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lol that's a hotel restaurant!

sarahell, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:15 (ten years ago)

lol that's a hotel restaurant!

I mean it's near our hotel

petulant dick master (silby), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:17 (ten years ago)

it is literally in a hotel.

sarahell, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:17 (ten years ago)

I can live with that.

petulant dick master (silby), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:18 (ten years ago)

i've never been there ... not making fun of you for eating at a hotel restaurant ... it's just funny in context of authenticity/appropriation narratives, as I associate eating at the hotel restaurant with "things unadventurous white tourists do"

sarahell, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:22 (ten years ago)

i get that but there are definitely instances of good restaurants happening to be in hotels

ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:23 (ten years ago)

no doubt! it's just a stereotype.

sarahell, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:25 (ten years ago)

ate at a hotel Chinese restaurant in Brno once and urgently regretted it. one of those in retrospect very bad ideas.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:28 (ten years ago)

re:sarahell Your bff has probably eaten at more Portland area Asian food restaurants than I have, since on average I eat a restaurant meal about twice a year.

fwiw, Portland never had much of a "Chinatown" compared to many other west coast cities, so our Chinese restaurant scene has always been impoverished. But we did get a pretty large influx of southeast Asian immigrants in the 70s and early 80s, and we now have quite a few Vietnamese restaurants owned and operated by Vietnamese. We also have a good-sized representation of south Asians who mostly came to work in the high tech industry, which has instigated the appearance of some Indian restaurants.

But, if, as a Portlander, I am condemned to be served blandified and mongrelized Asian food adapted to white ppl's ignorant palates whenever I pay for a meal in a local Asian restaurant, even if the owners of the restaurant are Asian immigrants who know how to make food that better conforms to the original culture's idea of what tastes good, then wouldn't it make more sense to pity me for paying good money to eat slop, than to say I am to blame for ruining the food? How am I going to learn, if I am never exposed to the "real" thing, and how am I going to be exposed, if the owners choose to serve me slop? It's a vicious cycle.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 18:43 (ten years ago)

Lol you're not doing anything wrong. IDC what you like. In fact you should tip 25-50% as long as you're eating at an asian-owned restaurant

FYI Portland never had much of a 'chinatown' because chinese immigrants were driven out http://www.washington.edu/uwired/outreach/cspn/Website/Classroom%20Materials/Pacific%20Northwest%20History/Lessons/Lesson%2015/15.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886

, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 19:10 (ten years ago)

From another Wikipedia article:

Chinese Massacre Cove is an area along the Snake River in Wallowa County, Oregon, United States. It is located in the Wallowa–Whitman National Forest and the Hells Canyon National Recreation Area, upriver from the Snake's confluence with the Imnaha River. In May of 1887, it was the location of the Hells Canyon Massacre, where thirty-four Chinese gold miners were ambushed and murdered.[

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 19:35 (ten years ago)

I think there are a lot of signifiers of familiarity or comfort that are taken for granted that some people don't wrap their heads around when it comes to seeking out restaurants. I was going through some Yelp reviews (the savages!) of local places and there are a number of comments about specific customs or signifiers in the dining experience I don't really care about that people seem to take as given quantities and find fault with restaurants that deviate from their norms.

On the other hand, a local favorite Vietnamese place recently reopened after a fire and I haven't even tried to visit because it's completely packed to the point they've had to close several days after running out of food. And it's been weeks. But every article about the place has a handful of "why do people go here, dish X is not as good as it is at these other three restaurants" comments which are probably true, but completely ignores the fact that this place is either a neighborhood destination or pretty much comfort food for many people because of their long standing.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 19:43 (ten years ago)

To change the subject from Oregon's horrible treatment of minorities, the major reason I rarely eat at restaurants isn't so much a lack of funds as a lack of interest. I am usually able to prepare and eat better food at home, so I do.

I have not mastered Asian cuisine, though I wish I could magically acquire the ability - without putting in the necessary labor or having to buy all the proper utensils and specialty ingredients. The few dishes I make that vaguely resemble Asian food are deeply inauthentic and don't pretend to be anything but an assemblage of tasty ingredients put on a plate. Their only real virtue is that the ingredients are fresh and taste good together.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 19:58 (ten years ago)

there are hotel restaurants and hotel restaurants. there’s the restaurant at the holiday inn in jamestown, new york that serves their hamburgers at room temperature. then there’s the boutique hotel that hires a world-class chef to develop a "concept."

i skipped the lao for lunch because it was out of my way and got hot pot. although i always feel bad eating at hot pot places because they give me 500% more food than i can possibly eat. so i end up feeling full while there’s still a huge stack of stuff on my plate that hasn’t even gone in the pot. but what i did eat was yummy.

number of comments about specific customs or signifiers in the dining experience I don't really care about that people seem to take as given quantities and find fault with restaurants that deviate from their norms.

there’s a subset of Yelp reviews by people who seem to expect an insance level of obeisance from waitstaff that just boggles my mind. those reviews are usually pretty easy to spot (they often have a /lot/ of paragraph breaks, words in ALL CAPS, etc.) and skip over.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 20:05 (ten years ago)

another takeaway from yelp: groupon can be really bad for your business

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 20:22 (ten years ago)

"i had 18 groupons for ten free sandwiches each and the owner said i could only use one at a time! what nerve!"

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 20:28 (ten years ago)

places get a bunch of traffic of people not used to the cuisine or prefer an americanized version, groupon users get either overworked waiters or dishes that aren't what they're used to, reviews plummet

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 20:33 (ten years ago)

i wouldn't say its the majority but there are definitely a few examples in nyc.

there's http://kingscoimperial.com/, run by this person:

lol bless me father for i have sinned, but i was in ny last week and my friend was staying right by here (i have been a lot lately and mainly try to stay in manhattan cos it has more tourist value and more AUTHENTICITY) and i was going to a theatre show in bushwick so we went here. i guess i was hoping for some sort of twist or variance, like that's sort of how i'd praise pok pok or something, not that it's "refining" or shit like that, but that maybe there's a mix of things going on that i can't get in a more authentic place.

anyway i feel as if language like "watered down" is really bandied around when it comes to music, food (where at least it's more accurate), and other things, but i can honestly say this place was really very bland. i mean i dunno, i went to a western-type chinese place in my home town run by chinese liverpudlians from age 6 to anytime i visit my parents, and kings county couldn't even get that kind of thing right. like i think we got a salt and chilli pork chops, basically like fried meat, but there was no onion, or no chilli.

my friend got some type of twice cooked pork but it was shit. i can see the appeal of somewhere like this if the food was good, i have like three or four really good chinese restaurants near me now, i don't know why but in east london there seems to be a bit of a breakout of non-westernised chinese food. but they're mostly like bare bones places, with no conversation, no music, fittings and furnishings that are like they come from an office, a stink of oil etc.

i don't care about this shit and i prob eat at my fave one once a week, but it does kinda give perspective to the whole "nice" place thing. i mean, i was at one of the three on friday and it was prob the worst atmos and most dire room i've ever been in, despite being clean and quick service and fantastic food, and good value.

but i can see how if somebody opened a fancy restaurant with a maitre d and service and nice lights and music that the food wouldn't have to be authentic for loads of white people to go and try it. i mean i wouldn't say i feel welcome when i go to a smaller place. i'm not paying that premium that means the staff are trained to high-five me.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 00:30 (ten years ago)

Ay if you want a twist or variance check out mission chinese (but only order the 'classic' dishes)

, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:09 (ten years ago)

Also i havent brought up authenticity even once in this revive its a shell game dont fall for it

, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:14 (ten years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/article/affluent-white-man-enjoys-causes-the-blues-1511 relevant 2 thread imo

adam, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:47 (ten years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/03/dining/chinese-food-modern-american.html

good article

One was working as an accredited C.P.A. Another had just completed the requirements for a pre-med degree at the University of Chicago. Yet another, a junior employee at Morgan Stanley, walked down 75 flights in the World Trade Center’s South Tower and back into the family food business on Sept. 11, 2001.

These New Yorkers — Thomas Chen, Jonathan Wu and Wilson Tang — are among a few dozen Chinese-Americans who have recently surfaced as influential chefs, determined to begin a new culinary conversation with the food of their ancestors. Independently, they arrived at the same goal: to invent a kind of Chinese-American food that is modern, creative and delicious instead of sweet, sticky and bland.

But they took similar routes to get there. Despite their advanced academic degrees, these chefs started over as culinary students — usually against their families’ wishes.

“No Chinese parent sends their child off to college hoping they’ll work in a kitchen,” said Mr. Chen, 31, whose parents owned a restaurant in Mount Vernon, N.Y., while he was growing up. “That’s what you go to college to escape from.”

They worked their way up in high-end global kitchens like Noma, Guy Savoy, Eleven Madison Park and Jean-Georges. And then, having defied their parents, they defied their culinary training as well. They left the luxurious places where they had mastered foie gras and morels to open storefront restaurants where they can mess around with pork belly and pomelo, steamed eggs and sawtooth herb.

In addition to exploring a vast pantry of new ingredients (osmanthus, pandan, celtuce and wood ginger), they are facing a daunting new arsenal of Chinese cooking techniques, entirely different from the skills they’ve been schooled in.

“It’s not just recipes that are different,” Mr. Chen said. “It’s basics like how to hold a knife, how to trim an onion, how to boil vegetables.”

The phenomenon is certainly not confined to New York City, although several of its exemplary restaurants are clustered in Lower Manhattan: Mr. Wu’s Fung Tu, Mr. Chen’s Tuome, and Yunnan BBQ from Doron Wong, 39, and Erika Chou, 31.

It is also not new. Pioneers like Susanna Foo and Ming Tsai long ago opened ambitious, creative Chinese restaurants that paved the way. More recently Anita Lo, of Annisa in the West Village, has been the spirit guide for many young chefs; her stubborn conviction that Chinese food can flow seamlessly into Western fine dining smoothed the path for this next generation.

They include Justin Yu and Karen Man at Oxheart in Houston, Shirley Chung at Twenty Eight in Irvine, Calif., Brandon Jew of the eagerly awaited Mister Jiu’s in San Francisco, and Sheridan Su of Fat Choy in Las Vegas. In New York, Mission Chinese Food and RedFarm both have a similar spirit and exciting food.

There is also a junior class of specialists, like Hannah and Marian Cheng of Mimi Cheng’s DUMPLINGS! in the East Village, where the DUMPLINGS! are made from sustainable meat and served with farm-to-table vegetable sides from their Taiwanese mother’s recipes; the Boba Guys, who use organic milk and house-made syrup in their bubble tea; and Debbie Mullin of Wei Kitchen in Seattle, who makes small-batch shallot and chile oils.

Mr. Su is a refugee from fine-dining kitchens on the Las Vegas Strip who started a solo career making bao in a corner of a strip-mall hair salon. His newest venture, Flock & Fowl, is devoted to the classic southern Chinese dish called Hainanese chicken rice, but with upgraded ingredients and innovations like congee topped with fried (free-range) chicken, a poached (organic) egg and (house-made) pickles.

Most of these chefs have never been to China and have no Chinese culinary training, so they are learning as they go, synthesizing the values of the kitchens they know (organic, seasonal, soigné) with Chinese elements they do not. “No one would give me even the lowest kitchen job in Beijing,” said Cara Stadler, 28, who grew up in Massachusetts and moved to China with substantial experience in the kitchens of the chefs Guy Savoy and Gordon Ramsay. Instead, she started the city’s first underground supper club. “Going to the markets every day forced me to really learn about Chinese produce,” she said.

Ms. Stadler is now the chef and owner of Tao Yuan in Brunswick, Me., where the shellfish are plentiful and exquisite. Next week, for the Lunar New Year, she will be making plump scallop won tons — and then drying the bivalves’ side muscles to simmer into a homemade XO sauce, a fiery, funky, hugely popular condiment from Hong Kong.

Chinese ingredients by themselves are a vast field of study — dried mushrooms, cured meats, salted fish and bean pastes are only the beginning. Most of these chefs grew up without them: Instead, they ate a combination of American snacks, global fast food and the kind of meals a Chinese mother living in Dayton, Ohio, or Avon, Conn., might produce on a Tuesday night in the 1980s: beef stir-fried with romaine lettuce (in the absence of gai lan or bok choy) or fried rice studded with pepperoni instead of sweet lap cheong.

“Every Chinese family I knew had Dinty Moore beef stew in the pantry,” said Mr. Tang, 37, whose family owned real estate and Chinese bakeries in New York City, including the classic Nom Wah Tea Parlor, which he now runs. “You throw that in the wok with some soy sauce and chile bean paste, fresh rice from the rice cooker, it’s not bad.”

That kind of crude fusion doesn’t satisfy them anymore. From cookbooks and childhood memories, and through trial and error, they are feeling their way into one of the world’s most complex, ancient and demanding culinary traditions. So they are making their own five-spice powder, hand-cutting noodles and home-brewing basics like pickled mustard greens, chile bean paste and fermented black beans.

And they are hoping to find “essentiality” — the important modern value idea of making fine, fresh ingredients taste like themselves.

“Honestly, I thought that was a Japanese thing,” said Mr. Wu, of Fung Tu, who spent years working in the kitchen at Per Se. “I didn’t realize that Chinese food had that, only because I’d never had that kind of Chinese food.”

Mr. Wong, the chef at Yunnan BBQ, who grew up near Boston and trained in Hong Kong, where his family emigrated from, said: “Most Americans, including me at some point, have just never had Chinese food. When I went there and saw things like cornmeal wrapped in a banana leaf, or wood-roasted chicken wings, I thought, ‘Am I really that ignorant about my own food?’”

The answer was probably yes. Chinese-American food — mostly Cantonese banquet dishes adjusted for long-outgrown American tastes — is so ingrained here that even Chinese-Americans have come to believe that it is closely related to “real” Chinese food, when in truth it is a very, very distant cousin.

But that is starting to change as different cuisines and cooks arrive here from China, as more Americans travel to China, and as haute cuisine there bounces back from a long dormancy. Traditional (and modern) Chinese restaurants are thriving as the growing middle class and the new availability of ingredients from around the world have generated new demand.

Kian Lam Kho, 62, a software engineer turned chef who grew up in Singapore and lives in Harlem, is one of the few people equally at home in the American and Chinese culinary worlds. He returns to Asia frequently, snapping up old and new Chinese-language culinary textbooks as they come back into print. (Restaurants, culinary schools and cookbooks have been common in China since the Song dynasty, about 1000 A.D.) He used these texts to research his magisterial new book, “Phoenix Claws and Jade Trees,” which details not only the recipes and regions but also the underlying concepts that have been the building blocks of Chinese cooking — and of much East Asian cooking — for thousands of years.

He said the book was partly designed to teach English-speaking people of Chinese heritage like these chefs, who may have lost the language of China but not their loyalty to its food.

“Unless they understand the original dishes, what they cook will never have a real relationship with Chinese food,” he said. When they braise the classic red-cooked pork in the oven instead of in a wok, he said, or if they sear the meat first, the way they are taught in Western cooking schools, it changes the flavor, the mouthfeel and how everything works together.

Using clam chowder as a reference point, he said, “Anyone can take clams, potatoes, salt pork and milk, and make some kind of dish.” But if the pork fat is not rendered, if the potatoes are left whole, if the cooking is too fast, it will not be chowder.

This new effort to synthesize Chinese and American cuisines takes more study and skill than squirting a few drizzles of soy and hoisin onto Western dishes like grilled steak or mashed potatoes. Those thoughtless mash-ups are why these Chinese-American chefs now shudder at the term “Asian fusion” and go to great lengths to define what they are doing differently. (They are definitely not tinkering with sushi or dabbling in pad Thai.)

The term “Chinese-American food” has even worse connotations: heavy, sticky, deep-fried.

“We definitely need to figure out what to call it,” said Mr. Tang, who is a partner in Fung Tu.

Modern American-Chinese? Chef-driven Chinese-American? “Elevated or upscale sounds too snooty, especially when we’re basically serving ribs and noodles and chicken wings,” he said.

Another challenge, Mr. Tang said, is to decide whether the cooks supporting them in the kitchen should be graduates of restaurants like Hakkasan, who would have the Chinese skills, or like Gramercy Tavern, who have the fine-dining finesse.

“What we need is ABCs” — American-born Chinese — “who speak Chinese but also speak farm-to-table,” he said. “ And so far, there aren’t too many of us.”

, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 17:49 (ten years ago)

to invent a kind of Chinese-American food that is modern, creative and delicious instead of sweet, sticky and bland.

the food at my ideal restaurant would probably satisfy all six of these criteria tbph

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:05 (ten years ago)

Blandly delicious?

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:39 (ten years ago)

oh hell yeah

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 19:10 (ten years ago)

Blandly delicious?

Some Korean desserts fit this

badg, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:48 (ten years ago)

congee fits that description imo

just sayin, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 21:56 (ten years ago)

if you're in NYC make sure to go to the food market in Queens

http://www.wsj.com/articles/building-a-food-festival-hold-the-fusion-1457472327

fuck a smorgasburg lol

, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:08 (ten years ago)

I just feel like things can taste really amazing without being aggressively flavored and I'm into those things

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:14 (ten years ago)

Blandly delicious?
Some Korean desserts fit this

― badg, Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it depends on your reference point. i find most american food too salty or too sweet.

i'm not a fan of sweets/desserts, but i quite enjoy korean desserts specifically because they are less sweet than, say, japanese desserts, though a few japanese desserts are less sweet

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:15 (ten years ago)

putting a night market in queens just seems inhumane

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 March 2016 22:56 (ten years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/12/korea-paris-baguette-chain-expands-french-bakery

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:10 (ten years ago)

that's interesting. i've been to paris baguette plenty of times. it's fine. but a korean *chain* setting up shop in paris and selling baguette to parisians sounds weird. i would assume they're localizing their foods to satiate local palates

the koreans won some type of world baking contest recently as well, didn't they? i've had a lot of korean desserts; they're very good at baking. i prefer korean (birthday) cakes to american ones

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:24 (ten years ago)

yo i tried to go to that queens night market last year. we drove around corona for an hour trying to park before giving up and getting bhutanese food in woodside.

take the train i guess is my contribution here

adam, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:50 (ten years ago)

Independently, they arrived at the same goal: to invent a kind of Chinese-American food that is modern, creative and delicious instead of sweet, sticky and bland.

this binary is one of the modern journalist, use it for food, music, clothes, art, whatever. not taking away from these chefs but fuck this kind of language tbh. might as well just say "food that is good, good and good instead of bad, bad and bad"

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:59 (ten years ago)

putting a night market in queens just seems inhumane

The park is a good space

How long have u been in nyc again? 5 minutes?

:)

, Thursday, 10 March 2016 01:55 (ten years ago)

i don't live in NYC lol

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:16 (ten years ago)

didn't realize it was in flushing meadows tho thats cool, was just worried there were no trains to wherever it was gonna be held

k3vin k., Thursday, 10 March 2016 03:18 (ten years ago)

flushing meadows is a nice walk from the flushing train stop, you can also take the chinatown vans

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/02/22/467113401/lo-mein-loophole-how-u-s-immigration-law-fueled-a-chinese-restaurant-boom

the reasons why i feel so strongly about white ppl opening chinese restaurants are also historical - i wish this piece would have named the Chinese Exclusion Act by name tho

Anti-Chinese sentiment was rampant in America in the early 20th century — and had been since the latter half of the 19th century, when as many as 300,000 Chinese miners, farmers, railroad and factory workers came to the U.S. Many non-Chinese workers felt threatened by these laborers, who often worked for lower wages.

Amid mounting social tensions, the U.S. passed immigration laws that explicitly barred Chinese laborers from immigrating or becoming U.S. citizens, and made it extremely difficult for even legal residents to re-enter the U.S. after a visit home to China.

But, as MIT legal historian Heather Lee tells it, there was an important exception to these laws: Some Chinese business owners in the U.S. could get special merchant visas that allowed them to travel to China, and bring back employees. Only a few types of businesses qualified for this status. In 1915, a federal court added restaurants to that list. Voila! A restaurant boom was born.

"The number of Chinese restaurants in the U.S. doubles from 1910 to 1920, and doubles again from 1920 to 1930," says Lee, referring to research done by economist Susan Carter. In New York City alone, Lee found that the number of Chinese eateries quadrupled between 1910 and 1920.

, Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:13 (ten years ago)

that's interesting. i've been to paris baguette plenty of times. it's fine. but a korean *chain* setting up shop in paris and selling baguette to parisians sounds weird. i would assume they're localizing their foods to satiate local palates

the koreans won some type of world baking contest recently as well, didn't they? i've had a lot of korean desserts; they're very good at baking. i prefer korean (birthday) cakes to american ones

― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

paris baguette is great lol there's one across the street from my office

, Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:15 (ten years ago)

authenticity of cronut appropriation questioned!
https://www.quora.com/Reviews-of-Paris-Baguette-Croissant-Donut-Cronut-imitation

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:50 (ten years ago)

I've been to Paris Baguette in Manhattan. wasn't bad for New York bread! mostly I liked the desserts which were not very French but more Korean.

I haven't been to the one in Paris. there are plenty of chain-y boulangeries in Paris, lots of Brioche Dorées etc, lots of frozen vienoisseries, it's fine, wonder if they have the korean desserts there.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 10 March 2016 19:53 (ten years ago)

"Quant aux gâteaux à la patate douce et aux petits pains aux haricots rouges, ils ne figurent pas encore au menu."

so evidently no, they don't sell the Korean desserts here. blah.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:02 (ten years ago)

there is a Paris Baguette in Berkeley. I had no idea what it was and why most of the people I'd see eating there were East Asian students, and now I get it.

sarahell, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:24 (ten years ago)

"Quant aux gâteaux à la patate douce et aux petits pains aux haricots rouges, ils ne figurent pas encore au menu."

so evidently no, they don't sell the Korean desserts here. blah.

― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah, there you go. if you've not eaten them before, though, i really recommend the red bean ones -- they're actually not normal red beans, but azuki beans. i quite like patbingsoo

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:37 (ten years ago)

http://www.thegreenespace.org/events/thegreenespace/2016/mar/24/wnyc-sporkful-live/

seems relevant.

Where's the line between culinary cross-pollination and cultural appropriation? What's the difference between taking inspiration from someone else's food and ripping it off?

Join Dan Pashman, host of WNYC's The Sporkful, at this live podcast taping with actress Rosie Perez, artist Ashok Kondabolu (aka Dapwell), and cookbook authors Chitra Agrawal and Nicole Taylor.

Is a burrito filled with sushi (like San Francisco's "Sushirrito") a beautiful symbol of the American melting pot or an offensive bastardization of two proud cuisines? When is it appropriate for chefs to cook food from a culture they weren't born into? How do our assumptions about people affect our assumptions of their food? And how do their assumptions about our food affect how we feel about ourselves?

The Sporkful will tackle these questions and more in this kick-off to their podcast series, "Other People's Food."

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:43 (ten years ago)

literally everything at paris baguette apart from the coffee bun is garbage

carly rae jetson (thomp), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:24 (ten years ago)

did you have to taste more than half the store to come to that conclusion

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:27 (ten years ago)

he had to taste everything

uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:31 (ten years ago)

actually i was briefly addicted to the KOPAN also but that was a difficult moment in my life and i regret it

http://paris.cdn.malgnsoft.com/paris/event/2015/kopan/page.jpg

xpost i have eaten a regrettably large amount of the things they sell at paris baguette, yes. i am easily moved to action by novelty

carly rae jetson (thomp), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:31 (ten years ago)


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