Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Jon Passantino ✔ @passantino
CNN reporters outside San Bernardino killers' home says landlord was escorted away by law enforcement, put into unmarked vehicle

schadenfreude

well, he got his 15 minutes

is jon related to dom

xp

what happened to the 'third person' they had in custody? also, who was it who bought the firearms? they said they were legally purchased by someone who wasn't the shooter.

UPDATE 3:08: Here’s MSNBC’s statement on the matter. Take note of the boast about having the first “live shots from inside.”

MSNBC and other news organizations were invited into the home by the landlord after law enforcement officials had finished examining the site and returned control to the landlord. Although MSNBC was not the first crew to enter the home, we did have the first live shots from inside. We regret that we briefly showed images of photographs and identification cards that should not have been aired without review.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2015/12/04/msnbcs-terrible-live-tour-of-the-san-bernardino-attackers-apartment/

that video embed is insane. storage wars indeed.

what happened to the 'third person' they had in custody? also, who was it who bought the firearms? they said they were legally purchased by someone who wasn't the shooter.

― akm, Friday, December 4, 2015 1:04 PM (10 minutes ago)

yeah this, my wife was speculating that the couple was taken hostage? madness

This is Just to Say

I have briefly shown
the ID cards
that were in
the apartment

and which
you were probably
hoping
to keep out of live shots

Forgive me
they were delicious
so newsworthy
and so interesting

who was it who bought the firearms? they said they were legally purchased by someone who wasn't the shooter.

― akm, Friday, December 4, 2015 1:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shooter purchased the hand guns. they know who purchased the assault weapons and "want to question him/her," but they haven't said who this person is.

this is still so bizarre

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Ben-Carson-says-California-shootings-end-refugee-6676371.php

Refugee debate is OVER

gun debate, eh we can't have that

family attorney is saying they had no links to terrorism and that coworkers 'made fun of his beard'. this was just on cnn in an infographic though so I don't know if they are actually making this horribly weak ass defense.

someone tell ben carson this woman wasn't a refugee

Doesn't 'refugee' just mean 'somebody from a different country'? </bencarson>

actually it comes from the latin fugee, meaning overrated rap act

ben carson: "you don't have to live like a refugee"

"which I hear is quite nice, actually"

"“There were a lot of questions drawn with Sandy Hook and whether or not that was a real incident or not,” Mr. Chesley told reporters alongside family attorney Mohammad Abuershaid."

oh jesus

who is this chesley fool

also I'm having a hard time buying that the mother lived in the house and didn't notice they had a bomb factory in there. this is all pretty weak sauce.

a fucking sandy hook truther attorney

"the mother lived in the house"
source?

she lived upstairs, they've said this in a few places, I'll try to find one.

here you go:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/The-Latest-Relative-shooter-was-bad-person-6675213.php?cmpid=brknow

"Mohammad Abuershaid and David Chesley, who represent Syed Farook's family, say Farook's wife, Tashfeen Malik, wore a veil that covered her face and didn't drive. The couple opened fire on a holiday party of Farook's co-workers, killing 14 people.
They say Farook's mother lived with the couple but she stayed upstairs and didn't notice they had stockpiled 12 pipe bombs and well over 4,500 rounds of ammunition."

if my mother or mother in law lived with me she'd be so fucking nosey I'd be lucky to hide a sex toy, let alone 4,500 rounds of ammo in my APARTMENT

huh "stayed" upstairs is a bit different than "lived" upstairs fwiw

xp ok thanks hadn't seen that clearly cited before.

"shooter-was-bad-person"

"“There were a lot of questions drawn with Sandy Hook and whether or not that was a real incident or not,” Mr. Chesley told reporters alongside family attorney Mohammad Abuershaid."

oh jesus

― akm, Friday, December 4, 2015 10:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i lost my mind at this

what are the fucking odds of this

yeah the questions were drawn by this guy iirc

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XoGSf2vC6gE/mqdefault.jpg

"shooter-was-bad-person"

― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, December 4, 2015 6:21 PM (3 hours ago)

lol

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/prayer-gun-control-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/418563/

probably one of the dumbest things i've ever read

which part?

the gist of the piece is that it's wrong to criticize politicians for tweeting their meaningless "thoughts and prayers" because prayer used to be a major part of american life and can't we all just get along

Fuck public ostentatious shows of prayer as a substitute for actual reform.

you can criticize politicians all you want for invoking prayer in these situations. they won't stop, because they know it reassures their constituents and there is no political cost for doing it. it only makes sense to mention it in contrast to their lack of any further, more effective actions. if you just criticize the invocation of prayer, you are automatically relegated to the status of a crank.

i'm fully aware that religious folk in the US are so sensitive that if you even remotely associate any type of criticism with the act of prayer they stare at you like you just took a shit in the baptismal font. it's a losing battle - basically to avoid whining from the religious right you just have to let them pray loudly and wildly and stay the fuck out of their way while they do it.

the new Butthurt Xtian film genre that has come out of it has been a non-stop source of lols, though, so there's that (still need to hatewatch God is Not Dead)

Can also be posted in the "American Right Wing" thread: http://gawker.com/right-wing-gun-idolator-erick-erickson-flies-into-a-rag-1746415072

hope the rag is ok

Yeah but there IS now a political cost, and there is now a whole cohort of voting age Americans who will shit in the baptismal font and instagram it for the lolz. The guns & god right is walking into an electoral band saw.

god i hope so

Obama making an address from the Oval Office tomorrow night

i'm not sure guns are really enough of an old vs young issue that we can be sure the problem is going to improve with time

Farook was "fixated" on Israel and supported ISIS' ideology of establishing an Islamic caliphate, his father told an Italian newspaper.

Before the shooting, the younger Farook had expressed some troubling beliefs, his father told La Stampa newspaper.

"He said he shared the ideology of (Abu Bakr) al-Baghdadi to create an Islamic state, and he was fixated on Israel," the elder Farook said, referring to the ISIS leader.

The father, also named Syed Farook, recalled the first time he saw his son with a gun.

"I became angry. In 45 years in the United States, I yelled, 'I have never had a weapon.' He shrugged his shoulders and replied, 'Your loss,' " the father said.

Damn.

headlines were calling these two "terror couple" all morning which of course made me think "kill colonel". they've changed it to 'terror duo' which isn't as fun.

whose headlines?

cnn I think

folie a terror deux