The longest, freakiest conspiracy email yet. MUST READ! Opinions please!

By the way, pulling up a NYT article on the Durban conference which everybody already knows about doesn't do anything to legitimize anything else in the article. But the fact that I have to point this out to you goes along way to explaining why arguing with you is pointless.

If you think I'm going to sit here and try to present evidence that there is a jewish conspiracy, I'm afraid you're in for a long wait, my friend. I am able to differentiate between interesting facts and uninteresting conjecture.

This is an absolutely true fact, isn't it? As I said, the intro and the endtro of the conspiracy are mostly factual and the outcome of 911 looks oddly beneficial to the US in freaky ways that make me go... "OOOOH SPOOOKY!"

Wait for what, moron? You already did present "evidence that there is a jewish(sic) conspiracy" when you posted the e-mail as "must-read", "pretty realistic", having "true insights", etc. The whole point of that article is to imply that there was a Jewish conspiracy behind the bombing of the WTC. You can back-pedal now, but you laid a big stinking turd of hate-filled propaganda on the board as if it was the best thing since sliced bread and then lashed out at anyone who challenged you on it.

The "true insights" are the facts prior and after 911, "pretty realistic" refers to the Twin Towers destruction seeming UNREALISTIC the way it went down. It seems "pretty realistic" that there was more to it than what has now become common belief.

However, "pretty realistic" does not mean "entirely realistic" and I could easily believe that CNN has pretty much told the whole truth, as well.

I mean, christ, the equiv. would be for a vietnamese person to say -- "hey, you're white, that whole war and destruction of our country was your fault."

Those are the only two points I even contested because they are part of what I thought was interesting and factual. I have no problem with the comment that JFK wasn't assassinated in the name of Israel or that this conspiracy "feels" antisemetic.

Fact is, jackass, there hasn't been any further challenges EXCEPT these two facts, which are facts.

It's a lot easier to toss out red herrings than to explain why you felt it was so important that everyone read an article that argues, among other things, that the Mossad-controlled Kennedy-killing CIA bombed the WTC in order to hasten the arrival of the One World Government. Or why you've twice supplied ILM with anti-Semetic screeds and told us all that they were fascinating must-read material.

So if my next album, a dismal and gloomy opus, sells a million copies because the world has post-WTC blues, I become the new number one terror suspect? Makes sense...

It works for Enron, but I'm not so sure it work for someone staffed in the mail department at Enron who made an Enron blues album.

'our mission...

American Freedom Net, Inc. provides the American people with an alternative source of information free from the propaganda and liberal bias of the national television network newscasts.  Proudly proclaiming our constitutional right to freedom of the press, American Freedom Net, Inc. is an independent news network dedicated to exposing corruption, foreign intelligence espionage, government tyranny, unconstitutional laws and regulations, socialism, political correctness, media bias, political propaganda, the erosion of American sovereignty and UN global governance.

our purpose...

American Freedom Net, Inc. is dedicated to upholding the noble Christian and patriotic heritage of our honorable Founding Fathers of the United States of America.  As a news reporting organization, we zealously guard the historic roots of this great nation under God.  We affirm our commitment to the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution of the United States of America.  We believe our rights come from God - not government.  We believe it is the duty and responsibility of all citizens to safeguard our freedoms and liberties from all forms of tyranny - including the tyranny of a national news media that has made an alliance with national and international political and corporate interests to abolish the sovereignty of the USA and force Old Glory to bow to a global governmental system based in the United States.

I agree that some guy has got ahold of a whole bunch of facts and factoids and created a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories generally have a conspiratorial spin on them. This email made me consider the possibility that the USA had a lot to gain from this war; strengthening ties with allies and destroying a common enemy, monetary gains, shuffling old problems under the carpet, etc. If anything, to me, this just read as an international governmental conspiracy, not a "Jews are ruining the earth conspiracy". But, that could be simply because I disregard that sort of thinking as idiotic. Governments aren't very trustworthy- that much is true. But, it's quite another thing to believe you can't trust "the jews".

I got this email because I have a hotmail account that apparantly belonged to someone named "Corey" at one point and I get about 80 spams in 2 or 3 days. I actually read this one because it's subject was "911, very interesting reading".

Fritz, thank you very much for saying that. That took a heapload of weight off my chest. Honestly, I blazed through the middle of that email the first time (the part about JFK didn't even stick to my ribs, as I'm sick to death of that conspiracy). I should have put a disclaimer at the beginning, but I thought we would all see this email for what it was and people would proceed into interesting point/counterpoint arguments about what is actually factual in the post. I really didn't think we'd get stuck on this antisemetic bent and I apologize to anyone who believes I am not sympathetic to this.

As for previous "antisemetic" posts I've been accused of making, this was in regards to an anti-RELIGION (all sorts) website. Ethan went to the website, found a page about zionist ethnic cleansing and offered it as proof that I was an antisemite. The website, in fact, was attacking all religions based on their cultural history and faulty scripture, fault beliefs, faulty leaders that lead to crimes against humanity.

I'm not a Christian right-winger or a bigot in the least bit.

In Queens, where I live, I've overheard all kinds of conversations from all sorts of people (not Muslims) that will murmur about how they feel the US bombed it's own buildings. I've heard it getting my hair cut, in a bar, at a diner, in a bagelry. It really made me mad each time, because shortly after 911 I really was convinced it was Bin Laden and Al Quaida and that these people just found it more exciting to be contrary and suspicious.

I am still fairly convinced, but I can also see this whole thing as some sort of set-up. What's scary about it to me is that things seem to have been set in motion for a NWO big brother planet. I am NOT scared that Jews are taking over the earth!!

Some of the things I'm talking about were presented in the email (i.e. new laws further infringing on our rights and internet rights), but also just weird things like implant ID chips with global satellite tracking systems that are supposed to prevent terrorism, nationwide banks have been loosening regulations to prevent illegal aliens from setting up accounts for some reason in the past 4 years, the eurodollar is invented. I know it's out there stuff that I shouldn't be overly-concerned with, but if I think about it from a different perspective, I realize that the world really is getting smaller and smaller. I can see a NWO actually happening in the next century and all the events that caused it will seem less coincidental as time marches on and the history books take one perspective on these issues. The winner gets to write the history books, right? Most believe what's "commonly believed", leaving those with contrary viewpoints to hang out with the Moonies and the loonies. I think a lot of people believe JFK was assassinated by our gov't, but most everyone else is content to think they're weirdos.

i still think if you'd taken ten minutes to format it and make yr position clearer at the outset then you might have got a bit quicker to the discussion YOU wanted to have about it, and not have to wade through ppl guessing

the channel four doc abt the structural reasons for the collapse of the WTC was very detailed and interesting. it felt like a britmade programme so maybe it hasn't shown in the US...

Oh well, it would be nice if anyone had any further thoughts regarding 911, but I'm doubting this thread has much of a future. Sorry for the upset.

Would anyone like to talk about 911 as a conspiracy and the probabilities of each of the (quite possibly) unrelated coincidences? We could really go beyond this antisemetism thing if we tried.

NWO theories fall at the same fence, don't they?: is the US govt already secretly on board and enthusiastically for an NWO, or is it being blackmailed/tricked/bludgeoned into NWO-land against its will... because some of the evidence "points" one way and some the other, but the two cancel each other out.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

Yeah, it's not much different than fashion judgements. It takes a little bit of thought to get this line of reasoning. I don't expect you'll "get it" anytime soon. Tell ya what, research "genius". You'll soon discover you ain't one regardeless of what that fop of a rag, the Voice, has to say regarding your lameass art.

Certain people here know precisely who I am. Nude Spock is very knowable, in fact. Ask around. I've received big fancy awards for being this prick. Ned?