We need a thread for the FARGO TV show yah? Oh, yah!

yup

Theres some symbolism bubbling under the surface all over this show that has me real curious. Its easy to miss things - I feel like I need to rewatch the last 2 eps.

What was with the hangman puzzle on the phonebooth Ed was in?
Did you notice how when Ed and Peggy were in the car escaping to the cabin, the splitscreen divided them and their conversation even tho they were in the same space?
What IS with all those alienese symbols?

Ed got hanged in the same episode!

....that did not occur to me, shit!

it's surprising how well Ed handles himself under duress so far (until being hanged).. jesse plemons is good in this series, plays character well

LOL I have just also realised that Ed staring at box of hamburger helper dumbly in the store = him thinking of mincing up Rye.

people of color or ethnicity either ridiculous stereotypes or some sort of weird "othering"

I'll give you and anybody else the point that all the surviving heroes in season 1 and 2 are white folks. However, on the argument that all minority folks are either ridiculous stereotypes or "funny lookin' in a general sense" - have you paid attention to the white people? They're the worst, weirdest people Earth has to offer!

Did you notice how when Ed and Peggy were in the car escaping to the cabin, the splitscreen divided them and their conversation even tho they were in the same space?

They're on different planets during that sequence. Ed is like "we gotta plan. that's what matters." Peg is all fully actualizin' herself.

Hanzee's arbitrary who-dies-who-lives matrix is perhaps a little too obviously descended from Anton Chigurh in NCFOM, imho. That's why I'm hoping somehow he's in cahoots with the space aliens, that would be gratifying, I think

They're on different planets during that sequence.

yeah exactly! The split screen hammered that home nicely. Loved it.

Much as I hate reddit, theres a pretty good set of discussions on the fargo subreddit that are making me wanna go back and rewatch most of S2 again.

Ed got hanged in the same episode!

LOL I have just also realised that Ed staring at box of hamburger helper dumbly in the store = him thinking of mincing up Rye

However, on the argument that all minority folks are either ridiculous stereotypes or "funny lookin' in a general sense" - have you paid attention to the white people? They're the worst, weirdest people Earth has to offer!

Hanzee's arbitrary who-dies-who-lives matrix is perhaps a little too obviously descended from Anton Chigurh in NCFOM, imho.

I read the scene with Hanzee in the convenience store as a direct homage to No Country.

Also a clear Fargo the movie reference in this one with Peggy banging the TV to get reception.

yeah I'm hoping that they don't kill all the POC characters and the white couple get away with everything in the end. That would kind of piss me off.

did anyone else catch the "we're going crazy down there at the lake" reference?!

Yes, which was a lovely excuse to rewatch that scene from the movie.

This episode in the cabin was great. Going into the tv and watching the (Reagan?) war drama, the hanging, masterfully done

yeah, i think that was meant to be the movie ronnie mentioned that he lost when he was talking with our cop friend in the urinal

Season 3 will take place a couple years after the first season, EW has learned exclusively.

“It’s more contemporary,” showrunner Noah Hawley said when asked about the season 3 time period. “It’s set a couple years after season 1.”

Asked if this means some characters from the first season will return (or maybe even we’ll see older versions of characters from season 2), the writer-producer replied, “Potentially.”

The two seasons of Fargo have had entirely different casts, though one key character, Lou Solverson, was played by different actors in both seasons (Keith Carradine in season 1 and Patrick Wilson in season 2). Solverson’s daughter Molly (Allison Tolman) was a main character the first year, and a young minor character this year. Given that those two characters were in both seasons, one would suppose they’re among the most likely to continue in some capacity in season 3. But Hawley has also previously expressed some reluctance to put Molly Solverson through the dramatic wringer again, given her character’s satisfying season 1 arc.

We also asked Hawley if there were any hints about season 3 planted in the current season of Fargo, which FX recently renewed.

“There are going to be connections, the way the first year was connected to the movie and the second year was connected to the first, but I think part of the fun is figuring that stuff out and I wouldn’t want to take that away from anybody,” he said. “There will be definitely things that connect to something in our story.

More Allison Tolman would be awesome, but unlikely since she's signed up to do some sitcom about a talking dog apparently

I'm not sure how I feel about all that.

I guess I feel kind of like Sepinwall does in his recap (hitfix.com) but it was all a bit overstimulating

i wish they hadn't done the narration bit but otherwise the playing field seems mostly set. weird that was all so surprisingly anticlimactic.
as for the flying saucer...

flying saucer would have been absurd if it wasn't so clearly planned from the very beginning. narration was a bit wes anderson but it worked for me for whatever reason. there was some A+ violence in this episode. I hope Sam from CHeers doesn't die though.

also liked how Milligan shows up, looks around, gets back in his car and leaves.

Show has great tone but the native deciding what he does with no explanation is just ... Lazy writing and unfulfilling

we still may find out?
it was a good episode – but i feel like i should have liked that episode more than i did.
i feel like the style has shifted from Tarantino to more of a Guy Ritchie vibe.

and i don't think ** SPOILERS ** Hanzee killing Floyd Gerhardt was anticlimactic. i kind of jumped from my seat when that happened.

and ya – Mike's reaction was great... "Ok then." *leaves*

after the escape/hangman/haircut/shootout sequence, almost anything is anticlimactic

I also liked how "OK then" was set up from the beginning of the show so that Milligan's iteration of it is doing two things at once

I didn't like this episode. martin freeman voiceover means that he's responsible for my least favourite aspects of both seasons now. I guess all the ufo stuff theyd been putting in had to be a Chekhov's gun? but I basically hated it. not really sure why big beardy Gerhardt went after lou solverson in a murderous rage after hanzee killed his mother, rather than, you know, trying to get the guy who had just murdered his mother?

wondered that too.

Because Lou had just shot him in the head.

i thought that was hanzee who shot him in the ear? im confused.

no it was lou.

I didn't even realize that was Freeman. Also I like Freeman unlike apparently everyone else.

but the native deciding what he does with no explanation is just ... Lazy writing and unfulfilling

p sure the show has given us plenty of reasons to surmise why he might be doing these things.

they even had a small montage of possible things that have pissed him off in this episode!

no it was lou.

I didn't even realize that was Freeman. Also I like Freeman unlike apparently everyone else.

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I like Freeman, just thought his accent in the first season was terrible - which is normal for brits doing North American accents tbf - and I wasn't into the framing device/voiceover in this episode.

Awesome episode, UFO and all. Bit confused with what happened with Lous wife tho? After she fell, and Molly found her, they sort of left it at that. I guess that'llcome up next week.

Yah

Molly went to get Noreen (the existentialist) and they all drove to the hospital.

fifty bucks says Hank and his daughter wake up in the same room together as inpatients

Ha, that'd be neat.

Yeah, no bet

the split screen with Wilson and Milioti was so well done

This show uses split screen and wipe edits better than any post 80's movie I can think of (hedging my bets for Kurosawa)

Mike Milligan on showing up at the motor motel:

http://i.imgur.com/XujHL.gif?noredirect

Ive been reading other commentary on this last ep, on TV.com, reddit and other places, and it is making me cranky how many people hated/were unpleasantly surprised by the UFO in the shootout. Its as if they forgot all the foreshadowing, or the whole damn reason the story kicked off (Rye being distracted by a UFO).

The last ep tonight is called Palindrome. One of the things not ever really explained til now is why that judge in ep1 was there. I'm wondering if somehow something'll come full circle to the start.

why the judge was in the restaurant or why he judge was targeted by rye? the latter is directly explained in episode one.