http://www.theguardian.com/society/live/2016/jan/22/britain-on-the-booze-live?page=3
The Guardian has decided to do a live blog version of one or those police-sponsored clip shows. Interesting time here, obviously it's entirely society is in the gutter, mostly reads like a police or hospital press release, lots of passive voice and dull, faintly sarcastic asides. P much worst thing I've ever read in the Guardian.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Saturday, 23 January 2016 07:02 (eight years ago) link
Damn my phone, interesting tone I meant. NB I am not drunk right now.
I usually hate lol @ feckless underclass stuff, but 'Booze Britain' was a guilty pleasure a few years back. I used to like the bits where they'd cut away from the drunken mayhem and interview some paramedic, or cop, on duty, who would be like "It's terrible, you see fellas glassed, women going to toilet in the middle of the road, vomit, broken glass everywhere... <shakes head> you know why it is don't you? <pause> It's the booze."
― Agents, show the general out. (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 23 January 2016 13:13 (eight years ago) link
i kind of liked it too, but mainly due to the way the tone would want you to be on the side of the police but quite often they were provoking as much as on the receiving end.
i remember once, on either booze britain or like police camera action, the brummie narrator called someone a "valve". like "this valve decides an alleyway is a perfectly good public toilet, but dc briggs begs to differ".
never heard it before or since.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Saturday, 23 January 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link
Are you sure that wasn't Ted Maul narrating?
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 January 2016 13:29 (eight years ago) link
I made up the context, can't remember exactly what that was.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Saturday, 23 January 2016 13:41 (eight years ago) link
I used to watch Booze Britain to put myself in the mood for a night out
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 23 January 2016 15:24 (eight years ago) link
We used to watch these a lot, often we would say "hang on, the PC is being a dick here"
― Mark G, Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:28 (eight years ago) link
yeah otm!
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:29 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i've often wondered, if they're happy to go on TV as aggressive, patronising, antagonistic bullies then what the fuck do they think they can get away with off-camera?
― Jute Gazte (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:51 (eight years ago) link
i always wonder about the civilians being filmed too. do they sign a form afterwards? i can't imagine why anyone would consent to that.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:55 (eight years ago) link
people volunteer to go on Jeremy Kyle, i guess they just like seeing themselves being real and if other people can't handle that etc
― Jute Gazte (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:50 (eight years ago) link
Remember watching a Booze Nightmare prog about 10 years ago where one of the cops was (already too aggressively) asking a pissed bystander to move on, and the guy was being totally compliant and placatory but in the course of doing so casually used a swearword, I think it was "shit" in the sense of "and shit", and this savage was like DON'T SWEAR AT ME even tho any reasonable person could see that they hadn't sworn at him, had barely sworn to him. It was a scary scene but not in the way the programme makers seemed to think, just watching this vicious cunt with no idea how people interact leaping at the chance to create a situation where there was none
― microtone policing (wins), Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:55 (eight years ago) link
Acting like a drunken twat is pretty minor considering the things people will voluntarily do in exchange for being on TV. In any case in what is ostensibly a documentary I don't think you need to obtain explicit consent to broadcast that sort of footage, although you do leave yourself open to legal action after the fact. I've no idea what happens in practice.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 24 January 2016 12:00 (eight years ago) link
That's not right.
The production company gets a permit to film an area, then puts up signage to the effect of 'we are filming People Are Horrible today and by entering this area you consent to being filmed' - and then it works just like when they film a gig, and there's something on the ticket about entering venue = consent to filming.
― jedi slimane (suzy), Sunday, 24 January 2016 12:17 (eight years ago) link
it's not that minor is it? like if my boss sees me getting arrested for pissing down an alley and shouting at a police officer, couldn't i be fired? p serious reputational damage i'd have thought, even for incidents which have no effect on your record.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 January 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link
they often blur faces on these shows so it's not as simple as that xp
― đ đđ˘đ¨ (caek), Sunday, 24 January 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
Blurring is sometimes necessary when there are ongoing legal actions that could be prejudiced by showing faces.
The law isn't really settled though, afaik. There is a right of privacy and you can get in trouble if you film without explicit consent and the person specifically asks you not to show the footage but most of the cases I can recall have been around distressing situations, like the deaths of family members, rather than getting drunk in the street. It is a work in progress.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Sunday, 24 January 2016 14:02 (eight years ago) link
remembering working on shoots in london, as far as the place you film goes i think a lot of it depends on the council - like most of london you tend to need a permit from the borough council. maybe you could do it without that and get away with it, but at bbc we always got one as far as i recall.
i guess who you film is another issue.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 January 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link
the other thing i recall is - on booze britain or whatever - the camera would antagonise some people and they'd get more annoyed because of it. it always felt p wrong.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 January 2016 15:51 (eight years ago) link
This fucking guy:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/06/liberals-harsh-truths-help-refugees-syria
― ledge, Sunday, 7 February 2016 08:59 (eight years ago) link
hey, it's a simple enough demand
― Chikan wa akan de. Zettai akan de. (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 February 2016 09:09 (eight years ago) link
Comments will be open later today
I see The Guardian are avoiding to pay admins some over-time here.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 February 2016 09:55 (eight years ago) link
They're not admins, they're moderators. And yes, there's less cover at weekends.
― Alba, Sunday, 7 February 2016 11:01 (eight years ago) link
Please update resource plans for mods to factor in the inflammatory shit hardsh truth-telling at weekends.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 February 2016 11:10 (eight years ago) link
Nick Cohen took a right-wing stance? Boy, that's going to make me reconsider my position.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 7 February 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
a friend of mine is a graun au journo and I asked her about the comment moderation stuff, she said everyone who does it burns out from the dreadful shite they have to can. I couldn't do it.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Monday, 8 February 2016 08:07 (eight years ago) link
there's a thing about this in the current private eye saying they're closing comment threads on articles about race/migration/islam/etc for ^ that reason
― sktsh, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 09:15 (eight years ago) link
FREEZE PEACH THO
― Agents, show the general out. (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:05 (eight years ago) link
it's annoying when using the app to accidentally 'recommend" horrible CiF posts while scrolling.
― pastoral fantasy (jed_), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link
this is more bizarre than bad
http://i.imgur.com/WDmc9jU.png
― conditional random jepsen (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 00:40 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/w6vS84I.png
― conditional random jepsen (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 00:45 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/mar/02/cult-of-memory-when-history-does-more-harm-than-good
― F⯠A⯠(â), Thursday, 3 March 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/features/who-guards-the-guardian-2
― uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 March 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link
is the guardian weekly decent? would like a NYT intl subscription but it's really expensive, guardian weekly is cheap!
― niels, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/713132632457011200
this isn't a picture of johan cruyff
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 March 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link
One long haired Ducth footballer from the 70s is as much like any other tbh
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 March 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link
Oeps!
― Madchen, Friday, 25 March 2016 07:04 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/29/football-quiz-around-the-world-in-80-questions
this is a good, but incredibly difficult, football quiz
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link
That was fun. 63/80, though quite a few of those were flukes.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link
I got something like 41, ha.
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link
Damning read on Rusbridger's spendthrift ways http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/guardian-editor-alan-rusbridger-rupert-murdoch
― stet, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/29/the-guardian-view-on-londons-mayoral-race-elect-citizen-khan
... the chaotic charisma of Boris Johnson ... the socialist swagger of Ken Livingstone ...
― (Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 April 2016 11:49 (eight years ago) link
the competent drum work of Caroline Pidgeon
― some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 April 2016 11:56 (eight years ago) link
The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner etc
― (Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 April 2016 11:59 (eight years ago) link
oops, meant to say Zac Goldsmith there. Dammit.
― (Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 April 2016 12:00 (eight years ago) link
Rusbridger taking over as chairman of the Scott Trust has been nixed. Katharine Viner was reportedly opposed to it and the board failed to agree to his appointment yesterday. They were due to meet again today but the reports suggest (correctly or otherwise) that he has decided to step aside to resolve the impasse.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 13 May 2016 11:28 (eight years ago) link
I sort of want to say.... thank fuck?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 13 May 2016 12:09 (eight years ago) link
this thread will be going when every original ilxor is dead
― the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Friday, 13 May 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link
reckon we'll outlast the guardian tbh
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 13 May 2016 13:56 (eight years ago) link