i care about all those things and realize they aren't on a continuous path of improvement. i even have a part time contract job studying things related to that. like here's a graph i made today that charts real weekly earnings of the bottom 10% of workers (horizontal axis) against the share of the income distribution held by people making 200% of the median income (vertical axis) (in Canada)
http://i.imgur.com/jPgU54y.jpg
and yet... i'm still optimistic. sometimes i think focusing too much on the plight of workers in the rich countries misses the forest for the trees. like, have you seen this graph by branko milanovic?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUXukb8WUAA-AHj.jpg:large
so much of the economic anxiety you read about in the guardian or new york times is worrying about people between the 85th and 95th percentiles of global earnings--while people in the lower percentiles have done really good!
i don't wanna get super into this cause last time i came out in favor of modernity on ilx shakey called me an idiot and hurt my feelings, but ya idk i think things are ok
― flopson, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:32 (ten years ago)
that graph above is pretty crazy actually: over the same period the bottom 10% of workers' weekly real wages increased by 15$, the share of total earnings of people who make double median income increased by 6%
― flopson, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)
i'd like to see the version of that graph that uses the same units for both axes (either real earnings by $, or share of total earnings as %)
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:36 (ten years ago)
i can hook you up no problem
― flopson, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)
wait which one, branko's or mine?
last time i came out in favor of modernity on ilx shakey called me an idiot and hurt my feelings
no memory of this, but I apologize for hurtin yr feelings
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)
thank you
xpost yours!
and actually, i guess you can deduce the % just by what's on the graph. if weekly earnings for 10th percentile workers went from 245 to 260, then they increased by...6%? so the weekly wage increased by 6% for both 10th percentile workers and people making 200% of the median income? i'm probably fucking something up.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:41 (ten years ago)
yeah it's a weird graph cause it's levels on one axis and a share on the other, i was inspired by the graph in this blog post http://crookedtimber.org/2015/08/12/up-and-down-left-and-right/ but i don't have gini (and i don't really like gini) so i used high earners' income share. i just finished cleaning the data for this project and that was one of the first graphs i shot out. pretty pumped to dig in
― flopson, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:49 (ten years ago)
i do love a good graph! just wanted to make sure i was interpreting it correctly
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:51 (ten years ago)
can't stand stevie wonder's harmonica
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 December 2015 02:52 (ten years ago)
adult people probably should not care about star wars
― dynamicinterface, Thursday, 10 December 2015 04:10 (ten years ago)
deep dish pizza is good
― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 10 December 2015 05:46 (ten years ago)
I don't care about Star Wars that's for sure.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Thursday, 10 December 2015 06:32 (ten years ago)
Marc Maron is a better comedian than Louis CK
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 10 December 2015 06:37 (ten years ago)
The US Constitution really does guarantee the individual right to own firearms so even though it leads to the deaths of thousands we're stuck with it
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 10 December 2015 06:38 (ten years ago)
Insufficiently controversial tbh.
― Otago Imago (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2015 10:46 (ten years ago)
All of Lindsay Buckingham's songs on Tusk, except for Tusk, are underworked coke-addled sketches that go nowhere. the raspy banjo sound is horrible.
― ledge, Thursday, 10 December 2015 13:55 (ten years ago)
Better.
― Otago Imago (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2015 13:59 (ten years ago)
It say controversial, not scary.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 10 December 2015 15:27 (ten years ago)
Stevie Wonder's harmonica is tolerable. He doesn't use it on every song. DYLAN, on the other hand, should have given the harp a rest more often.
In health care, rationing/death panels are not only good but necessary. I'm down with single-payer health care being provided for all, but you can't get there without triage and rationing. Collectively we pay like a gazillion dollars a day to keep oldsters alive for slightly longer. A fraction of those dollars could be vaccinating children / feeding hungry people for far more long-term benefit. Kill granny. Yes, even mine.
― ready for the raptor (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 December 2015 15:38 (ten years ago)
OTM
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:01 (ten years ago)
Ask me again in 40 years, but I think I would volunteer to live until a certain set age, at which point I'd be "sent to live on a farm". I don't want to be an ornery oldster tenaciously clinging to life out of spite. And having an endpoint in sight would significantly reduce anxiety about when the sweet embrace of death would finally claim my shambling, decrepit shell of a body.
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:08 (ten years ago)
we should have an auction. the highest bidders get to avoid kiling their grannies
― flopson, Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:10 (ten years ago)
you've got it backwards
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:12 (ten years ago)
Their grannies get to kill the highest bidders.
― Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)
'death panels' not overly controversial depending on your country and how often they get referred to as 'death panels'.
― ledge, Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:15 (ten years ago)
'Death panel' sounds awful and it's so misleading. It's not really a panel so much as a giant pit that they throw you into.
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:17 (ten years ago)
Of course they already exist and they're called "insurance companies," but why not get it out in the open?
― ready for the raptor (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:32 (ten years ago)
over here they're called NICE
― ledge, Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:34 (ten years ago)
there should be plenty of money for the government to help old people longer AND help children and impoverished people. but it doesn't work because taxes are evil and when the government helps too many people we teeter on the edge of communism and the apocalypse.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:37 (ten years ago)
Wealth really only has meaning when others are living in the dirt.
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:43 (ten years ago)
just make euthanasia non-taboo idk
― avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:03 (ten years ago)
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this is what makes them so good, though
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:39 (ten years ago)
most stand-up comedy is lame and not very funny
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:26 (ten years ago)
not remotely controversial
― https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Gry91znr8 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:28 (ten years ago)
understatement maybe
definitely
― Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:39 (ten years ago)
I really annoyed a normy with that opinion a few months ago, had some jibe about how I must not have a sense of humour or something stupid.
― Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:40 (ten years ago)
i think even stand-up comedians would agree? my impression is they generate an awful lot of material that gets discarded bc it doesn't work when they try it out on stage.
― Mordy, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:47 (ten years ago)
what's a 'normy'?
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:39 (ten years ago)
https://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/norm3.jpg
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:44 (ten years ago)
a normy is someone who wears nonbranded clothing with solid colors so the world's most hated tech companies can't use algorithms to identify their fashion preferences and sell them to other companies without the normy's knowledge
i think we can all agree on that
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:45 (ten years ago)
http://www.bedlammag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Angus_Black_and_White.jpg
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:47 (ten years ago)
those are norms
normys are people without substance abuse / mental health problems
― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:47 (ten years ago)
I didn't mean that brimstead, I meant "normal" aka dull, though it would also work with that other definition tbh
― Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:59 (ten years ago)
lol brimstead
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 December 2015 20:07 (ten years ago)
there are no conspiracies
― ryan, Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:59 (ten years ago)
Natural rights is simple nonsense: natural and imprescriptible rights, rhetorical nonsense — nonsense upon stilts.
― Humean froth (Sanpaku), Thursday, 10 December 2015 23:26 (ten years ago)
nonsense, when walking on stilts, actually becomes true
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 10 December 2015 23:34 (ten years ago)