The Coddling Of The American Mind (Trigger Warning Article In The Atlantic...)

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CLearly whatever I'm trying to say, I'm not saying well, which is a common failing of mine, so I'll drop it.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Saturday, 14 November 2015 18:37 (ten years ago)

I noticed that the NY Times and Breitbart are trying to slander activists by claiming they wanted their struggle to be more important than the events in Paris. They used two anonymous accounts and one who said the opposite to prove this.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 15 November 2015 18:09 (ten years ago)

They made it to the top of /r/news regardless.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 15 November 2015 18:10 (ten years ago)

the "new york times" said this, eh?

k3vin k., Sunday, 15 November 2015 18:12 (ten years ago)

ilxor admrl was in that library when that picture was taken. naked and high on acid. okay, maybe not. but he could give us an eyewitness report if he still posted here. my next door neighbor was there too.

scott seward, Sunday, 15 November 2015 18:12 (ten years ago)

Sorry, meant the Washington Times - been a long weekend, Kev.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:13 (ten years ago)

My alma mater sent out an e-mail this weekend:

November 15, 2015

Dear Students, Faculty, Staff, Alumni, and Families,

On Thursday night I attended a student-organized protest against racism and other entrenched forms of prejudice and inequality. The sit-in was held in Frost Library. It had started Thursday at 1 p.m. and there were several hundred people from all parts of the campus in Frost when I arrived from out of town. The gathering of students continued throughout the day on Friday and into the evening and through the night. Students have continued to gather through the weekend.

Over the course of several days, a significant number of students have spoken eloquently and movingly about their experiences of racism and prejudice on and off campus. The depth and intensity of their pain and exhaustion are evident. That pain is real. Their expressions of loneliness and sense of invisibility are heartrending. No attempt to minimize or trivialize those feelings will be convincing to those of us who have listened. It is good that our students have seized this opportunity to speak, rather than further internalizing the isolation and lack of caring they have described. What we have heard requires a concerted, rigorous, and sustained response.

The organizers of the protests also presented me with a list of demands on Thursday evening. While expressing support for their goals, I explained that the formulation of those demands assumed more authority and control than a president has or should have. The forms of distributed authority and shared governance that are integral to our educational institutions require consultation and thoughtful collaboration. When I met yesterday in my office with a small group of student organizers, I explained that I did not intend to respond to the demands item by item, or to meet each demand as specified, but instead to write a statement that would be responsive to the spirit of what they are trying to achieve--systemic changes that we know we need to make. I also talked about why apologies of the sort that were demanded would be misleading, if not downright dishonest, suggesting, as they implicitly would, that I or the College could make guarantees about things that are much larger than a single institution or group of people. Reacting immediately to strict timetables and ultimatums and speaking in the names of other people and for all times would be a failure to take our students seriously. I was asked to read this statement to students today in Frost Library and did so at noon.

Our students' activism is part of a national movement of students who are devoted to bringing about much-needed change. They are exercising a fundamental American right to freedom of speech and protest. Student protesters at Amherst have been threatened on social media with physical violence. The College police are, as always, doing their job of keeping the campus safe. And the administration will ensure that no students, faculty, or staff members are subject to retaliation for taking advantage of their right to protest.

Amherst has committed itself to equal opportunity for the most talented students from all socio-economic circumstances. That commitment involves more than assembling a diverse population of students. It includes a duty to provide a learning environment that is equally welcoming to all our students and one that is supportive of all students, faculty, and staff. When staff and faculty of color leave Amherst because they do not have faith that they can thrive here, it is a serious loss for our students and for the campus as a whole, and requires greater attention to the conditions and cultures we need to change or to create.

The College also has a foundational and inviolable duty to promote free inquiry and expression, and our commitment to them must be unshakeable if we are to remain a college worthy of the name. The commitments to freedom of inquiry and expression and to inclusivity are not mutually exclusive, in principle, but they can and do come into conflict with one another. Honoring both is the challenge we have to meet together, as a community. It is a challenge that all of higher education needs to meet.

Those who have immediately accused students in Frost of threatening freedom of speech or of making speech "the victim" are making hasty judgments. While those accusations are also legitimate forms of free expression, their timing can seem, ironically, to be aimed at inhibiting the speech of those who have struggled and now succeeded in making their stories known on campus. The shredding and removal overnight of protesters' postings, which were reported to me this morning, is, on the other hand, unacceptable behavior according to the student Honor Code.

Student protesters themselves are engaged in serious conversations about the importance of free speech and have asked themselves questions about uses of language that respect that freedom. They are also asking themselves and us how the College protects free expression while also upholding our anti-discrimination policies and our statement of Respect for Persons. Censorship and silencing are not the answer. I believe our students know that. It takes time, attention, and serious discussion to sort out and make clear how we protect free speech while also establishing norms within our communities that encourage respect and make us responsible for what we do with our freedom. That is the discussion we need to have. It must involve all members of the community--students, faculty, staff, alumni--and it must be the kind of discussion that reflects the traditions of Amherst and a liberal arts education at its best.

We agree with the students that racism and other deeply entrenched forms of prejudice and inequality continue to affect our institutions and our culture as a whole. And we acknowledge that our efforts to achieve a more inclusive and egalitarian environment are insufficient. I could not be sadder about the pain that many of our students are feeling or more determined to meet their demand for change. We are committed not only to continuing the efforts we are already making, but also to stepping up the work that needs to be done in order to:

1) build a more diverse staff and faculty, with more aggressive recruitment and effective hiring and retention strategies;

2) support our faculty as they develop innovative ways of teaching our students;

3) ensure that faculty, staff, and students have opportunities and incentives to develop their analysis and understanding of the issues our students are raising;

4) acknowledge and support the work done by those staff and faculty who are primary sources of support for low-income students and students of color;

5) consider what messages our symbols send;

6) provide more opportunities for conversation, collaboration, and shared responsibility in the classroom and in residential life for students from different backgrounds;

7) make sure that students, staff, and faculty find a mix of physical spaces and opportunities for social interaction, some of which will provide comfort and familiarity and others of which will put us in a position that challenges us and guarantees our growth; and

8) as we did in response to disclosures about sexual assault and the College's handling of it, establish a multi-constituency committee charged with studying issues of race and racial injury and making recommendations to the administration and the Board of Trustees.

This is a list of some, but not all of what we want to do.

What is going on at Amherst right now is not at odds with our educational mission or an aberration from its course. It is part of a struggle in the direction of greater awareness, understanding, and freedom from ignorance, prejudice, and narrow ideologies. On urgent questions ranging from race to gender to war and peace, members of the Amherst community have been deeply engaged for as long as there has been such a community. The complexity of the issues is challenging, yes, but also energizing at institutions like Amherst--which is certainly flawed, as any human institution is. Like other colleges and universities, however, Amherst is also openly committed to getting better at what we do, for our students, for the larger society, and for the generations to come.

Sincerely,

Biddy Martin

Students have tried to drop Lord Jeff as the school’s mascot for decades. It’s even a topic on the school’s FAQ:

4. I've heard that Lord Jeffery Amherst distributed smallpox-infected blankets to the Indians during the French and Indian War. True?

In the summer of 1763, attacks by Native Americans against colonists on the western frontier seriously challenged British military control. In a letter to Colonel Henry Bouquet dated July 7, 1763, Amherst writes "Could it not be contrived to send the Small Pox among those disaffected tribes of Indians?" In a later letter to Bouquet Amherst repeats the idea: "You will do well to try to inoculate the Indians by means of blankets, as well as to try every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable race." There is evidence that the Captain at Fort Pitt (outside Pittsburgh, PA -- then the western frontier) did give two infected blankets and one infected handkerchief to Indians in June of 1763. This action happened before Amherst mentioned the idea in his correspondence. It is also highly unlikely that the tactic caused any infection.

It is accurate to say that Lord Jeffery Amherst advocated biological warfare against Indians, but there is no evidence that any infected blankets were distributed at his command. For more about Lord Jeffery Amherst's military career, see Professor Kevin Sweeney's article "The Very Model of a Modern Major General." For a detailed examination of Amherst's role in the Fort Pitt smallpox episode, see "The British, the Indians, and Smallpox: What Actually Happened at Fort Pitt in 1763?" by Philip Ranlet.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 16 November 2015 14:32 (ten years ago)

The True? in that question is hilarious.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 16 November 2015 14:35 (ten years ago)

"It's ok, he only WANTED them dead"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 16 November 2015 16:33 (ten years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/nyregion/yale-college-dean-torn-by-racial-protests.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

The bespectacled dean has lost five pounds since the campus erupted in a series of rallies and demonstrations this month, and the student activism shows few signs of waning.

j., Monday, 16 November 2015 19:12 (ten years ago)

crusty old dean

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:14 (ten years ago)

good weight-loss program then

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:15 (ten years ago)

so the combined presidents of the thirtysome universities and colleges in my state system just sent around a joint letter, evidently unsolicited, extolling the recipients - maybe as inclusive as all students, faculty, and staff throughout the entire system, which would be thousands - to combat racism by listening better and acting with urgency.

tryin to get out in front of this thing i guess

j., Monday, 16 November 2015 19:35 (ten years ago)

my (public) university's chancellor sent out a similar email, only she unfortunately also wrote that nobody on campus was "entitled" to make remarks that belittled or demeaned others. which is like... uh... depends on what you mean by "entitled."

fuckin bureaucrats.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:39 (ten years ago)

lol if my school called me untitled i would be like gtfo give me back my tuition then jerks

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:40 (ten years ago)

entitled lol

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:40 (ten years ago)

it's true that we're not untitled, either.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:41 (ten years ago)

this entire things seems like speech policing of speech policing of speech policing. a never ending void of critical thinking. just reactions going off in a chain.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:41 (ten years ago)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Serpiente_alquimica.jpg

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:42 (ten years ago)

in the middle is "respect". outside the circle is "cannibalism"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:42 (ten years ago)

We got our letter from our vp of student affairs on Friday.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:48 (ten years ago)

the weird thing is, it's really not that heard to pen a letter that

1) recommends civility and dialogue

2) upholds the principle of free speech

and yet somehow administrators seem to have trouble with this over and over again.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:56 (ten years ago)

The American non-profit professional class is pretty much a wasteland these days.

Three Word Username, Monday, 16 November 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)

That's an interesting statement. Why?

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 November 2015 22:36 (ten years ago)

Largely a function of boards composed primarily of rich conservative philanthropists making the hiring decisions. In the arts, education, and charity, there's a growing non-profit management class that is aimed primarily at keeping those boards happy, and those boards know for-profit business methods and communication and like to see donations and grants rolling in. And those skills aren't generally the same skills you would want to keep a community of learning thriving, you know?

Three Word Username, Monday, 16 November 2015 22:45 (ten years ago)

cf unc

balls, Monday, 16 November 2015 23:19 (ten years ago)

https://twitter.com/hidden_dores/status/666372394198671361

vanderbilt list of student demands to admin

j., Tuesday, 17 November 2015 02:49 (ten years ago)

http://www.thedemands.org/

j., Tuesday, 17 November 2015 14:45 (ten years ago)

From Amherst's list:

5. President Martin must issue a statement to the Amherst College community at large that states we do not tolerate the actions of student(s) who posted the “All Lives Matter” posters, and the “Free Speech” postersthat stated that “in memoriam of the true victim of the Missouri Protests: Free Speech.” Also let the student body know that it was racially insensitive to the students of color on our college campus and beyond who are victim to racial harassment and death threats; alert them that Student Affairs may require them to go through the Disciplinary Process if a formal complaint is filed, and that they will be required to attend extensive training for racial and cultural competency.

Love those last 13 words.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:10 (ten years ago)

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~felluga/foucault.jpeg

ryan, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:21 (ten years ago)

^^ much cooler, though perhaps less representative, than the ruler gracing the current cover.

ryan, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:22 (ten years ago)

http://jezebel.com/we-need-yale-to-choose-us-inside-the-racial-tensions-o-1742070334

j., Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:33 (ten years ago)

In the room, students openly grieved, sobbed, and shared stories with faculty, hoping for answers about their school’s apparent failure to provide a safe environment for minority students. At the head of the table were Holloway, Salovey and his Chief of Staff Joy McGrath, and Yale Secretary and Vice President for Student Life Kimberly M. Goff-Crews. According to Barlowe, emotions were one-sided. And this, she says, was the precise problem—that after multiple accusations, complaints and petitions about racist incidents, it took a sit-down meeting for administrators to listen, and that even the students’ discernible pain in the room sparked no visceral empathy.

“People were having breakdowns in this room. People were out of control of their bodies,” says Barlowe. “There were accounts of really deep trauma and pain, everything from outright racism to micro-aggressions to discrimination and also feelings of invisibility. And the administrators were not emotional at all, which was part of what was strange and difficult for us. They were calling on people as if we were having a regular meeting.”

j., Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:34 (ten years ago)

they should all do mushrooms together

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:37 (ten years ago)

Grown-ups are scawwy.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:41 (ten years ago)

jeez it's like a church revival. did any of the kids start speaking latin?

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:42 (ten years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7rFYbMhcG8

hunangarage, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:47 (ten years ago)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-new-intolerance-of-student-activism-at-yale/414810/

Shaming college students is turning out to be quite the career opportunity for several Atlantic writers! Thanks for making the world a better place, guys.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)

And yes in case you were wondering quotes the titular article. A human centipede of tsk tsk

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:49 (ten years ago)

The crap at the Atlantic is maddening to me, because it's so hysterical and sloppy and reactionary. There is a whole lot that I find threatening and difficult and worthy of criticism in the language and methods used by the protesters, particularly at Yale -- the "you aren't crying, WHY AREN'T YOU CRYING; YOU MUST UNDERSTAND AND YOU MUST APOLOGIZE AND CRY OR YOU MUST GO" shit -- but the backlash has been so much in the nature of "this is what THEY do, look at 'em, ingrates, can you believe we let THEM go to college" that there's not much change that nuanced (there's that word again) criticism of language and style could ever be taken seriously.

The future sucks and we are all gonna die, one way or the other.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:05 (ten years ago)

Thinking how "kum-bye-ya" turned into a punchline to mock peace activism and its principles and its more faddish aspects, and how we're seeing something similar with "safe space" et al.

my harp and me (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:13 (ten years ago)

in case you wanted to read more articles that do little to try to comprehend the perspective of protesters:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/16/brown-students-poisonous-uprising-against-their-president.html

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:19 (ten years ago)

that url makes it all the more unfortunate

welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:20 (ten years ago)

yes, it does

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:21 (ten years ago)

there is a lot of hooha in the air. young peoples are an easy target. it'll go away. occupy went away. remember all the hooha about that? remember something something seattle world bank imf something something? i think it would be great if students made some positive changes on campus while they are there though. they should try at least. before they go work for google.

i looked it up and over 25% of college undergraduates have children of their own. something tells me a lot of those students aren't coddled. or have time for a lot of this. but if the people who have time to fight make some positive changes, maybe it can help everyone.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:45 (ten years ago)

The student proceeded to criticize Paxson’s proposal for change, though he admitted he hadn’t actually read it. “I haven’t seen it, but I’m going to make the not very far logical leap it doesn’t address the issues at all,” he said.

i think a good thing about the very urgent, measured, and specific demands being made of all these institutions is that they anticipate this cynical response in the right way and step around it by giving the institutions explicit, specific ways in which to fail. they can already expect that responses are not going to address their issues, but they're forcing the institutions to either fail in specific ways for which they can be held accountable, or to respond quickly rather than via glacial institutional processes to be determined by their logic and priorities.

j., Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:46 (ten years ago)

My wife and I were discussing the dismissal of the students mounting these protests as "entitled" and we were both annoyed that no one seems to think that having students of color who feel entitled to recognition and redress for situations that they find intolerable is actually a positive advancement for how students of color view themselves in America.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:08 (ten years ago)

college kids can be powerful. they don't have soul-crushing jobs yet and they are young and strong. that's why i loved seeing that football team get in on the action.

djp, didn't you go to harvard? i can't remember if you've ever talked about what it was like for you there when you went. my brother-in-law quit the harvard baskeball team because of racism. he was one of the only black players at that time. early 80's. he had a miserable experience on the team.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:21 (ten years ago)


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