Sadly this got good reviews in Washington DC papers last year, so the run got extended, and then they brought it back again this year.
The airhead Christian blonde girlfriend of another character in the play is formulaic as well
― curmudgeon, Friday, 11 March 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link
it sounds like the playwright ends up shipping Daphna out to Israel in the end. if that's his hope for getting rid of all the annoying hung-up on being jewish jews, i think he's setting himself up for disappointment
― Mordy, Friday, 11 March 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
I've always liked Jewish women though, to the extent you can generalizingly "like" any entire group of wome
i'd say that this extent is... no extent.
i have a lot of awful overentitled jewish girls in my classes, and lots of smart, sharp jewish girls too. there are definitely "types" within the overall group, but to characterize it beyond that, i dunno. weird.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 11 March 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link
saw it earlier this week I thought it was a very very bad play like an average episode of a bad sitcom actually left about a little after halfway through which I don't think I've ever done before
― conrad, Friday, 11 March 2016 23:21 (eight years ago) link
disappointed there have not been any '"Bad Jews", Bad!' headlines about this tbh
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 March 2016 23:23 (eight years ago) link
I kinda enjoyed Bad Jews but more as a light Saturday matinee entertainment and not some tour de force of theater
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 12 March 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link
Somehow it only dawned on me for the first time this year that Achashverosh was a real fucking imbecile of a king.
― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Thursday, 24 March 2016 04:24 (eight years ago) link
Just a complete putz basically.
― petulant dick master (silby), Thursday, 24 March 2016 04:59 (eight years ago) link
Drunken, fickle, easy to manipulate, no discernible policies or values other than partying, and misogynist too
― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Thursday, 24 March 2016 12:17 (eight years ago) link
Hamentashen are tasty
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:11 (eight years ago) link
in addition to executing his wife for refusing to appear naked in front of his friends there's a midrash that the entire party the opens the megillah was really just an excuse to use the temple vessels that had been looted from jerusalem
― Mordy, Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link
Wow.
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Some grocery stores around here have been displaying Passover food now, because they just assume that since Easter is Sunday, Passover must be right now too. Wonder if they will realize they have to leave it up through the end of April? Or will they remove it Monday?
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:15 (eight years ago) link
I find that grocery stores that bother carrying any Passover stuff around here carry it year-round, as if someone is going to buy matzo in July.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link
The thing is, there are totally non-Jews out there who eat matzo when they don't have to. IDGI but go explain the goyim
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link
Matzah available year round is nice for when I find myself with the urge to make matzah brei
― petulant dick master (silby), Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:46 (eight years ago) link
Sometimes I have seen "Not Kosher for Passover Matzah" year-round and yes I guess there are Goyim who go for that
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
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i was wondering about that, too. local grocer put the passover food out two weeks ago! I did a double take and thought perhaps i had forgotten the date. (didn't stop me from bringing some macaroons home, though.)
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 24 March 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link
guys i find the ivanka phenomenon so confusing + i have so many conflicting thoughts on it and what it means about america and about the jews (and what it means that trump is using classical fascist imagery about birth + fertility when speaking about jewish grandchildren) but atm i just want to say that she has some v cute kids:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDUW0QhikCD/?taken-by=ivankatrump&hl=en
― Mordy, Friday, 25 March 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link
tell us more about the classic fascist imagery, think I missed this
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 25 March 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link
well, just in his speech to aipac he made some comment about how ivanka is going to have her jewish baby very soon and this kind of political elision between the personal birth/fertility as a stand-in for political national health has a tradition. this is in addition to the many times that trump has used his own health + fertility as a stand-in for a kind of nationalist power (i saw a lot of speculation that this was the dog whistle behind him talking about the size of his genitalia). maybe i'm reading too much into it but talking about babies + birth in political speech reminds me a lot of hitlerian propaganda such as
http://www.crestock.com/uploads/blog/2008/propagandaposters_de/20.jpg
― Mordy, Friday, 25 March 2016 15:58 (eight years ago) link
this is a big genre btw i'm not just picking + choosing one poster
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b7/83/f7/b783f79bd5b14685510ed21cdb4092d4.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/13/a0/17/13a017609f1de94c6d4d2845da397d21.jpg
http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/womensmagazine.jpg
― Mordy, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:00 (eight years ago) link
I doubt Trump's even aware of that but his AIPAC audience probably was and it was definitely a gross moment
― Οὖτις, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:03 (eight years ago) link
i don't think trump needs to be aware of it to basically embody much the same ideology
in fact being aware of it would be a hindrance
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link
I like the idea of Trump independently stumbling upon Nazi imagery and theories and conspiracies. Allows him plausible denial while at the same time allowing him to take advantage of it. Kind of like when Billy Joel was claiming to have composed something that turned out to be identical to some Mozart piece. " I don't know anything about Mozart, and I have never heard that piece, but how about that, aren't I good?"
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 March 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
isn't that standard operating procedure for Trump (cf David Duke etc.)?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 25 March 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link
Pretty much. What I'm saying is that maybe he really has no idea! Maybe all authoritarian neo fascists eventually find their way to the same (er) solutions.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 March 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link
i was surprised to learn this:
"Consider this question: how does the relationship between Israel and the Australian, Canadian, or British Jewish community differ from that of Israel and the American Jewish community? If one seeks an answer that can be quantified, note that, even taking into account the effect of the Birthright program—which to date has sent 400,000 young American Jews on trips to Israel—it is still the case that only about 40 percent of American Jews have bothered to visit the country at all. Without Birthright, that proportion would shrink to a third. By contrast, approximately 70 percent of Canadian Jews have made the trip at least once, as have 80 percent of Australian Jews and an estimated 95 percent of British Jews. Beyond the Anglosphere, 70 percent of French Jews have visited Israel, as have 70 percent of Mexican Jews and more than half of Argentinian Jews."
― Mordy, Monday, 4 April 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link
could this be perhaps partly due to americans just not being big foreign travelers in general? i.e. the average American has only been to three countries outside the u.s. and almost a third have never left the states?
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 4 April 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link
maybe there's something to that - it's very surprising to see mexico + canada at 70% and the US at 30% less.
― Mordy, Monday, 4 April 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
big lolz @ http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/kasich-meets-talmudic-scholars-explains-bible.html
― Mordy, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link
i liked this lil riff on it
https://twitter.com/dwdavison9318/status/720271473198428160
― goole, Thursday, 14 April 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link
oh hey that reminds me - anyone got a decent recipe for matzo ball soup? I've tried a couple but each time the matzo balls turned out way heavier/harder than they should be. (My familial elders is no help in this regard, as they are all terrible at cooking)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 April 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
ygm i sent u a recipe
― Mordy, Thursday, 14 April 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link
Seltzer is an essential ingredient if you want to avoid golf balls.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 April 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link
aha!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 April 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link
this probably belongs on a few different threads but why not here?:
http://patijinich.com/recipe/post_1/
good stuff IMO
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 15 April 2016 05:56 (eight years ago) link
This is probably a question best for Mordy, but has anyone written a good theological defense/explanation etc. of strict observance of all of the mitzvoth without belief in God? And conversely, what are the best defenses of Reform-type Judaism from a theological perspective (i.e. not merely justifying it using secular terms).
― JWoww Gilberto (man alive), Thursday, 21 April 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link
What you probably want is an argument from historical revelation (that as our understanding of morality develops so should our practice). This is a better answer for justifying Reform-type Judaism (which makes most sense in a sociohistorical context imo) but not for strict observance without belief in G-d. Essentially though if you accept this historical based revelation than you can believe in the Torah even while believing that it was a changing document. Can also be a nice way to square parts of the Torah you don't like with the divinity of the Torah as a whole -- that our current level of revelation demonstrates that we can't understand, say, Leviticus, the same way it was understood in 1000BC. That it wouldn't even be an appropriate way of practicing the Torah. You can also fold in development of the oral Torah into this. Every since taking Brill's Revelation course at YU (looks like the syllabus is here: http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/713482/rabbi-alan-brill/revelation-materials-unit-i-five-models-of-dulles-and-some-21st-century-questions-/) I can't help but think of these models in terms of their use - what questions they're coming to answer, or problems they're coming to address. That's why I think ultimately Reform is best understood as a response to acculturation into German Protestant culture and less as a stable theological theory. nb that Heschel's Torah from Heaven revelation model answers a lot of these same questions but keeps more of the divine revelation at Mount Sinai (which historical revelation only just barely preserves).
Re the other question I don't have a good answer (tho possibly you could make one from cultural preservation, or communal fidelity) but I did hear stories about Yeshiva students who were leaving their schools en masse during the high point of the Haskalah movement and there's a story I've heard that in Slabotke Yeshiva bochurim would smoke on Shabbos while learning gemara bc learning gemara was just too geshmak. This isn't really the same thing but it kinda gets to the same idea that maybe there are reasons to participate in these traditions despite not signing on to much of the theological underpinning it.
― Mordy, Thursday, 21 April 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link
I'm not Jewish. This is the Jewish-related thread I always see--maybe there's a better one...Flipping through DVDs at the flea market this morning, the guy beside me, in his 60s, holds up the old musical Till the Clouds Roll By.
"Isn't 'till' misspelled there?""No, that's right--you can spell it 'till' or ''til.'""Doesn't that 'till' mean moneybox?""It means both.""Okay...It's Hollywood, it's Jews, and they're well educated."
And then I'm almost positive he said "Thanks, Ben"--maybe it was "Thanks, then," but I don't think so. Not my name, and, well, our evolving friendship hadn't really gotten to the exchanging-names stage yet.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 April 2016 17:15 (eight years ago) link
Reminds me of a group trip I took as part of a tour group to a Casablanca, Morocco market where one bargains for the price and someone saying to me later--"I hate that Jewing down stuff"
― curmudgeon, Monday, 25 April 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link
in case anyone was wondering the magic key to fluffy matzah balls is seltzer water and whipped egg whites
― Οὖτις, Monday, 25 April 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link
Someone wrote a letter to the editor complaining about a picture printed in the newspaper a few days ago of local Hasidic Jews burning chametz. "The bread should have been composted."
― tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 14:24 (eight years ago) link
That reminds me a little of the people who clucked at the Hassidic Jews whose home burned down because of a Shabbos hot plate malfunction. Any excuse to vent your discomfort with the other.
― JWoww Gilberto (man alive), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link
some very interesting stuff in here about the intersection between halacha and labor:https://kavvanah.wordpress.com/2016/05/24/benjamin-brown-on-halakhic-labor-law-statist-or-democratic/
― Mordy, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 00:49 (eight years ago) link
lipa watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hsG8TYdtg0
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link
it's unbeLIPAble
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 23 June 2016 14:41 (eight years ago) link
Hey Jews! I have a new job with my local Jewish Social Services!!! I'm super happy, it is a fantastic org with about a 50/50 mix of Jews/non-Jews both on the staff and client side.
Double bonus: I get both the usual federal holidays AND the Jewish holidays off! 20 paid holidays, holy shit.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 21 August 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
Yay quincie! Mazel tov.
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Sunday, 21 August 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link
Thank you. The folks who interviewed me liked that I talked about tzedakah and tikkun olam in my cover letter, ha!
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 21 August 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link
I hadn't really ever articulated it before my interview, but I found myself noting that my Jewish studies greatly influenced my decision to become a mid-life social worker. They really did.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 21 August 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link