their popularity is growing, that's for sure
― a (waterface), Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:03 (ten years ago)
look i'm the first to say the growth of the far right is accelerating at the same time its various strands & impulses are being normalized -- but i still think unaccountable police violence is a bigger problem. its worth keeping up that sense of skepticism even for the bundy types.
this "waistband" detail is p much dispositive if it holds up
― goole, Thursday, 28 January 2016 20:23 (ten years ago)
"where he had a gun" seems important, too
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 28 January 2016 20:50 (ten years ago)
as opposed to "where police believed he may have been concealing a gun"
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 28 January 2016 21:13 (ten years ago)
Yeah, this dude was definitely strapped.
― how's life, Thursday, 28 January 2016 21:15 (ten years ago)
I don't think this dude is going to get a lot of benefit of the doubt really.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 January 2016 21:20 (ten years ago)
If not necessarily suicide-by-cop, then maybe righteous-martyrdom-by-cop?
It's sad that this had to end with somebody getting shot, but I'm wondering how much in the guys own mind this is how his storyline ends and he was going to take control of it for once
― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Thursday, 28 January 2016 22:54 (ten years ago)
Law cited against Oregon occupation was created to corral Civil War secessionists
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 January 2016 23:06 (ten years ago)
Turn it off before 6:00 if you don't want to see a man shot and killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjl1hefqqWI
But there is something really weird about seeing a vehicle in the crosshairs of some government aircraft that's –
http://i.imgur.com/RRL6lAS.jpg
– I mean IN COLOR. IT'S WEIRD TO SEE IT IN COLOR.
― pplains, Friday, 29 January 2016 03:25 (ten years ago)
This is what happens when a sovereign individual declares war on the sovereign state the individual resides within: their army proves to be somewhat insufficient to prosecuting the war to a successful conclusion.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 29 January 2016 03:59 (ten years ago)
Yeah, who woulda thought this goober couldn't organize an armed insurrection?
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1485325/oregon-standoff.jpg
― Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Friday, 29 January 2016 15:12 (ten years ago)
The main political takeaway I hope comes out of this guy's death is the realization that no amount of militia-level armament is going to allow them to challenge the authority of the local police, let alone the army, and that that particular 2nd Amendment justification/perversion with regards to gun control is a complete fiction with no standing in a rational, evidence-based world.
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 29 January 2016 17:47 (ten years ago)
a rational, evidence-based world
now you've gone too far
― mookieproof, Friday, 29 January 2016 17:50 (ten years ago)
hear hear
― a (waterface), Friday, 29 January 2016 17:52 (ten years ago)
I mean, I know it won't be, but still
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 29 January 2016 18:00 (ten years ago)
nd that that particular 2nd Amendment justification/perversion with regards to gun control is a complete fiction with no standing in a rational, evidence-based world
there's a bad side to this, too--if the militias decide guns are not working to get their point across, they'll start to bomb more buildings
― a (waterface), Friday, 29 January 2016 18:03 (ten years ago)
at which point maybe more of them will be treated as terrorist organizations
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 29 January 2016 18:04 (ten years ago)
guessing it's hard to "prove" sedition in court but from what i've seen, a lot of these fuckers are seditious
― a (waterface), Friday, 29 January 2016 18:06 (ten years ago)
There are now only about four occupiers left in the refuge hq. They are now demanding full pardons for everyone who took part in the occupation before they will leave the premises. Or else they will start executing the dozens of dildoes they are holding hostage.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 29 January 2016 21:22 (ten years ago)
So ... they are holding themselves hostage?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 January 2016 21:50 (ten years ago)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iXOAKnUqQ7M/UOr2khzx0qI/AAAAAAAABIk/JG-gOCAR2M0/s1600/Sheriff_Bart_self_hostage_Blazing_Saddles.jpeg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 January 2016 21:51 (ten years ago)
so these assholes are still there.
from a friend:
the Malheur takeover is a calculated effort to disrupt a national model for collaboration, cooperation and mutual benefit between federal agencies and local stakeholders.
very good background here, ALEC is involved:
http://www.triplepundit.com/2016/02/clive-bundy-taunts-feds-malheur-takeover/
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 02:03 (ten years ago)
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html
― a (waterface), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:52 (ten years ago)
why does newsweek hate america
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:32 (ten years ago)
remember when right wing extremists flew airplanes into NY skyscrapers
― Mordy, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:35 (ten years ago)
no but I remember when they blew up a federal building
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:35 (ten years ago)
i'd have no complaint if the headline said "also a threat"
"They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have."
huh, 2002. what an interesting year to start counting from
― Mordy, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:38 (ten years ago)
Not much of an attention grabber tbh.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:44 (ten years ago)
is it really wise to lump all islamic militant groups into one category? i don't think doing so for all domestic groups who have anti-government leanings is necessarily prudent, either, but treating them as a potential threat seems useful
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:03 (ten years ago)
tbf the article does single out three particular stripes of domestic militants
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:05 (ten years ago)
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― Mordy, Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:35 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
look up the statistics smart guy
― a (waterface), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:26 (ten years ago)
the statistics of...
― Mordy, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:31 (ten years ago)
temperatures at which steel beams melt
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:34 (ten years ago)
Ha Ha!
― nickn, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:38 (ten years ago)
Ha
― broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:50 (ten years ago)
tee hee
― a (waterface), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:00 (ten years ago)
https://kendoc911.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/td1.jpg?w=300&h=193
― nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:05 (ten years ago)
― Mordy, Thursday, February 4, 2016 1:35 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...never forget...
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:24 (ten years ago)
you know who might be a bigger threat even than isis... the mongol hoards
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:26 (ten years ago)
idk not too much room for hoarding in a yurt
― mookieproof, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:46 (ten years ago)
considering building a yurt in my yard to test out the concept
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:48 (ten years ago)
Atlantic Yurts: deBlasio's next hiusing plan
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:49 (ten years ago)
survivalists and isis are both right wing extremists
― een, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:50 (ten years ago)
i just am tired of the hassle of living in a house
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:52 (ten years ago)
my yurt will prob have a microwave
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:53 (ten years ago)
i will let you downi will make a yurt
― mookieproof, Thursday, 4 February 2016 22:17 (ten years ago)
Yurt seen nuthin y'aint
― broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 23:12 (ten years ago)
this isn't the thread for yurts
― petulant dick master (silby), Friday, 5 February 2016 00:24 (ten years ago)
Yurt not be here
― broderik f (darraghmac), Friday, 5 February 2016 00:32 (ten years ago)
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Place a photo of yourself on the CLAIM and enter your name.
Place a color Title 4 flag in the upper left-hand corner.
Bring a lancet or pin, photo id, inkpad, twenty dollars, and two witnesses to the post office with the CLAIM. Let the Postmaster know that you are making a legal document for identification purposes. (Remember to smile and be nice) and ask him/her if she would be willing to reference your ID and verify that you are the person by placing his autograph on the CLAIM (remember to say thank you). Next, Have all of your witnesses sign.
From the Postmaster, purchase a one-dollar U.S. Postage stamp and affix it to the upper right-hand corner of the CLAIM and ask him/her to cancel it. (if you get a funny look, say that you are mailing it to yourself, GENERAL DELIVERY and you just need to record the date that you did that)
Next explain that to associate the life with the claim you must affix a tiny sample of your DNA on the page and put one small drop of your blood on the page.
Put your right thumb print on the page.
Tell the postmaster that you want send this REGISTERED MAIL, RETURN-RECEIPT. He will hand you the card and you mail it to yourself,: First-Middle: Last, General Delivery, Your Town. From: exactly the same.
Write the RETURN-RECEIPT number on the top of the CLAIM and make 5 color copies.
Place a copy of your CLAIM in the envelope and seal it.
Pay the FEE for the SERVICE and tell the Postmaster that you are here to pick up your mail.
Say thank you, have a nice day. Aren't public servants useful?
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― mick signals, Sunday, 7 February 2016 20:22 (ten years ago)