Sopranos - Season 3

Would it not be a fair assumption that one of the points of having dedicated season by season threads for this is that one wouldn't come across a fucking list of major characters Tony kills in subsequent seasons?

Anyone?

I'm not sure you can complain about spoilers for a show/season that aired in 2001.

Specific context of a thread titled sopranos season 3, cmon now

i'm assuming morbs just isn't scrolling up to read the rest of the thread. since everyone knows that he's watching it for the first time, we can agree to not be dicks and post spoilers

Would recommend not watching "University" right before bedtime.

i'm taking a break bcz i know the next 3 episodes are 'rough'

"University" is not an easy thing to watch but it is easily one of the series' best episodes imo

Morbs I look forward to yr reaction to 'Pine Barrens'

the dirty work bit is amazing

this season has two of my all-time favorite TV music cues (the other one is a certain Paul Simon song)

if u mean Mother & Child Reunion, that's s2

There's also this in s3 ep2:

Later on, as the group gathers to talk about Livia, to fake some happy memories of her, a male figure descends the staircase just over Tony's shoulder, out of focus. He peers down toward the group gathered in the living room, then re-ascends. Who is he? It's unknown. (Wikipedia suggests, due to his glasses that he may be the young Junior Soprano; to me, the actor looks vaguely similar to the one that plays Tony's dad in flashbacks.) More importantly is that he's supposed to be unknown. He's out of focus for a reason, just another ghost checking in on the party. You can explain him away rationally, but the way he just suddenly appears in frame and the way the show never returns to the man wandering around upstairs suggest we're meant to be as unsettled by him as we are by the glimpse of Pussy.

http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/the-sopranos-proshai-livushka-47326

if u mean Mother & Child Reunion, that's s2

ah yes that's what I meant

also, Peter Riegert!

i don't think it hit me until "Employee of the Month" that Melfi's husband is played by the other Mean Streets supporting hood.

enjoyed the swansong hit performed by Burt Young as Bobby Baccala Sr in horror-comedy fashion.

and Tony went shopping at Fountains of Wayne.

the hacking, so much hacking

It takes a major suspension of disbelief for me to buy Pantoliano as a fearsome rival. Step on the little weasel.

Thought both "University" and "Second Opinion" erred excessively on the side of making Tony a softie after beating death of the Bing dancer. (In spite of him going apeshit on the staffer who bought the Billy the Bass that unleashed his Big Pussy guilt.)

I see Shakey made a similar point about Ralph / Joe P seven years ago

you already know this i'm sure but i think part of the ralph storyline is how he's a made guy and also the best earner in the organization, so he's considered kind of untouchable despite being a psycho. he always seemed less a rival and more of an extremely troublesome ally.

don't read the whole thread though! plenty of spoilers from later seasons.

i don't put a premium on that, generally speaking

I think the series may have been building toward Carmela telling her one-and-out shrink "His crimes... they are, organized crime."

Cifaretto's pronunciation of whore as "hoor" is def a Jersey thing i heard, I wonder how much elsewhere.

2001 is Big Mouth Billy Bass peak moment.

Jewish analyst dude is one of the rare moments in the series where none of the characters in the scene are trying to bullshit/lie/evade the others

― Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:29 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

peak/key moment of the series

Restarting this season watch, cept i couldn't remeber where i left off... Wound up rewatching "Second Opinion." "You can't say you weren't told."

Hope to get up to and through "Pine Barrens" tonight.

ha I was just wondering where you were in yr series viewing the other day

i'm a busy guy, suspect i will get to the show finale around the week Trump is "reelected"

"We shoulda stopped at Roy Rogers!"

"AND I SHOULDA FUCKED DALE EVANS, BUT I DIDN'T!"

pine barrens is the GOAT

I wonder how often younger fans research the pop references they have no business knowing, like Rogers-Evans above. Or when Tony calls Machiavelli "Prince Matchabelli."

Also liked the flinch Tony gave Gloria (Annabella Sciorra) when she said "Poor you," Mom's old line.

Last scene of "Second Opinion" is definitely one of my favorites from the whole series.

Would love a reunion scene of the crew sitting around the backroom debating Trump.

Don't know about Paulie Walnuts, but I'd bet Tony Sirico is on board.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/donald-trump-tony-soprano

Trump basically is one of "the crew", there would be no debate.

Paulie and Trump both germaphobes too, dont forget

I was amused:

The forest scenes for the episode were filmed at Harriman State Park in New York after, at the last moment, the production team was denied a permit to film in New Jersey (at the South Mountain Reservation) by the Essex County commissioner who called The Sopranos a "disgrace to Italians". The same commissioner was later incarcerated for corruption.

Haha!

I didn't listen to the Steve Buscemi commentary (he directed) on "PB," but whoever winged out Paulie's frozen hair in the late scenes was a genius.

to wit

http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/8/7/8/2878.jpg

lol otm

I wonder how often younger fans research the pop references they have no business knowing, like Rogers-Evans above. Or when Tony calls Machiavelli "Prince Matchabelli."

Rogers-Evans doesn't seem that obscure to this Gen Xer, but the Matchabelli one I didn't catch (never heard of that brand - apparently still going though, so I dunno how much of an "old school" reference that is?)

They had highly visible TV ad campaigns in my (and Tony's youth) though.

my comedian friend did a private party last night and posted a photo of himself between Junior and Pussy.

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lol @ Pussy's house being across from a graveyard

I think I miss my ferrets

"one-shoe cocksucker" is one of my favourite non-sequitur insults

I think tho it may be overlooked bcz it directly follows "Pine Barrens," "Amour Fou" is probably one of the very best episodes, from Carmela crying at the Met on.

In the last 2 episodes of this season, they end scenes by fading to black, which I don't remember seeing before, except for the last shot of most shows. What gives?

as opposed to just cutting to black?

No, forget the endings -- between scenes, unless I'm hallucinating, they would always do "hard cuts" from one sequence to another mid-show. Here, they fade to black on Jackie Jr and his goombah watching Basic Instinct on cable, then fade in on the next scene.

ah sorry I misread you. I didn't notice that particularly but I've kind of caught up to you in a re-watch and was thinking there were a number of things (edits/shot composition/etc) that made it feel like their visual game really steps up midway through S3 and into S4. Anyway yeah I'd agree that hard cuts are generally the rule, not sure why they would opt for fades at certain points all of a sudden.

This is kinda fascinating re the s3 finale "Army of One":

In the original 2001 broadcast, Agent Deborah Ciccerone was played by actress Fairuza Balk. However, due to scheduling conflicts, she was not able to return for season four. For the repeats and DVD releases, Balk was replaced by Lola Glaudini, who went on to play the role permanently in 2002.

Also this episode is a period piece; when the parents are arguing about sending AJ to military school, one of them (Tony?) says "The US military doesn't even go to war anymore."