itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

if only there was a modern context for people to understand the plight of alien refugees maybe you could write a movie around that

I was trying to think of what it was that was bothering me about bizarro's take and then I realized it was the existence of Injustice: Gods Among Us (which really doesn't invalidate the point being made)

you could argue though that the movies are clearly an alternate what-if universe as compared to the comic book continuity and that the same leeway re: character interpretation should be granted but I didn't enjoy Man of Steel enough to champion that position

xp Superman sympathizing with immigrants? As a True American nobody's gonna buy that!

I am OK with Superman getting rid of his pussy no-killing code. I'm not OK with him Michael Baying an entire city.

technically that was Michael Shannon's fault

I love Michael Shannon but dear God was he a horrible Zod

i am gonna see this opening night but I'm afraid I might accidentally like it.

still tho the entire trailer = a city getting pancaked over stilted dialogue so i'm prolly ok

All these dark takes on a Superman character(e.g. Irredeemable/Uncorruptable/the dad in Invincible) only work because you have Superman to bounce off of. You can't do this take with Superman himself being the only God-level character in your universe. Even Superman III had two versions which could fight.

I feel like Snyder's movies are based on a 90s view where you've read all the 80s takes on how superhero morality would play out and instead of using that as a basis for commentary, you stick with the grim and gritty. Even if Moore and Miller had some troublesome aspects in their narratives about how these characters would deal with real life death/destruction, the point was that the death/destruction was real and had consequences.

The message wasn't "superheroes act without consequences"

Speaking of "superhero morality":

Given all your involvements, do you have time to develop anything outside of this?

ZACK We have The Last Photograph that I've been working on for a long time. It's a small, sort of weird project about a war photogra­pher in Afghanistan. I have been working on The Fountainhead. I've always felt like The Fountainhead was such a thesis on the creative process and what it is to create something. Warner Bros. owns [Ayn Rand’s] script and I’ve just been working on that a little bit.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/batman-v-superman-married-creative-874799

bwahahaha of course

god what a worthless human

sometimes people assume their popularity or notoriety is because their fingers are on the pulse of some deep vein in the zeitgeist

it's really hard to convince them it's not a vein but a bile duct

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2016/03/18/warner-brothers-destroyed-supermans-brand-for-their-new-franchise-will-it-pay-off/#6c56efa147d8

Interesting take on Forbes, looking at Superman from a branding perspective

god what a worthless human

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he really is profoundly stupid

i hope this new movie loses a fuckton of money

Speaking of profoundly stupid -- or maybe just venal

http://jezebel.com/henry-cavills-press-tour-for-batman-v-superman-has-been-1765323349

lol what a prick

imo he'd be ok if cast as a person you're supposed to actively dislike, which is my reaction when he's on screen

He looks perpetually peeved. Very Superman-esque.

I’m slightly wary of saying this, because it can be frowned upon, certainly by members of my community and people outside my community, but I’m not just doing this for the art. The money’s fantastic and that’s something which I deem — and again, it is frowned upon — very important.

if you're going to come out and say 'wheee i love money' to a reporter you should really have confidence in your dickheadery and not bother about prefacing it with some equivocating bullshit imo

supposedly this movie focuses on Batman's disillusionment with Superman cos of all the buildings destroyed and people killed in the Krypton invasion.

I hope the movie begins with him reading a paper titled the "Gotham Gazette", with comically large type, with a headline reading "165,000 dead in Metropolis, and the rest of the text being a bunch of random latin words in smaller type.

spinning newspaper would be even better

Based on the trailers, it'll have a bunch of Man of Steel footage doing that.

Yeah, he's right in the shit, scooping up armfuls of the meat that was once the populace of Metropolis.

first scene is ten minutes of metropolis public workers hosing down viscera from the streets.

pan left, superman is eating a bag of honey-roasted peanuts while taking selfies with teenage girls.

the thing about this movie that looks remotely alright it gal gadot

Still at the bar with those peanuts

xpost Yeah, seriously. I do have a little interest in the Wonder Woman movie (although I'm still waiting to see how they manage to fuck up what sounds like idea).

'like a good idea'

I'm sure they'll find away

they'll probably take the obvious route to fuck it up and hypersexualize her

you are reminding me of Scott Lobdell's take on Starfire now ;_;

they'll take the character back to her roots as an S&M fantasy

shuddering to think at what the Lasso of Truth *used* to be

Have you seen the Woman Woman pilot by the Ally McBeal creator, with Diana as a lawyer looking for a man in her life?

just booked tickets to see this on friday - psyched for the hatewatch

xp Woman Woman! All the powers of a woman!

Our local drive-in is opening their season this weekend with a double feature of this and Deadpool. My wife and I are going to go since it's both cheaper than a regular theater and exactly the venue this deserves.

you guys are to blame for Snyder's career fyi

Thank you, Zack Snyder, for giving me reason after reason to see this or any of your other fucking sadface movies:

‘Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice’ director Zack Snyder on why he wouldn't use Grant Gustin’s Flash

“I just don’t think it was a good fit,” says Snyder of bringing in Gustin’s verison of The Flash to “The Justice League,” which starts filming next month.

“I’m very strict with this universe and I just don’t see a version where...that (tone is) not our world.”

That world, which will be the basis for at least 10 movies over the next five years, has a tone that’s much darker, more brooding than the TV-versions of the DC superheroes.

Why do you think people want this mopey superhero shit, you fucking sadsack?

'reason after reason to NOT see this', natch

Flash is super-ridiculous but ultimately enjoyable. Unlike Snyder.

yeah i've been half watching dc's legends of tomorrow and it's garbage but it's much closer to ludicrous comics fun than the dc movies have been lately

I wouldn't argue that the DC shows are much more than garbage but they're enjoyable garbage. And, yes, fun. Even the grim n' gritty Arrow feels like a bubbly romp compared to Zack Snyder's tortured soul. But, sure, continue painting in nothing but shades of gray, dude. People are totally gonna be onboard for another half decade of this shit.

More Snyder weirdness:

The thing that’s kinda cool about the Batman suit (and) our Batman logo is that the dimension is the same as the Man of Steel logo, the bottom of the bat. So I said, “No, it’s cool. It’s okay. It’s mythologically okay.

Does this dude associate with other people? Kinda feels like he doesn't.

What hath the 90s wrought

On a related note, eBay pricing for those early Deadpool appearances I was gunna hawk has plummeted, except for New Mutants 98. I really need to get on this.

I don't understand why Warner Bros thinks this is they guy to handle several of their most valuable properties?

Why do you think people want this mopey superhero shit, you fucking sadsack?

the only real answer to this i can think of is basically down to nolan's dark knight taking a billion dollars at the box office. that led warners and snyder to believe that grafting the allegedly real-world, street-level aesthetic of the batman movies onto stories of alien superbeings, kings of underwater kingdoms, men capable of running at the speed of light and daughters of actual greek fucking gods is not in fact a totally stupid idea but a solid enough foundation on which to build an entire cinematic universe