― Ed (dali), Thursday, 20 February 2003 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 February 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Thursday, 20 February 2003 16:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
what do Muslim and Christian Israelis do if they want to get married?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 20 February 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
Legal system: mixture of English common law, British Mandate regulations, and, in personal matters, Jewish, Christian, and Muslim legal systems; in December 1985, Israel informed the UN Secretariat that it would no longer accept compulsory ICJ jurisdiction
It would appear that muslims and christians can sort that one out for themselves, but it does suggest that for personal matters the Torah takes precedence to a certain extent.
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 20 February 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
in December 1985, Israel informed the UN Secretariat that it would no longer accept compulsory ICJ jurisdiction.
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― hstencil, Thursday, 20 February 2003 16:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
It's code for "Fuck you, we'll invade who we like"
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 20 February 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
I believe that Jews are not solely a religious grouping, and the first Zionists (first self-identified Zionists, not the messianic return-to-Palestine groups that have always existed no matter how small) believed this as well. In fact it was many religious Jews in E. Europe that were most opposed to Zionism--to the politicization or secularization of Jewish identity.
"Nation" per the OED:
An extensive aggregate of persons, so closely associated with each other by common descent, language, or history, as to form a distinct race or people, usually organized as a separate political state and occupying a definite territory.
Note the "usually." Jews are an instance of a nation without a state.
I'm not trying to assert this as common sense, although I think I may have given that impression. It's a contentious issue.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
Zionism \Zi"on*ism\, n. [Zion + -ism.] Among the Jews, a theory, plan, or movement for colonizing their own race in Palestine, the land of Zion, or, if that is impracticable, elsewhere, either for religious or nationalizing purposes; -- called also {Zion movement}. -- {Zi"on*ist}, n. -- {Zi`on*is"tic}, a.
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
It's possible to argue that the early Zionists, savvy assimilated Western Europeans as they were, realized that to win adherents to the cause and to get support from modern European democracies, they had to frame Jewishness as a national and not a religious identity--by contrast Jews in Iran post-Shah have had to frame it as a religious identity lest they be perceived as an Israeli satellite community. A question is whether there is a Jewish identity which remains--relatively--constant despite these shifts in "approach."
― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
I still honestly believe in the idea -- which has had a rough time in practice so far -- that the only way Israel can be free from terrorism is by working as hard as possible to help transform Palestine as an organized entity, something that has so far been given only the most tentative and half-assed efforts. (And sadly, the lack of success in those attempts has led Israel to decide to put less, and not more, effort into them.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
i just had to read a chapter from "the world is flat" for an economics class and gooooooooddaaaaaaaamn is friedman a pandering brainless blowhard. endless fluff about how "globalization" is making the world safe for democracy followed by a stern reminder that americans are "falling behind in the global work force."
― J.D., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link
friedman's biggest problem is imagining that everyone wants to work hard for money. the man has apparently never observed a successful crime in his life.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 06:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Aren't we falling behind in the global workforce, though, with all those Indians suiting up and working all shifts?
― Eazy, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 06:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I lost all my illusions that Friedman was writing about anything resembling reality a long time ago.
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 06:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Smooth.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
She said, finally, that Friedman gives generously to charity.
This man's career has been a miracle. He and David Brooks should get on their knees every day and thank whatever saint is the patron of mediocrities.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Be a rather bland saint. St. Whatever.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Well then.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 June 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
"Instead of asking who clogged the toilet, maybe we should be asking why America’s scores on standardized math and science tests are so low." Ha ha.
How is it this thread doesn't contain any mention of Matt Taibbi's infamous takedowns of the mustachioed one.
<a title="http://www.nypress.com/article-11419-flathead.html" href="Flathead: The Peculiar Genius of Thomas Friedman">Flathead: The Peculiar Genius of Thomas Friedman</a>
<a title="http://www.nypress.com/article-19271-flat-n-all-that.html" href="Taibbi on Hot, Flat, & Crowded">Taibbi on Hot, Flat, & Crowded</a>
― sciolism, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Doh.
Flathead: The Peculiar Genius of Thomas Friedman
Taibbi on Hot, Flat, & Crowded
― sciolism, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/10/opinion/the-day-our-leaders-got-unstuck.html?hp
This is a scary economic moment. The response we need is not easy, but it is totally obvious. We need a Grand Bargain between America’s two parties — and we need it right now. Until you read the following news article, we’ll be stuck in a world of hurt.
first time i've clicked on a friedman column in forever and it has to start like THAT??
― j., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 06:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/opinion/sunday/Friedman-a-theory-of-everyting-sort-of.html?src=me&ref=general
This one is just so mind-bogglingly awful and empty.
― Helping 3 (Hurting 2), Monday, 15 August 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
seriously, did someone drop him on his head when he was a baby?
― caek, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
the existence of his column is far more baffling to me than the quiddities/style aspects of the nyt
― caek, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/books/niall-fergusons-empire-traces-wests-decline-review.html?hpw
this has got to be a banner day for ol thomas:
As usual, Mr. Ferguson, who teaches in Harvard’s history department and business school, uses his powerful narrative talents in these pages to give the reader a highly tactile sense of history. But his book as a whole has a hurried, haphazard feel to it that underscores its genesis as a companion volume to a British television series called “Civilization: Is the West History?” Not only do the book’s more cogent arguments owe a decided debt to ones made by the New York Times Op-Ed columnist Thomas L. Friedman and the CNN commentator Fareed Zakaria, but its more original hypotheses also tend to devolve into questionable generalizations (“Europeans today are the idlers of the world”), contradictory assertions and silly Power Point schemas that strain painfully to be relevant and hip.
― j., Wednesday, 16 November 2011 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
Friedman shows up in "the Revenge of the electric car" docu for no discernable reason at all
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
Oh no for Paul Simon fans:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/hey-isnt-that-paul-simon-and-thomas-friedman-at-the-bombay-club/2012/02/07/gIQAuvGCxQ_blog.html
Singer Paul Simon and New York Times columnist Tom Friedman dining together at the Bombay Club Monday night with two others. Shrimp, kebab, veggies among their shared dishes. What’s the occasion? Nothing special, the columnist’s office told us, “just a dinner with friends.”
Bombay Club in Washington D.C. I think
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
idk, i can see friedman and paul simon being friends and shit ... they're both on the same bland "one flat world" wavelength.
― it might look subversive, but it's actually crap ... crap does exist (Eisbaer), Thursday, 9 February 2012 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_04/taking_one_for_tom_friedman036755.php#
What a knucklehead. He wants Bloomberg to run for Prez as a 3rd party candidate. He whines:
had to catch a train in Washington last week. The paved street in the traffic circle around Union Station was in such poor condition that I felt as though I was on a roller coaster. I traveled on the Amtrak Acela, our sorry excuse for a fast train, on which I had so many dropped calls on my cellphone that you’d have thought I was on a remote desert island, not traveling from Washington to New York City. When I got back to Union Station, the escalator in the parking garage was broken. Maybe you’ve gotten used to all this and have stopped noticing. I haven’t. Our country needs a renewal.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
He is right tho about the Acela being a sorry excuse for a fast train.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
And only in his fantasy world is he going to get a Congress that will vote for the money needed to have a good fast train
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2012/04/one-true-wanker-of-decade.html
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
there are no limits to his idiocy
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
Yep.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
What's your favourite 2Unlimited song?
― s.clover, Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/thomas-friedmans-new-state-of-grace-20120627
― s.clover, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
Love it. I just read Max's February Gawker piece on Friedman columns and Paul Simon lyrics too. Friedman's an unintentional laugh riot.
― Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
"Inside Deadmau5's Rolling Stone Cover Shoot"
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
slapped around by Greenwald... haven't heard the New Zealand radio interview at the bottom yet, but if it's "contemptuous" we should all like it.
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/25/the_value_of_tom_friedman/
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/no-kidding-the-most-incoherent-tom-friedman-column-ever-20120725
― s.clover, Thursday, 26 July 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
Thomas Friedman and David Brooks are both people who allegedly have large audiences out there, and yet I've never met anyone professing to like them, or at least not in the last ten years.
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
Correction: October 28, 2012
A phrase in this version of the article has been changed to “every fertilized egg in a woman’s body” from “in a woman’s ovary.”
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-grenade-of-understanding-winners-of-the-write-like-friedman-challenge-20121115
― s.clover, Monday, 26 November 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://thomasfriedmanopedgenerator.com/Power+With+Purpose+e25453#
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:58 (eleven years ago) link