HEY JEWS

Also: how much hebrew vs. english at your seder?

I never understood why anything other than unleavened bread is necessary though? I mean no bread as a symbol/reminder of events passed makes sense, keeping kosher out of respect for the period I can see, but, like not being allowed to eat corn? What's up with that?

um are you unfamiliar with the passover story or what

oh snap

During Passover, Jews refrain from eating chometz: anything that contains barley, wheat, rye, oats, and spelt, and is not cooked within 18 minutes after coming in contact with water. No leavening is allowed. This signifies the fact that the Hebrews had no time to let their bread rise as they made a hurried escape from Egypt.
Jews of different backgrounds do not observe all of the same rules. Ashkenazi Jews, who come from Europe (most Jews in America), also avoid corn, rice, peanuts, and legumes as they are also used to make bread and may have other grains mixed in. These items are known as kitniyot.

I thought it was anything that swells in contact with water? Or something like that. No corn syrup, in any case, which gives us delicious REAL SUGAR COKE.

The Torah instructs a Jew not to eat (or even possess) chometz all seven days of Passover (Exodus 13:3). "Chometz" is defined as any of the five grains (wheat, spelt, barley, oats, and rye) that came into contact with water for more than 18 minutes. This is a serious Torah prohibition, and for that reason we take extra protective measures on Passover to prevent any mistakes.

Which brings us to another category of food called "kitniyot" (sometimes referred to generically as "legumes"). This includes rice, corn, soy beans, string beans, peas, lentils, peanuts, mustard, sesame seeds and poppy seeds. Even though kitniyot cannot technically become chometz, Ashkenazi Jews do not eat them on Passover. Why?

The Smak (Rabbi Moshe of Kouchi, 13th century, France) explains that products of kitniyot appear like chometz products. For example, it can be hard to distinguish between rice flour (kitniyot) and wheat flour (chometz). Therefore, to prevent confusion, all kitniyot was prohibited.

I'm throwing myself in with the Sephardic camp this year.

Take a Hot Dog
and make it Kosher

Oh makes more sense, and yes, I know the story, but I'm wondering why go so much further than just bread, I mean, Matzah is just unleavened bread, still has wheat in it and all, it's not like they didn't have enough time to cook pasta when escaping Egypt.

Keep hearing the spoken intro to "One Step Beyond" when I see this thread title.

Which is to say, eating corn is a long ways away from letting bread rise.

Keep hearing the spoken intro to "One Step Beyond" when I see this thread title.

Don't eat that - EAT THIS

passover is a great holiday.
G R E A T

BUT, the Haggadahs have not arrived in the mail from my grandfather yet and I'm also getting a bit nervous about seating... also, anyone have a good veggie matzoh ball soup recipe? vegetarians certainly won't eat teh brisket.

good god how do vegetarians ever survive during Passover without the grains?

apparently quinoa is ok.

good to qui-know-a

Seven days of quinoa and matzah sounds . . . constipating.

Can we turn this thread also into a list of all of the awesome things about being jewish in general?

1. Chosen people.
2. Latkes

3. Talmud

4. hot sabbath sex

5. Neuroses

6. control of the media/money

good god how do vegetarians ever survive during Passover without the grains?

― quincie, Monday, April 6, 2009 11:58 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This may explain my increased secularism that started around the time I became vegetarian.

6. Noodle kugel

7. Tikkun olam as commandment

7. anything heimische...

8. Lady rabbis (in non-Orthodox movements)

9. All our base

Tikkun olam is my favorite part of Judaism ever. Concept and metaphor equally awesome.

The Golders Green and St. Louis Park eruvs.

10. sense of humor

what's the deal with "rabbi jose" btw

11. Woody Allen movies

vicky cristina barcelona?

12. Tongue (not explicitly Jewish I know)

no thx
http://www.bangitout.com/uploads/32genesimmons.jpg

13. Philip Roth
14. Having an entire holiday dedicated to alcohol (Purim)
15. Klezmer

14. Having an entire holiday dedicated to alcohol (Purim)

^^^this

13. Philip David Lee Roth

fixed

Today there's a blessing you can make on the sun that can only be made like once every 25 years. That's pretty cool.

Yeah, klezmer wildly OTM but I find Roth totally 100% repellent.

according to the brooklyn paper this is only the 3rd time in history that the sun is in the same position during passover that it was when it was first created

^^^^ awesome

going to an orthodox seder as a favor to moms, not looking forward to it (mostly because it goes well past midnight, is an hour and a half away, and i have to work in the morning)

One sucky thing about being Jewish: Often (like this Passover), the two days of Chag run into Shabbat, which means that observant Jews (including my family) will be keeping three days straight of no electricity and such. Almost everyone always secretly cheats around the second day to take showers.

You can take a shower, I thought, you just can't dry off? What if you stood with your arms out until you air dried?

Or put on a big fluffy bathrobe?

my dad is currently trying to make me feel guilty for not going to a sedar

according to the brooklyn paper this is only the 3rd time in history that the sun is in the same position during passover that it was when it was first created

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, April 6, 2009

you and i both know that there is no significance whatsoever to this, though. i read it in the paper.

Hate to bring down the sameach. Bondi Beach shooting is really weighing on me. I'm going to go to my town's menorah lighting tomorrow even though I don't normally. A bunch of non-Jewish locals made nice supportive posts on fb and encouraged others to go and it was appreciated.

So ugly, so callous. I hope our Jewish communities feel loved in the aftermath of such hatred.

it's totally brutal

Much gratitude and respect for Ahmed al-Ahmad, whose actions stopped one of the two shooters

I was really worried watching that clip he was going to hold the gun for a bit too long and be mistaken for a shooter

Sadly the disarmed attacker just ran back and picked up another gun.

Apparently the gunmen were father and son?

I live not far from Bondi. Heard the helicopters all evening transporting people to hospitals. Horrific. That footbridge they were shooting from I must have walked over a hundred times.

It seems strange to me they were able to shoot for 10 minutes uninterrupted. Bondi is well known as a place where lots of Jewish people live, and the beach is iconic, so you'd have thought an obvious target. Wouldn't an open air Jewish event have had lots of police already on the ground and ready to intervene?

Gun violence is far less prevalent in Australia than the USA. But that's also true in about 95% of the countries on earth.

wild to me (an Australian) that this dipshit was on the radar of anti-terrorism investigators yet nobody thought it potentially uncool that his father had six fuckin long range rifles

yeah that part, particularly in a country with such strict gun laws, is pretty flummoxing

Gun violence is far less prevalent in Australia than the USA. But that's also true in about 95% of the countries on earth.

If this is intended to be reassuring to locals before the death count is finalised on the second-largest mass shooting in the history of the country, but is definitely more than double the previous largest in the city — 34 years ago — I promise that it is as misjudged as it is irrelevant.

Gun violence is far less prevalent in Australia than the USA. But that's also true in about 95% of the countries on earth.

Gun violence is far less prevalent in Australia than the USA. But that's also true in about 95% of the countries on earth.

This isn’t very comforting in the wake of a fucking hate crime btw

guys, Aimless was commenting on Zelda's post as to why there wasn't more security at the event, not minimizing it

You must have missed the part of Zelda’s post that that began “I live not far from Bondi.” I believe sic is also Australian. What an American thinks they have to offer in that context is unknown.

i live in sydney too and the post seems clearly well-intentioned and not trying to make light of anything

I think the fact that it is a targeted hate crime matters more than the way in which it was done. Especially in this thread. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You must have missed the part of Zelda’s post that that began “I live not far from Bondi.” I believe sic is also Australian. What an American thinks they have to offer in that context is unknown.

I didn't miss anything, and am not saying Aimless's analysis of why there weren't more security measures is correct or incorrect. I just pointed out that that is what that was, not an attempt to comfort or reassure.

guys, Aimless was commenting on Zelda's post as to why there wasn't more security at the event

what does anything at all about the USA have to do with Zelda’s post

Countries with lower gun violence are less likely to have safety measures in place, was the argument as I read it.

what does anything at all about other countries have to do with Zelda’s post

For that matter, this stuff probably should be discussed in a different thread. Maybe even the shooting spree thread.

speculation about gun violence, the effects of having stricter vs looser gun laws, what police presence was or should have been all seem kind of irrelevant to me tbh. I'm not an expert in gun statistics or event security. I have seen anecdotal complaints from Sydney area residents about antisemitic threats and rhetoric being downplayed or ignored. Hard for me to evaluate any of that either. Whole thing just makes me sick and I don't really have a takeaway from it.

So many people jumping to conclusions. Right-wing american Jew Bob Lefsetz (who gets mocked on ILM for his music industry comments) is blaming the American left and college student protestors and Countries saying Palestine should be recognized as a nation for Australia, while I see on Haaretz that the Israeli government is busy investigating what they are calling an Iranian involvement.

TBQH it seems very clear that it was antisemitic Muslim extremists, that's not really a hard conclusion to jump to. Anything else is more evidence needed. Iran backing attacks on Jews is not exactly unprecedented. If you want to talk about jumping to conclusions, you might also highlight Iranian state media pushing the narrative that this was a false flag.