"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

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"You have an obligation to proceed to the Harney County Resource Center (the wildlife refuge) immediately," Hunt wrote. "If you fail to arrive, you will demonstrate by your own actions that your previous statements to defend life, liberty, and property were false."

o shit they've proclaimed a caliphate

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

http://cdn.billmoyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/5927274_1_l.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

I was thinking about ridiculous moves that could be done to make this someone else's problem, and inspired by these assholes desecrating ground and rifling through native american artifacts... just give that part of the refuge to the local tribal council government

then turn a blind eye to whatever might happen!

there's no way anyone wants these idiots to be their responsibility to deal with, though

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

These arrests are not the last step in the Malheur wildlife refuge situation. Now we'll get all the out-of-state crazies jumping in their pickup trucks and heading for Oregon with their arsenals of weapons and ammo, looking for a rumble. My heart goes out to the good people of Harney county who've been enduring this shitstorm of imported stupidity. It will probably get worse before it gets better.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:14 (eight years ago) link

i'm reminded of the flypaper theory of iraq

balls, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link

uh, is anyone watching this live feed from inside the standoff? http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/watch-live-feed-from-inside-the-standoff-at-oregon-wildlife-refuge

i'm listening to it one ear as i work and it's fascinating. some of them appear to be recording their final statements for their family.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link

then you have little snippets of conversation like "we came, we were peaceful....and now we're gonna fuck shit up", followed by some old guy going "yes sir"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

they're discussing when they should go to the bathroom. one guy just said he's been known to shit himself

i bet all of this is actually very similar to off the record founding father conversations

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

o_O

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

oh boy

nomar, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

we came we were peaceful and now i'm gonna shit myself

nomar, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

I skipped around in that. Sounded like one guy was recording a statement for his family. Heard a little bit of a discussion about how geese don't know which way to fly because the government's so screwed up. Then I found a little discussion about who was going to go poop and then relieve some other guys who had to go poop. xp lol

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

they just started talking about who is pooping again. also some guy is complaining that he can't believe his sister is there, given how much she complains about the world

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

they're holding out hope that some militia will come and reinforce them in time for...something. but they don't know how far away the militia is

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

sounds like a gas

bicyclescope (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

"When the shootin' starts get that camera rollin'"

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

"we left a video with him as to what we want done with our remains."

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

(this is around 19:40)

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

"how well do you think they can hear us from here?", says one of the guys who likes to talk about poop, about 10 feet from the camera, clearly audible.
tech guy: "not too good"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

Now these addled cowboys will feel justified in totally trashing the refuge HQ because that's what you do in a war, you grab and smash and shoot whoever you want. I would love to see them all captured alive, then sentenced to 300 years apiece in federal prison, where they can stew in their own pseudo-constitutional juice.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

my buddy is a cameraman for a news channel and he was up there, he told me there was an Inf0Wars guy there who was telling all the other media guys they were sheep or whatever, couldn't be trusted to be neutral, then would stand BEHIND the bundy crew at the podium nodding along with everything they said, arms folded.

nomar, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

here is the current live feed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-rdXj9xrGI

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link

This is significantly less exciting than Balloon Boy, as far as live feeds go.

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

friend on FB points out:

"Tell me you didn't livestream that" says voice just off camera after ten minutes of hearing him discuss how to respond to law enforcement and how they need to set up their defensive parameter.

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link

One doesn't expect the brightest of bulbs to be running the show at this point.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link

Dude is calling a buddy trying to arrange for his dogs to be removed. Turns out the guy he's calling was there when they shot the one guy. Asks him why he's not out there shooting them sunsabitches.

Oh my god these people are dumb.

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link

stupid... like a FOX!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link

Now imagine the people in those gifs, but with loaded semi-automatic weapons!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:39 (eight years ago) link

One of the guys appears to have a text message alert that sounds like a silencer.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

Asks him why he's not out there shooting them sunsabitches.

I just listened to that too. He also believes that militia from around the world are on the way.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link

every time i think about these guys with weapons i think about White Boy Bob in 'Out of Sight'

nomar, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link

Did the guy bring his dogs to the standoff, or is he just setting up passing them on should he get capped while rushing a state patroller?

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link

He brought them. He was asking his friend "do you think you could meet me at the front gate" or something and from his responses you can tell his buddy was like "there is no way I can do that".

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link

i'm kind of loving this livestream. right now it's just a shot of the landscape with ominous helicopter noises, people mumbling about stuff in the near distance. they're talking about coffee. amazing.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link

better than Paul Ryan's blizzardcam?

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

what happened to that one dude

its subtle brume (DJP), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

dude's shooting in portrait now.

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

omg

is this livestream dumbass guy about to take a ride on a ATV? anyone else see that?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

Did they bring their own four wheelers for fun or are they still jacking state vehicles?

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

good q, I'd bet the latter

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

it was tough to tell, but it looked like the handlebar of an ATV. or maybe i just really want him to ride around the area, livestreamin'

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

That's what it looked like he was about to do. Stream is currently stopped, maybe affixing camera to the handlebars?

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

every time i think about these guys with weapons i think about White Boy Bob in 'Out of Sight'

― nomar, Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:44 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Very OTM. A combination of that and Homer from the Simpsons gun episode. Using their guns to scratch their backs and crack nuts and such.

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

Back up. Think they just mentioned something about a muslim president. Everything's good here.

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

sorry, do you have a link? the old one doesn't seem to be working now.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

i hate these guys but i'm veeerry skeptical of the FBI and/or state police killing someone and not saying much about it

from the Times:

The F.B.I. and the Oregon State Police said that Mr. Bundy, his brother and three other people, including Shawna Cox, 59, of Kanab, Utah, and Ryan Waylen Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Mont., were arrested on a state highway, but they provided no further details. Ms. Cox and Mr. Payne were prominent in speaking for the refuge. Also arrested on the highway was Brian Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nev.

The authorities said only that shots were fired during the course of the arrest. Two other people: Peter Santilli, 50, of Cincinnati, and Joseph Donald O’Shaughnessy, 45, of Cottonwood, Ariz., were arrested later in Burns, and John Eric Ritzheimer, 32, turned himself in to the police in Peoria, Ariz., the authorities said. All of the defendants face a federal felony charge of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation or threats.

goole, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link


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