What's the best way to discourage people from going to see Danny Boyle's Sunshine?

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Yes, it's rubbish.

― Alba, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, sorry for misrepresenting you a little re: the cloyingly whimsical You and Me and Tralala in which the kids were funny.

Has Boyle not admitted somewhere himself that Sunshine is a slightly indulgent mish-mash of films he likes himself? Or is that someone else's review I've put in his mouth? (He did an int on the bbc Culcha Show about it.)

― Zoe Espera, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

I had a great time at this movie. A very solid entertainment.

― Ben Boyerrr, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

norbit was great

― RJG, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

lack of daleks

big con

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ah this reminds me of the the great 28 Days Later wars.

Sunshine was nowhere near as offensive to me as 28 Days Later, but its devolvement in the last third is truly rubbish. And yes, nicking ideas from PT Anderson seems perverse.

Go see Lights In The Dusk instead.

― Pete, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

I quite liked 28 Days Later. I was thinking of seeing this. But I think of seeing many films and rarely do.

It couldn't possibly be as bad as Signs, could it? That's 100 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

Pam & I rented Me, You and a Dog Named Boo - along with The Hours and, er, something else - last week. I'd love to tell what I thought but, despite having them for seven nights, we didn't get time to watch any of them. This, sadly, is my life.

I saw Signs on a cheap bus from DC to NY so it was 100min I could've spent looking out of the window, I suppose.

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

alba, what is your opinion of 2001: a space odyssey?

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

Signs was good fun.

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

I saw it in Amsterdam's most magnificant cinema, which helped (the sound was shit tho).

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

Sunshine was nowhere near as offensive to me as 28 Days Later, but its devolvement in the last third is truly rubbish.

It's true that for the first two-thirds or so, I just thought "this isn't working very well" and that it wasn't till it the final section that I started spluttering in disbelief at its awfulness.

alba, what is your opinion of 2001: a space odyssey?

It used to be my favourite film. Mark S's disdain for it has unsettled me a little, but then he doesn't like my replacement favourite film, Mulholland Dr, either.

― Alba, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

ledge you have gone mad.

I felt it a real pity that such great cinematography/imagery was wasted on such a terrible (or at least incredibly derivative) plot. it often looked great, the idea of making the sun a central character is a good one, but pretty much everything else sucked. and oh dear god the final scenes (and especially the final scene) were beyond terrible.

on the hand I did quite enjoy it.

― toby, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

The Core was better. And funnier.

― Pete, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

Did the Sun have any good lines?

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

no, but it had the best dressing room

― Alan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah it was derivative, but no more so than the half-dozen One Guy Against The Government thrillers that come out every year. And hey, I'm a sucker for space movies. I even got tears in my eyes at the first shot of the spaceship in Serenity. Go figure. But really it was cinematography, the son et lumiere, that killed me.

― ledge, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

Did the Sun have any good lines?

"Have you got anything for these spots?" At which point whole cast fall about laughing and film ends on freeze-frame of behatted sun winking.

Sorry - SPOILER.

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with you ledge, the cinematography was really great. I just kept waiting for more shots of the spacecraft and the sun cos they were so damn good to look at.

― Jibe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

We can all agree that it had beautiful cinematography, I think. It was done by Alwin H. Kuchler, who also did Ratcatcher and Morvern Callar, so yeah.

― Alba, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking that, even though I don't really read sci-fi myself, all the sci-fi films I've really liked (that I can think of) have been stories by real sci-fi authors, rather than writers like Alex Garland, dabbling in the genre.

― Alba, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

son et lumiere

Sun de SO LAME, more like. (sorry)

― Alba, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

do Cillian and Chris E get naked?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sure this will be better than 28 Weeks Later.

― akm, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Chris Evans was really good in it, but that could be because lots of the rest of it was quite bad.

― Pete, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

"I'm thinking that, even though I don't really read sci-fi myself, all the sci-fi films I've really liked (that I can think of) have been stories by real sci-fi authors, rather than writers like Alex Garland, dabbling in the genre.

-- Alba, Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:33 PM (5 hours ago)"

third ROCKISM from the sun amirite?

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

You know, this film ain't all that bad. In fact, it's fairly pretty and the music is noodly-techno great.

this is true - i was surprised it was Underworld, since i kinda gave up on them ages ago.

The photography and sound effects, capturing the inconceivable, blazing, screaming power of the sun, were a tour de force.

this is also true! the *sound* of the sun was quite overwhelming.

I'll get it out on DVD...

this, on the other hand, is a fucking terrible idea - unless you've got Proper Massif Fuck-off home cinema gubbins it will look absolutely crap on a domestic telly.

oh yeah, and the storyline? pffft. but that's hardly the point. see it in the cinema, restrain your ire at the ridiculous premise, and just get blown away but the HUGEness of it.

― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

unless you've got Proper Massif Fuck-off home cinema gubbins it will look absolutely crap on a domestic telly.

i'm going to watch it on my IPOD - how do you like that?

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

the story is fine. the pinbacker stuff is a bit 'waht?' though.

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

CharlieNo4 - Aye, I have a projector and a big blank wall, so fairly decent home cinema gubbins. Although maybe shitey domestic telly making it look like Space Invaderz is all it deserves. But then I liked the re-make of Solaris AND 28 Days Later so who knows.

― Zoe Espera, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Chris Evans bared torso content, pls?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Sunshine is a much, much better film than 2001.

― DavidM, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to see Sunshine again this weekend, with some friends who haven't seen it. I can never usually bother - or be able to afford - to see a film at the cinema more than once, but this is worth it.

― DavidM, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm AMAZED at the harshness this is getting. And 28 Days Later, too! I didn't love either, but I did enjoy them both (although Sunshine less so). There are much, much greater cinematic sins than these two films.

― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

ile has always hated '28DL', a bit randomly.

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

But it's a really effective reinvention of the zombie genmre, with a nice homage to the deleted kid-shooting bit from Dawn Of The Dead and some wonderful shots of London and a much-better-handled-than-you'd-expect-"people-are-the-real-danger"-bit in the final third?!

― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

*SPOILER ALERT*

Is there any significance to the fact that the Pinbacker character is almost named after a character from Dark Star? (that's not the spoiler)

One of these days I'd like to see a mission-against-the-odds film where the mission is successfully carried out in a professional, unemotional manner. Nothing major goes wrong, everyone gets along, handshakes all round after completion, roll credits. I'm serious. I'd find that more interesting than all this OMIGOD IT'S A PSYCHO KILLER LIVING NEXT TO THE SUN WITH A PROPENSITY FOR USING POWER TOOLS ON HUMAN FLESH nonsense you always get. Also, why does every film have to end in a glorified brawl? Two blokes grappling around with each other gets lame quick.

― Matt #2, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

they do the fight quite well to suggest it doesn't actually happen?

i like that they were all going to die pretty much fer shure anyway.

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

I wd get an answer to the Chris Evans question if it was Katie Holmes

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

Saw 28DL on C4 last night.

Started out like The Omega Man Goes To London mixed with The Changes - the shots of deserted London were undeniably stunning but little was done with them (similarly with the very touching scene when Cillan Murphy finds his parents dead in bed, ODing on the assumption that he was a goner). Then we get all the stereotypes one by one: the Feisty Woman, the Salt Of The Earth Bloke Plus Daughter, Ecclestone playing his usual Psycho Admin role.

I wish the film had had the courage to go further down the Changes route, or even set itself up as a British Outlaw Josey Wales; they could have done a lot more stuff in the countryside, gradually pulling together a new community etc. rather than cop out with the Christopher Ecclestone Wants Your Women/It Was All A Dastardly Government Quarantine Plot stuff; I was half expecting Murphy to wake up at the end of it all and there's Ewan McGregor in the shower.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 25 June 2007 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

(SPOILERS BELOW)

this is in new york now, i went to it. it's entertaining, i don't get all the bitching. doesn't have an original idea in its head, but as a sort of highlight reel of spaceship movies, i thought it did the job. really could have done without the religious nutjob psycho killer, but wtf, they needed something for the third act. i like spaceship movies, it satisfied the requirements of the genre (mostly by stealing them from other movies, but i'm ok with that).

― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 21 July 2007 07:06 (eighteen years ago)

(yes, the film's basic set-up is fundamentally silly, and fundamentally silly things transpire throughout. i was still not bored.)

― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 21 July 2007 07:08 (eighteen years ago)

to answer the thread title, send out whores for free-boinking, and everyone should be distracted.

― kingfish, Saturday, 21 July 2007 07:14 (eighteen years ago)

It's the cover feature in Film Comment.

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 21 July 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

how is Film Comment these days? i used to subscribe way back....

― ryan, Saturday, 21 July 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

this is not nearly as bad as alba makes it out to be. you ppl are weird about danny boyle a bit, aren't you

― s1ocki, Saturday, 21 July 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

FC was RAWSOME this time last year.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 21 July 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

Great film.

― SeekAltRoute, Saturday, 21 July 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

(in answer to the thread title, i'm not sure there's actually a way to discourage people -- or at least me -- from seeing a movie about a spaceship flying into the sun. if you make a movie about spaceships flying into the sun, i will pay money to see it.)

― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 22 July 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

Now this has hit the Prince Charles [local old films for cheap] cinema I'm gonna see it AGAIN.

― ledge, Sunday, 22 July 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

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