it's about ethics in journalism reading
― Mordy, Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:30 (ten years ago)
Not comparing it to Klan, just brought it up as a counterproductive approach to a defense.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:33 (ten years ago)
It's not a perfect analogy, but it's better than assuming that not having a "pass" is enough to prevent people from assuming the worst and rolling with it.
― how's life, Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:40 (ten years ago)
Best part of the "four" comment is imagining how hard Gawker's legal team must gone in on Daulerio's asshole in its aftermath. Dude must barely be able to walk at present.
― Position Position, Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:42 (ten years ago)
uhhhhh
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:48 (ten years ago)
Lol
― Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:52 (ten years ago)
http://babysimpson.co.uk/gallery/frames/6/2f32/239.jpg
Gawker's legal dream team
― larry appleton, Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:56 (ten years ago)
from the NYT on Tuesday, straining as ever to preserve decorum
Later, when he found out that his shock-radio friend, known as Bubba the Love Sponge, had been responsible for filming the encounter,
initially I laughed and then realized well yeah who else is Hulk Hogan going to hang out with
― Mr. Magic's Rap Attack (m coleman), Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:21 (ten years ago)
― Mordy, Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:30 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what does this even mean? its about finding lots of people dumb for not getting context clues
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 11 March 2016 06:22 (ten years ago)
context clues? what kind of context, what kind of clues? like, this is a deposition, don't joke about sex crimes involving 4 year olds?
― the late great, Friday, 11 March 2016 06:25 (ten years ago)
im talking about people that didn't realize he was joking, who took it at face value that he literally was ok with child porn
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 11 March 2016 06:32 (ten years ago)
im not defending the guy, just annoyed at the level of reading comprehension
i know how you feel
― Mordy, Friday, 11 March 2016 13:56 (ten years ago)
good one!!
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 11 March 2016 14:16 (ten years ago)
I don't think people think he was serious. Joking about that is still gross, and reflects the site's self-congratulatory aren't we scandalous? amorality
― Treeship, Friday, 11 March 2016 14:24 (ten years ago)
When you are embroiled in a legal case that hinges explicitly on what salacious stuff you can or cannot publish, and the legal line between the two of them is so fine as to be practically invisible, it's such a terrible idea to joke about anything, really. Unless you're not serious about winning. What moron thinks a deposition is the right place to make a "joke" about sex tapes featuring children? Talk about "privilege." You're under oath, you're on the record - you don't fuck around. So, sure, context clues, etc., it was "obviously" a joke. But it does beg the question: where is the line and what line is the site unwilling to cross? You know, basically what the moron was asked. Because exactly, precisely, legally where that line is drawn is directly relevant to their defense. What a dummy.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 March 2016 14:41 (ten years ago)
Sad!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 11 March 2016 14:50 (ten years ago)
Hey, man, Gawker shouldn't have to constrain their id in the courtroom or anywhere else.
― Going To Town On Aunt May's Mezze Platter (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 March 2016 14:58 (ten years ago)
hahahahaha wait I was ignoring this and got some details wrong; I assumed dude said he wouldn't release a sex tape older than 4 years, not that the cutoff age for a sex tape participant that would make him withhold the tape was 4 years old, largely because what kind of moron makes that type of flip comment in a deposition?
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:28 (ten years ago)
a.j. daulerio, apparently
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:29 (ten years ago)
then again, he no longer works for gawker and might have been overselling the cynicism
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:31 (ten years ago)
overselling the cynicism the gawker story
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:32 (ten years ago)
soundtrack by Live
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:32 (ten years ago)
More like Megadeth.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 March 2016 15:34 (ten years ago)
what did he say exactly?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 11 March 2016 15:57 (ten years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/10/business/media/gawker-editors-testimony-stuns-courtroom-in-hulk-hogan-trial.html?_r=2
The former editor, Albert J. Daulerio, a defendant in an invasion-of-privacy lawsuit brought by the retired wrestler Hulk Hogan, was asked by the plaintiff’s lawyer where he drew the line when it came to posting videos of people having sex.“Can you imagine a situation where a celebrity sex tape would not be newsworthy?” asked the lawyer, Douglas E. Mirell.“If they were a child,” Mr. Daulerio replied.“Under what age?” the lawyer pressed.“Four.”
“Can you imagine a situation where a celebrity sex tape would not be newsworthy?” asked the lawyer, Douglas E. Mirell.
“If they were a child,” Mr. Daulerio replied.
“Under what age?” the lawyer pressed.
“Four.”
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:14 (ten years ago)
edgy stuff
― Treeship, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:14 (ten years ago)
dude should work with vice
― ulysses, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:15 (ten years ago)
w t f
― robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:24 (ten years ago)
― Treeship, Friday, March 11, 2016 8:24 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:30 (ten years ago)
I think "I'm so above the legal process my actions have put into motion" is a transparently stupid position to take most of the time. This particular instance reinforces my opinion.
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:33 (ten years ago)
Also, transcripts are not printed in a sarcasm font.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:34 (ten years ago)
If I understand things correctly, the tape of the deposition was replayed in the court. This doesn't change my opinion that that statement was incredibly stupid.
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:35 (ten years ago)
For sure, but the deposition is being reported in places like the above Times link. It's not like they print a disclaimer that says "LOL you had to be there" or something.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:36 (ten years ago)
― robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, March 11, 2016 10:30 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if you read twitter you will find that there are lots of people that took it seriously
nb im not defending it as a joke!
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:51 (ten years ago)
I guess the takeaway is maybe don't say anything in a deposition that you don't want other people to take literally?
― Going To Town On Aunt May's Mezze Platter (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:55 (ten years ago)
^^^sorta the first rule of depositions, really
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:56 (ten years ago)
ive seen enough Good Wife episodes to get knee-jerk defensive about ppl who use sarcasm in response to hostile questions asked during a deposition
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:57 (ten years ago)
lol yes the real-life experience of watching a TV show is def relevant here
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:04 (ten years ago)
i think gawker deserves any disingenuous straight-reading moral panic they get over this tbh
― Mordy, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:05 (ten years ago)
^^^^
I'm sure there are people here who have actual experience w depositions besides myself, being sarcastic basically signals contempt for the process/the law, maybe not the smartest tack to take
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:05 (ten years ago)
― Οὖτις, Friday, March 11, 2016 11:04 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol just as relevant as the usual ilx sanctimony
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:11 (ten years ago)
lol what the fuck are you talking about do u get paid by gawker per defensive comment itt
― Mordy, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:13 (ten years ago)
its funny how ilx went from the place where ppl were amoral assholes to me to the place where ppl are moralizing assholes to me
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:15 (ten years ago)
the important thing is, i am always wrong, now that we've established that lets get back to finger-wagging at a kid fucking joke
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:16 (ten years ago)
well for a real life analogue you can also look at the bieber deposition from a few years ago
― maura, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:16 (ten years ago)
let the record show that i have always tended toward being a moralizing scold, despite efforts to curb this tendency
― Treeship, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:16 (ten years ago)
no one forced you to defend a sarcastic joke during testimony about publishing underage sex tapes xxp
― Mordy, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:16 (ten years ago)
like what kind of person sees a joke [made under oath?] about pedophilia and decides the real problem is ppl taking it too seriously? (answer: someone looking to get paid)
― Mordy, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:17 (ten years ago)
tbrr deej, the thing that was most awful about that deposition was the entitlement. "oh, i shouldn't have to answer to anything. we make our own standards." it's just bullshit/antisocial
― Treeship, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:17 (ten years ago)