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is this sunday the 7th or sunday the 31st? I R not in USland on October 31st.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

by the way, what is this concert anyway?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Boo it's the 31st.

The concert is this one. My wife and I are singing in it.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

ah well, I'm sure you'll do fine without me.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

What was the perfect little neighborhood I wandered into after I left the public library en route to Hyatt but accidentally landed in an ubermanicured utopian village--is that Back Bay?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Either Back Bay or The South End, depending on which direction you walked (you don't happen to remember any street names?).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No, but then I turned in desperation to get out of the neverending suburbs (the only person around was a postman) and I ended up at Saks.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

You were in the South End. It's really gorgeous over there (and probably the area of town I'd most like to move into).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Dirty yuppie. (j/k)

It was really lovely, but almost fairy-tailish. It's super expensive to live there, I presume?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

OH YES. We had friends who lived in a 600 sq ft condo that they paid $350,000 for. 600 SQUARE FEET. If you want a decent amount of living space, you are EASILY looking at $600+K.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(Or, in rent terms, think at least $900+/person.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

$900/person is cheap!

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Not if you're living with 3 other people.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that I've attending school near it for the past three months, Downtown Crossing is my leading "grit" candidate.

― nader (nader), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha yeah!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I want more, not grit, but what it produces or is a product of - dynamism. It just seems so reified. I dunno, I'm probably being too down on it. Maybe its brisk familiarity made it lonely for a single explorer, whereas humid, strange Houston was a fun adventure. Maybe it was just allergies.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, I'm probably being too down on it.

NO YOU AREN'T.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston's a difficult city to appreciate in a few days (much less seven going on eight years).

Ultimately it's cities like Somerville and Cambridge and an area like the South End that give Boston any sort of dynamism (or character). Boston itself? Boston proper?

It's very vanilla.

Although I took a long look at the newer half of the Public Library today and I must say: that's some dope ass exterior design going on right there.

For Boston anyway...

― nader (nader), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how Tracer's post near the top of this thread has now fully justified itself:

First, Ned, it's spelt Carl Yastrzemski. As great as the Rooster was he is not by any stretch better than Manny, so 70s Boston loses in left field. But: Harvard Square hadn't become utterly uninteresting yet, Aerosmith didn't take showers yet... close call. But I'd still trade it all for Manny.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, Ghost of Dan Perry... i) good luck with your concert ii) are you interested in getting together next week to discuss Dr Who issues?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 31 October 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i) Thank you! ii) Sure! If you're interested, my wife is doing some ensemble work in a production of "Strike Up The Band" on Friday night and Sunday afternoon in Cambridge; I will be there Friday night for sure. (Saturday night we've committed to a dinner party.) Let me know how long you're in town and when you're available and we'll see what we ca work out (also where you'll be and what type of place you'd like to meet up; bar/restaurant/etc).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 31 October 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's all the grit?

roxbury dorchester mission hill jamaica plain etc and so on, son.
certainly not on the banks of the fucking charles river during the head of the charles. walk through jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville fo yo dynamism next time through

nader OTM boston itself=vanilla

south station= bums, random hookers, construction worker, creepy businesmen

― kephm, Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

walk through jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville fo yo dynamism next time through

what, the suburbs? pfft

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

somerville reprezentz, playa: 02143 in the hizous!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 31 October 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

what, the suburbs? pfft

jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville : boston :: brooklyn, the bronx, queens : nyc

― nader (nader), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

South End is gorgeous. Having all of the buildings made from red bricks surely helps though. You get a lot more for your rent money if you leave Boston proper though.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 1 November 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Only Somerville is a seperate municipality and can really be called a suburb; Jamaica Plain, Brighton and Allston are part of the city of Boston proper.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you know what I mean Dan... ;)

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I know! That was to Gabbneb, not you.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

FAP on Tuesday, Nov. 16?

― youn, Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

there are way way WAY more suburbs of boston than those.

Just the immediate ones like:
Waltham, Watertown, Somerville, Malden, Medford, Melrose, Everett, Chelsea, Revere, Winthrop, Lynn, Quincy, Braintree, NEWTON, Milton, Dedham, Needham

etc. etc. etc.

what was this discussion actually about? I didn't really read.

but Boston is certainly classic.

― trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

oh wait, someone was looking for grit

yeah, roxbury and all the other parts of town that border roxbury

that's quite enough grit for me

― trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

but the rooster wasn't carl yastrzemski and he didn't play left field. he played shortstop. so i'm a bit confused by this argument.

but in any case, '00s boston beats '70s boston at virtually every position on the baseball field, and not just because of what happened last week, but because they are in fact a better team. though i would kill to have luis tiant on the mound for boston next year.

as for aerosmith, though, anyone who would choose aerosmith now over aerosmith in '75 either needs therapy or plays for the yankees.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wrong: E.T.J.F.N. lives in Cambridge.

― youn, Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

so my second trip was much more likable than my first. perhaps the great weather the first day played a role. i still don't like back bay that much, and the Public Garden was nice but nothing special, but the North End - now that I like - and Waterfront Park at dusk - swoon. visited several of the civic/Freedom Trail sites, which were at least moderately interesting and some very nice-looking. Had chowder and beans at Durgin Park and a great meal at the bar of maybe the best restaurant in town, where i got to eavesdrop on great local foodie gossip among the waitstaff. i'd like to come back for the stuff I've missed.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 12 November 2004 04:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Uma Thurman is from Boston

― TOMBOT, Friday, 12 November 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

by way of Morningside Heights

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 12 November 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

the nastiest patriots fan ain't shit compared to the nicest iggles fan
-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), December 13th, 2003.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

tell me of Cantabrigian hotels - the Harvard Square Hotel, the Inn at Harvard, the Kendall Hotel

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The Harvard Square Hotel and the Inn at Harvard are on opposite ends of Harvard Square and maybe a six-minute walk apart. I would presume that the Harvard Square Hotel is less expensive solely because the last time I checked prices at the Inn it was something like $200+/night.

The Kendall Hotel is in the MIT area right near the Kendall T stop. Other than that, I know nothing about it.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the charles hotel has some great bars/restaurants in it including the regattabar for jazz, and Noir, which makes wonderful (overpriced, but wonderful) cocktails. bottled beer is $4 though, so you can drink there all night.

you're not looking for cheap are you ;)

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I was gonna say!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure I understand the last bit. I'm looking for something cheap, but nice.

Harvard Square Hotel sounds ideal, really - perfect location (ok, the immediate site is a little weird) in that it's right by the river/HSq amenities/T, and really inexpensive, considering. And you don't need to stay at the Charles to eat at Rialto. The Inn at Harvard might be a little "nicer" but seems a bit unnecessarily pretentious in style. Kendall Hotel looks very cute, but I see no reason to pay more for it. I guess I just want assurance that HSH isn't a dump.

How far to Inman Square from such places?

Also, what about the Harborside Inn? That seems a good budget-conscious choice if you want to stay close to all the touristy stuff - and this is for tourist purposes - but I think Cambridge would probably be nicer.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The Charles is exorbitantly expensive, or at least it was. Also, the last meal I ate at Rialto ended up being $50/person.

Inman Square proper is probably a 20 minute walk from Harvard Square; the 69 bus runs right through it.

I don't know anything about Harborside Inn BUT it's right next to State Street??? AWESOME DUDE.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. Supposedly it can be loud at night. I'm probably just not remembering well, but I can't think of what exactly would go on there at night - are there people around?

The bus is from Harvard Square? Is Inman closer to MIT or about the same?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Inman is closer to Harvard and Central; it would be something of a hike to get there from Kendall/MIT. The 69 picks up people right and Johnston Gate in front of Harvard and runs every 15-20 minutes.

Nighttime in that area = Quincy Market and the neighborhood of 8 million bars and restaurants right next to it. If you like going out at night, THAT is the place to stay as you can stagger home without having to reserve $25 for cabfare.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Harborside certainly would save a T ride or two and some walking, but, while not exorbitant, it's the most expensive of these, and to the extent I was thinking of late night (as opposed to regular night) activities at all, I was thinking Inman Sq. Or is it not the place for that? I'm not much of a stagger-homer.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

just so you know, no part of cambridge is very far away from the other. the subway has 5 stops in the city, and the bus runs everywhere.

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 June 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Depends on what you're looking for in "late night". Inman has some restaurants and three bars that I've frequented (Ryles, Thirsty Scholar, and if it's reopened, The Druid) but as far as looking for someplace to hang out in the evenings you'll have more options if you stay in town or do Harvard or Central Squares in Cambridge.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

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