jenny mccarthy wants your kid to get measles: autism, vaccines, and stupid idiots

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html

velko that is the worst thing in the world.

Nicole's site is a bittersweet piece of consolence.

For Bjorklund -- whose children attend Stoneybrooke Christian Schools in San Juan Capistrano, where 18% of entering kindergartners had vaccine exemptions last fall -- doubts about vaccine safety resonate.

"Part of the reason is that there's been such a huge rise in autism . . . and what's the cause?" she said. "Just because the pharmaceutical companies say we need it doesn't mean we need it."

i get so angry about shit like this

bjerklund or bdorklund, i can't decide

Final followup on Andrew Wakefield

THE doctor who sparked the scare over the safety of the MMR vaccine for children changed and misreported results in his research, creating the appearance of a possible link with autism, a Sunday Times investigation has found.

Confidential medical documents and interviews with witnesses have established that Andrew Wakefield manipulated patients’ data, which triggered fears that the MMR triple vaccine to protect against measles, mumps and rubella was linked to the condition.

The research was published in February 1998 in an article in The Lancet medical journal. It claimed that the families of eight out of 12 children attending a routine clinic at the hospital had blamed MMR for their autism, and said that problems came on within days of the jab. The team also claimed to have discovered a new inflammatory bowel disease underlying the children’s conditions.

However, our investigation, confirmed by evidence presented to the General Medical Council (GMC), reveals that: In most of the 12 cases, the children’s ailments as described in The Lancet were different from their hospital and GP records. Although the research paper claimed that problems came on within days of the jab, in only one case did medical records suggest this was true, and in many of the cases medical concerns had been raised before the children were vaccinated. Hospital pathologists, looking for inflammatory bowel disease, reported in the majority of cases that the gut was normal. This was then reviewed and the Lancet paper showed them as abnormal.

Despite involving just a dozen children, the 1998 paper’s impact was extraordinary. After its publication, rates of inoculation fell from 92% to below 80%. Populations acquire “herd immunity” from measles when more than 95% of people have been vaccinated.

Last week official figures showed that 1,348 confirmed cases of measles in England and Wales were reported last year, compared with 56 in 1998. Two children have died of the disease.

With two professors, John Walker-Smith and Simon Murch, Wakefield is defending himself against allegations of serious professional misconduct brought by the GMC. The charges relate to ethical aspects of the project, not its findings. All three men deny any misconduct.

Through his lawyers, Wakefield this weekend denied the issues raised by our investigation, but declined to comment further.

"Just because the pharmaceutical companies say we need it doesn't mean we need it."

i wonder if part of the attraction of the anti-vaccine/vaccine-skeptic 'movement' is that it can be so neatly folded into an anti-corporate stance?? like hatin vaccines is some punkrock antiauthoritarian shit or something'

i mean skepticism is healthy, esp when dealing with the pharmaceutical industry, but this shit is mind-blowingly wrong-headed

i think so gbx but i also think its linked/part of a wider backlash against "invasive" "western" medicine and the general decline in satsifaction and trust in health care providers.

i think the autism movement bothers me so much in part because there ARE a # of things that the medical community and health care providers have done and are doing that are wasteful and dangerous (unnecessary surgeries, obv conflicts of interest in prescription, not consistently implementing best practices in hopsitals &c) but none of these have anything to do w/vaccines. im sure someone's pointed out most of the big pharam co.s dont want to invest in vaccines which arent particularly profitable and make more $$$ from ppl getting sick then the ever will from vaccination

i think the autism movement bothers me so much in part because there ARE a # of things that the medical community and health care providers have done and are doing that are wasteful and dangerous (unnecessary surgeries, obv conflicts of interest in prescription, not consistently implementing best practices in hopsitals &c) but none of these have anything to do w/vaccines

^^^ totally. it's sort of stunning (like, literally) that ppl will get whipped into a frenzy about a likely non-existent problem like vacc--->autism and yet be all yawn whatever w/r/t like basic medical care for underserved populations

( as well as other wasteful/dangerous medical practices, ob)

lol my virology prof had nothing kind to say about anti-vaccine ppl 2day

the backlash in some circles against "modern western" medicine is so funny to me...

not discounting that there is a lot of beneficial stuff that falls outside of that norm...but....it's like all these people romanticize stuff that dates back to the XX century in china and stuff, it's like...didn't people only like to be like 45 back then?

45 would be extremely elderly.

been thinking a lot baout this, as a kind of phenomenon. not to get all dj martian but systemic thinking is really hard. narrative thinking is kind of easy; this happened, then that happened! especially if it's personal (this happened to me/her/us, then that happened). conspiracy theories explain big problems with narratives: "someone is behind all this!!" which is key to their power but also what's wrong with them. it gets even more difficult when there really are lots of bad, shitty or selfish decisions being made as part of a big systemic problem; any explanation, narrative or otherwise, is necessarily political.

(i don't have any education in the philosophy of mind or brain science tho, just talking out my ass)

evidently

;-P

Read a paper that concluded that in pre or non-scientific communities, neutral or even harmful treatments could spread more effectively than helpful ones. Because a bad treatment get used for longer (due to their not curing the initial problem), that gives more opportunity for other people to observe its use, and just that observation is enough to encourage them to try it, regardless of its perceived efficacy.

note to self, if you're gonna edit yr post to change plurals to singulars at least finish the job.

Jim Carrey joins the idiot circus:
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=2200

Only appropriate.

narrative thinking is kind of easy; this happened, then that happened! especially if it's personal (this happened to me/her/us, then that happened).

lol r u reading animal spirits???

i am an animal spirit

no i am not! but i should

i think i had in my head the crowd of torture defenders actually! there's this reflex among those ppl to cut out all big picture/long term/data-oriented discussion in favor of immediately personal hypotheticals; "omg what if OSAMA had your DAUGHTER"

luv u, onion
http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/vaccine_rejectors_put_kids_at_risk

did this get linked here?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/200025

i feel like we talked about in on ilx but i can't remember

Oh god. I am currently working for an administrator in the state Department of Health and just fielded a call from a total luncatic ranting about the link between vaccinations and autism. This guy was completely fucking NUTS. Even as I repeatedly tried to explain that I wasn't the one he needed to speak with he kept going and said my boss was going to hide behind my skirt rather than listen to the truth. Towards the end he said he had a 19 year old son who has autism (:-( )because of the vaccines. I eventually hung up on him and feel bad but SWEET JESUS.

you could have said "no, sir, the reason your son has autism is because god hates you."

Ha. He probably would have tried to save me. I think hanging up was the best decision even though I'm pretty sure that's not the recommended way of dealing wtih the crazies (of which there are TONS btw). He hasn't called back . . . yet.

yeah, i think you did the best thing.

I don't know if he would fall into the same category of crazies/stalkers discussed in The Gift of Fear, but hanging up/refusing to engage is usually the best way to deal w/them.

Yesterday security called because there was some man downstairs with a container of food that he said was contaminated and needed testing.

I was just glad they didn't let him up here tbh.

you could at least commend him for not being wasteful

http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/10/doctors-fire-children-parents-refuse-vaccinate.html

fuck yeah

No shit they should.
I'm being driven bonkers by my colleagues who won't get their flu shots. Actually got in a fight with an OT the other day. How can so many health professionals, who otherwise practice EBM, be so fucking stupid about vaccines?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScGC7nFDxM

How can so many health professionals, who otherwise practice EBM, be so fucking stupid about vaccines?

lol when you work mental health you will hear people who're in a position to really affect patients' lives spouting all kinds of superstitious handed-down knowledge about which DSM dx's are "hopeless" etc, being a professional doesn't mean people absorbed ANY of the instruction imo it just means they got good at passing tests

oh dear god the comments.

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sucks sooooooo beutifull and young
just becouse the stupid fluu shot we got to fight the luminati is doing all this shit

so many video responses too...

it doesn't seem like there's any kind of confirmed link from the flu shot to the dystonia, but that cheerleader shit is pretty crazy.

the luminati is doing all this shit

its sad i mean she cld have cheered for a pro football team all that waste dam u luminati

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she iz very pretty

no homo

ok which one of you wiseguys made me lol here

hahahahahaha

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Another beautiful girl...RUINED BY SOCIETY!!!!

if only this could have happened to an ugly fat person!

how wld we even tell a difference??

:?

What a disaster for amazingly beautiful cheerleaders.

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lol this board is full of nothing but liberals laughing and praising the suffering of another human being. Fox news dosnt celebrate the suffering of people like the liberal bias on you tube does.
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