was going to end up being about the results of an M:TG tournament
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link
flopson that is the greatest thing
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
There he goes! To the center!
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yzwq7X8yE
Astounding 2011 Prophecy!!! 'Donald Trump Chosen to Lead America'
"Some pious people say casino owner Donald Trump is not a godly man. Should we, however, ask: Is Donald Trump God’s man? Retired firefighter Mark Taylor claims the Lord has chosen Mr. Trump to pull America back from the cliff. Rick Wiles interviews Mark about his amazing 2011 prophecy that Donald Trump has been marked by God to lead America."
― larry appleton, Sunday, 8 May 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/nv4C4QH.jpg
I thought this had to be satire, but a part of me wanted it to be real, so I checked out the guy's description for his Youtube channel:
http://i.imgur.com/UqrEXr3.jpg
If these people are part of Trump's coalition, I sure as hell hope he doesn't win. I don't want to know what an emboldened version of this guy looks like.
― larry appleton, Sunday, 8 May 2016 01:23 (eight years ago) link
That video is amazing. And the comments are even better.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 8 May 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link
Mussolini never had a pen
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/731882367493808128
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 May 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link
With a speech balloon from Tiny Elvis, apparently
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Monday, 16 May 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link
Greil Marcus, on whether DT is a fascist:
I think it’s less a matter of policy—though mass deportations would require suspension or abrogation of civil liberties and the affirmation of or acquiescence to rule by decree—than the encouragement of violence by supporters against opponents that suggests an acting out of Mussolinism. On a national scale with executive resources that would be fascist. Read Philip Roth’s The Plot Against America, but remember that Sanders supporters have lately tapped into the same strain and their candidate has responded with a condemnation of violence that translates as “Go for it.”
https://greilmarcus.net/ask-greil/
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link
idiot
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
Marcus with the moral equivalency.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link
so fascism is a latent impulse w/in the populace that can be evoked and actualized by authoritarian leaders (and would-be leaders) w/ who frame nationalism as a narrative of heroic redemption in a moment of terrible crisis.* so the trump question need only be, "is he an enabler?" does he give his supporters an opportunity to express the fascist impulse?
* as of this post, i mean
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link
I wonder if this question hinges on whether you take fascism to be a distinctive political (even "rational") ideology or more like an ever present human instinct to be kept in check through civilization, sublimation, etc.
― ryan, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link
I feel like the whole 'GET 'EM OUTTA HERE' aspect of trump rallies is totally fascist. I hadn't seen it in a long time but I got to see it today during his carny barking tour stop in Anaheim.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/714189569793646597
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link
the "i alone" thing is pretty fascist. also the fact that his platform is always changing, which means the campaign is about voters placing their faith in him rather than concrete proposals.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:19 (eight years ago) link
his very clownishness evinces a disdain for parliamentary procedure.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:21 (eight years ago) link
Third question itt is what does it matterFourth might be should usa ilx be so fixated on possible fascist d trumpFifth prob could be could my hands be doing something less wringy and more beneficial like making a nice sandwich or playing the lute or holding the pages of a fine book or hitching a ride to a carefree place in which i could more productively and less frettishly pass the interminable fucking delay between this sorry shitheap of a process and actually casting my vote
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link
This site is dying for want of a less stupid topic tbh
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:31 (eight years ago) link
Sad!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:33 (eight years ago) link
:-(
I am appealing to u wonderful, intelligent and capable people to just not do this anymore
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link
"topics are stupid, site dying, i alone can solve"
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link
I wish that last were true, but im clearly begging for a community effort here
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:38 (eight years ago) link
i agree with deems, actually, but i still feel drawn to worrying about stuff i can't control.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link
We'll have to get you all into watching the euros
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link
can i recommend https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=brexit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=when+is+the+brexit coming up v soon
― Mordy, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 23:50 (eight years ago) link
u don't have to read the bad thread, deems
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 May 2016 06:43 (eight years ago) link
do you play much lute deems?
― ogmor, Thursday, 26 May 2016 07:35 (eight years ago) link
lol @ liberal voice of complacency
― So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:10 (eight years ago) link
This may have already been covered but I think that fascism is generally defined more by what it's against than what it's for. Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were all about making their countries great again by being anti-capitalist, anti-Marxist and anti-all the minority groups. Trump seems to be going down this path by being against big corporations, the government and immigrants but being rather vague about how exactly he would achieve his goals
― paolo, Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:14 (eight years ago) link