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xp mh that is a very difficult study to control. without looking for any data at all, .
--home organ

um...he was joking

no worries, home organ. Sorry to hit the conversation with more heaviness than was warranted at that time.

Adults with intellectual disabilities (them what used to be called retarded adults) are a gray area precisely because well-intentioned ppl are (quite rightly) trying actively to give them more say in their own affairs. Let them make choices, express preferences, experience consequences, take risks - in a gradual and regulated way.

It's still a long way off, but it's a strong likelihood that we'll face some tough judgment calls about my son's ability to handle a sleepover, summer camp, an unchaperoned date, a college dorm, a job. Those decisions can't be based on his chronological age (currently several years behind) but on an educated guess about what he can handle.

What about when it comes to having sex, signing a lease, getting married, enlisting in the army? I'm all for letting him leave the nest, but I'm not sure when I'd be ready to "let" him to sign up for suicide.

Yeah, you raise valid questions about even my condition of "mentally competent".

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oh and puffin: i did not mean to imply you expressed too much "heaviness" at all. i truly do not know how to address what you're very generous to discuss.

aimless do you have sources

If you would like scholarly references, then I can't accommodate you, because I am not a scholar. I read whatever interests me, about a book a week, and I've been doing it for decades. I don't keep the texts and I don't take notes. I seek no more than to gratify my curiosity about the world. I've read a variety of source material that include firsthand narratives by whites -- mostly engaged in the fur trade -- who were in early contact with native north americans. but I can't cite them for you chapter and verse.

I had to pull my son out of school today, he saved the worst for the last day of term - he physically assaulted his teacher and became unmanageable. Sometimes I think after I am gone, I dread to think what will become of him in this current set-up, never mind one where voluntary or otherwise liquidation starts becoming the norm.

puffin, you have my sympathies. when your child passes the threshold of legal majority (18) you'll be faced with the thorny decision of whether to seek legal guardianship or conservatorship. in our daughter's case that decision was not in question. it had to be done. so we weren't forced to weigh the delicately balanced opposing sides of that question, as you may need to. good luck.

aimless: please append "i think i read something written by a racist fur trader once but i can't really remember" to your future statements about how "very often" oppressed people "displayed all the behaviors" genocidal colonialist attributed to them.

Westward ho, me organ

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now I am curious if you find that "unsatisfactory care in childhood" should be construed as a non-racist theory for the origins of alcohol addiction among contemporary native american populations?

I like to think twas being unprepared to meet paddy what done it

poch out

most people think that wanting to die is an unhealthy cognitive distortion

The average punter has no clue how excruciating living with mental disorders can be. And for some, there's no more cure than there is for end-stage chronic diseases.

now I am curious if you find that "unsatisfactory care in childhood" should be construed as a non-racist theory for the origins of alcohol addiction among contemporary native american populations?

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless)

i live in canada. first nations people here account for about 4% of the population of the country, and first nations children make up 50% of children in care below the age of 14. first nations children's advocates have attributed this to the high rates of poverty among first nations people - and social services tendency to equate this poverty with neglect - as well as high substance abuse rates in caregivers that can be seen the legacy of the trauma caused by residential schools and the sixties scoop.

did a quick google and, although youre not a scholar, here is an interesting paper on the subjec of the overrepresentation of first nations children in canada's child welfare system (it is 11 years old so not totally up to date) https://francais.mcgill.ca/files/crcf/2004-Overrepresentation_Aboriginal_Children.pdf

i would suggest that being taken into care, for whatever reason, is not an optimal childhood experience.

beyoncé knowles is as boring as coldplay

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all of Mick Jagger's vocal performances are tied for 'Mick Jagger's worst vocal performance'

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is ilx ready to talk about birth tourism

the vast majority of people on earth don't want to fight to make the world a better place. they just want to be be comfortable and not be starving. and watch every episode of Friends again on Netflix. okay, i was projecting with that last part...

That last one seems pretty obvious to me

I'd go further to say that the majority prefer freedom from decisions to freedom. Not many of us really care enough about minority viewpoints to fight for them. Martin Niemöller's lament will never lose relevance.

Also, having only seen the discussion of Friends on The Good Place, even season 8?

I do think that people can be amazing in emergencies and in times of trouble! But they are 90% selfish in general.

A Tribe Called Quest's "We the People" is kind of terrible. (Not actually controversial, but I'd have a hard time finding anyone who agrees with me.)

Apart from a couple awkward stresses in Phife's verse, I can't find anything wrong with it, so I'd love to see this opinion developed.

Musically, I don't get anything out it. And it seems really preachy and obvious to me.

we the people is a fantastic song

that is a good post for this thread though

Agreed.

Preachy and obvious is the intention; what sounded like projection in November ("Muslims and gays/boy, we hate your ways") is prophecy now. Also, the snare backbeat and the details in Tip's lines (Ramen noodles, "niggas in the hood livin' in a fishbowl") are pleasures.

I'm not a huge fan of the Mellow Candle album. THERE, i said it. consequences be damned.

I don't think I've ever listened to an entire Tribe Called Quest album. that's not a controversial opinion though. a surprising fact, maybe.

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haha

Angela Merkel is hot

James Brown has a song about being black and proud, but isn't this kind of obvious?

i'm weirdly attracted to Kellyanne Conway despite thinking she's the worst human being alive

Alex Lifeson is the greatest rock guitarist of the last 40 years

Well now, that's just common sense

I've mostly liked the noir classics I've seen but I thought The Killers was surprisingly "meh".

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i'm weirdly attracted to Kellyanne Conway despite thinking she's the worst human being alive

??? She looks human jerky that's somehow still animate

Hence why it is controversial

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Lady gaga is garbage

Now that's not controversial: she is awful