Who Grilled Marilyn?
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:00 (ten years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdR0hGzWAAEHX1N.jpg
― mookieproof, Friday, 11 March 2016 15:53 (ten years ago)
i'm not an expert but
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:53 (ten years ago)
The Hulk would probably draw a lot of flags
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:26 (ten years ago)
The Hulk would however do notably far less than steroids than the _other_ Hulk gulped down to compete in professional sports.
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Friday, 11 March 2016 18:08 (ten years ago)
Like Nancy Reagan and her husband's Alzheimer's, the right cares about "thuggish" behavior when it affects their own:
It is ludicrous to argue that, because the hard Left is primarily responsible for the outbreak of chaos and violence that caused Donald Trump’s Chicago rally to be canceled last night, it is wrong to condemn the thuggery Trump often encourages at his appearances.
Trump has encouraged physical battery at his campaign events, even telling supporters he’d pay their legal fees if they get arrested for assaulting dissenters. (See, e.g., Iowa event: ”So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of ‘em, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. I promise”; see also Las Vegas event: regarding an unruly protester removed by security, Trump tells crowd, “I’d like to punch him in the face. He’s smiling, having a good time.”) Trump has continued to fan these flames even after it has become obvious that some of his supporters are acting on the invitation to resort to violence. Incitement to violence is a crime; incitement to violence at a large rally is incitement to riot — a crime that can get people badly injured or even killed.
And it’s about more than incitement. As David has been chronicling, Trump’s top campaign guy, Corey Lewandowski, has been credibly accused of manhandling Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields. In case you haven’t noticed, one of the main tactics that has transformed Turkey, before our very eyes, from a reasonably democratic society into an authoritarian Islamist state is Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s green-light to his underlings to intimidate, assault, shut down, imprison, and trump up prosecutions against members of the press. Trump is not a conservative, so it is perhaps unknown to him that media hostility is something conservatives in a free society learn to deal with — even to become more effective communicators because of. What should really frighten people is that Breitbart is Trump-friendly media. It is unlikely that, at the time of the alleged assault, Mr. Lewandowski even knew for whom Ms. Fields worked … but it is highly likely that he knew she was a reporter. (And even if he didn’t, campaign officials don’t get to rough up non-media rally attendees, either.)
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 March 2016 03:05 (ten years ago)
noted defender of the powerless Andrew McCarthy
jfc
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 13 March 2016 12:55 (ten years ago)
“It is immoral because it perpetuates a lie: that the white working class that finds itself attracted to Trump has been victimized by outside forces,” the NR roving correspondent writes. “[N]obody did this to them. They failed themselves.”“If you spend time in hardscrabble, white upstate New York, or eastern Kentucky, or my own native West Texas, and you take an honest look at the welfare dependency, the drug and alcohol addiction, the family anarchy—which is to say, the whelping of human children with all the respect and wisdom of a stray dog—you will come to an awful realization. It wasn’t Beijing. It wasn’t even Washington, as bad as Washington can be. It wasn’t immigrants from Mexico, excessive and problematic as our current immigration levels are. It wasn’t any of that.”“The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible,” the conservative writer says. “The white American under-class is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin. What they need isn’t analgesics, literal or political. They need real opportunity, which means that they need real change, which means that they need U-Haul. If you want to live, get out of Garbutt [a blue-collar town in New York].”
“If you spend time in hardscrabble, white upstate New York, or eastern Kentucky, or my own native West Texas, and you take an honest look at the welfare dependency, the drug and alcohol addiction, the family anarchy—which is to say, the whelping of human children with all the respect and wisdom of a stray dog—you will come to an awful realization. It wasn’t Beijing. It wasn’t even Washington, as bad as Washington can be. It wasn’t immigrants from Mexico, excessive and problematic as our current immigration levels are. It wasn’t any of that.”
“The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible,” the conservative writer says. “The white American under-class is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin. What they need isn’t analgesics, literal or political. They need real opportunity, which means that they need real change, which means that they need U-Haul. If you want to live, get out of Garbutt [a blue-collar town in New York].”
National Review Writer: Working-Class Communities ‘Deserve To Die’
― mookieproof, Monday, 14 March 2016 01:36 (ten years ago)
beneath that post is a YouTube clip to something called "Leaders with Ginni Thomas."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2016 01:38 (ten years ago)
fans of far right weirdness: that Wm.son article is the first appearance of "moldbug" in the pages of NRO.
― goole, Monday, 14 March 2016 14:07 (ten years ago)
What a ghoul Kevin Williamson is. Hopefully that article will go viral and show conservative whites how absurd it looks to blame individuals for being victimized by global economic forces. Apparently they didn't notice when minorities were the targets of this philosophy
― Treeship, Monday, 14 March 2016 15:01 (ten years ago)
They need real opportunity, which means that they need real change, which means that they need U-Haul.
i read an economist article the other day that glowed with pride in america for "repurposing" its "abandoned rust-belt cities" for "knowledge workers"
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Monday, 14 March 2016 15:20 (ten years ago)
sorry I loled
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2016 15:21 (ten years ago)
The white American under-class is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles.
are we not calling it "conservatism" anymore
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Monday, 14 March 2016 15:22 (ten years ago)
it is ironic that those various Sodom and Gomorrah small towns represent, in tandem with the gerrymandering that sought to cleave them into cohesive districts, the base of the gop controlled Congress now and for the foreseeable future. the party platform doesn't resonate outside these enclaves of Real America nearly as significantly as it does within them. so, you know, i hope the author enjoys his bread heavily buttered
― art, Monday, 14 March 2016 15:24 (ten years ago)
they've stopped buttering it for five minutes, is why he's in a snit.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Monday, 14 March 2016 15:24 (ten years ago)
the opiate dependency is just enough to other the small town from the big town gop voter
Xp
― art, Monday, 14 March 2016 15:25 (ten years ago)
Can we get Kevin Williamson and Thomas Frank a job co-hosting a cable show, then lock the studio doors and walk away until the air runs out?
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 14 March 2016 15:26 (ten years ago)
it is ironic that those various Sodom and Gomorrah small towns represent, in tandem with the gerrymandering that sought to cleave them into cohesive districts, the base of the gop controlled Congress now and for the foreseeable future.
The beating heart of the GOP isn't in dead mill towns in upstate New York, it's in the wealthy white suburbs of Phoenix, Houston, St. Louis, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. Big wide roads, big cheap houses, Panera Bread. That's what somebody like Kevin Williamson sees as the America people should aspire to live in.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 14 March 2016 15:29 (ten years ago)
this new republican establishment strategy of jettisoning their entire white working class base of support will surely pay dividends no doubt. i mean it's not like poor white ppl were the last constituency standing between them and the void.
― Mordy, Monday, 14 March 2016 15:40 (ten years ago)
So a colleague of Willamson's has double-down.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/432796/working-class-whites-have-moral-responsibilities-defense-kevin-williamson
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:11 (ten years ago)
omg the beating heart of nro at last:
Yet millions of Americans aren’t doing their best. Indeed, they’re barely trying.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:13 (ten years ago)
dlh, my friend, to you I leave the honorable task of reading and quoting the comments
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:15 (ten years ago)
i made it three in
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:16 (ten years ago)
you're barely trying
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:18 (ten years ago)
that u-haul line (repeated!) really is gross honestly. all this scolding and then what's the one way they can become good, virtuous people? transform themselves into just a few more pieces of capital trash tumbling across borders to the grave. fascism is basically kevin williamson's fault.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:18 (ten years ago)
xp lol
reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU_pDM1N7i0
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:20 (ten years ago)
Kevin D. Williamson @KevinNR 3m3 minutes ago
Kevin D. Williamson Retweeted Andyroo
On the contrary. I'm not worried about them coming for my job; they're worried about me coming for theirs.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:23 (ten years ago)
always knew he was a robot
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:25 (ten years ago)
Washington Monthly had several good posts about Williamson over the past couple days.
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:37 (ten years ago)
they're getting closer, but they never quite get there (because the free market is by definition perfect)
should we kill all the addicts and adulterers as economic and moral zeroes? should the franchise be limited by SAT score? spell it out, motherfucker
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:39 (ten years ago)
He came to my attention when he got the history of the two-party system's reckoning with civil rights wrong.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:41 (ten years ago)
The heartlessness is just astounding.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:44 (ten years ago)
It's the natural conclusion of conservatism - if there can't be social reasons for the results, the ground must be cursed!
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 09:34 (ten years ago)
He's got answers for you people:
Funny thing about my most recent magazine piece on the politics of white poverty, which has brought out a great deal of emotional incontinence from the usual bladders: It is, in fact, about half of the original piece, the other half being autobiographical material on my own experience with that world and its pathologies. We cut those parts, and I think that was probably the right thing to do: The least interesting thing about the piece is the author. I note that none of the critics have pointed to anything in the piece that is incorrect; the criticism has been almost exclusively variations on, “I don’t like you for having written that.”
The piece in question is part of an ongoing discussion between Michael Brendan Dougherty and me. (Many of the critics have failed to notice that the piece’s fictional unemployed disability-fraud artist from Garbutt, N.Y., is Dougherty’s literary invention, not mine.) And I may have made the same error as many of my critics: Dougherty says he agrees with much of the piece, but disputes my characterization of his attitude toward the conservative movement and its organs as “bitter.” That’s fair enough. He is, after all, the leading expert on the state of his own mind. I regret the mischaracterization.
Weird thing: When all those tedious po-mo literary-criticism professors I encountered in college insisted “the author is a fiction,” I generally rolled my eyes. Turns out they were partly right, though not in the way they had imagined.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/432828/what-critics-get-wrong-about-white-poverty
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:17 (ten years ago)
"When all those tedious po-mo literary-criticism professors I encountered in college insisted “the author is a fiction,” I generally rolled my eyes.
the courage he displays in the face of such adversity. he clearly has a finger on the struggles of the working class.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:27 (ten years ago)
guess what finger
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:31 (ten years ago)
i just tried to close the NRO tab and a box popped up:
Wait! Don’t Go Yet! Do you support NR’s endorsement of Ted Cruz?
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:34 (ten years ago)
Wait! Don't Go Yet! We didn't mean all of you!
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:35 (ten years ago)
VDH getting into position:
Take Trump’s worst, most repugnant rhetoric, and there will always pop up a parallel worse — and often from the lips of the heroes of those who are blasting Trump as singularly foul. He crudely brags of his past infidelities and sexual conquests — reminding us that he has an affinity with JFK and Bill Clinton (is it worse to boast or to lie about such sins?). Whether he would attempt to match either man’s sexual gymnastics while in the Oval Office is, I think, doubtful. Unfortunately, Trump was not the first politician to brag about the size of his genitalia. President Lyndon Johnson reportedly offered such jock talk often — as well as reportedly exposing himself to aides. Did LBJ’s sick obsessions turn liberals off the Great Society?
Unfortunately, Trump was not the first politician to brag about the size of his genitalia. President Lyndon Johnson reportedly offered such jock talk often — as well as reportedly exposing himself to aides. Did LBJ’s sick obsessions turn liberals off the Great Society?
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:01 (ten years ago)
forgot to include an ellipsis between grafs there
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:02 (ten years ago)
wait -- I thought libs were obsessed with the Great Society
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:02 (ten years ago)
they are, even though lbj shit w the door open
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:03 (ten years ago)
with his dick
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:03 (ten years ago)
johnson didn't talk about his dick during a campaign event that was broadcast nationally
― Treeship, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:15 (ten years ago)
even if he did it wouldn't nullify my belief that there are things that can be done, on the federal level, to address poverty. kinda unrelated
gives new meaning to trickle down economics
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:28 (ten years ago)
jeet heer connects williamsonwhitetrashgate to the wfb legacy
https://newrepublic.com/article/131583/national-reviews-revolt-masses
― Mr. Magic's Rap Attack (m coleman), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 12:34 (ten years ago)