The Coddling Of The American Mind (Trigger Warning Article In The Atlantic...)

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apparently she built a career off being the nation's foremost scholar on twilight fandom

Click, M. A., Aubrey, J. S., and Behm-Morawitz, E. (Eds.). (2010). Bitten by Twilight: Youth culture, media, and the vampire franchise. New York: Peter Lang.

Behm-Morawitz, E., Click, M. A., and Aubrey, J. S. (2010). “Relating to Twilight: Fans' Responses to Love and Romance in the Vampire Franchise.” In M. A. Click, J. S. Aubrey & E. Behm- Morawitz (Eds). Bitten by Twilight: Youth culture, media, and the vampire franchise. New York: Peter Lang.

Aubrey, J. S., Walus, S., and Click, M. A. (2010). “Twilight and the Production of the 21 st Century Teen Idol.” In M. A. Click, J. S. Aubrey & E. Behm-Morawitz (Eds). Bitten by Twilight: Youth culture, media, and vampire franchise. New York: Peter Lang.

Aubrey, J. S ., Behm-Morawitz, E ., & Click, M. A. (2010). The romanticization of abstinence: Fan response to sexual restraint in the Twilight series. Transformative Works and Cultures, 5. doi:10.3983/twc.2010.0216. http://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/216/184

iatee, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:54 (ten years ago)

xpost

er, i mean no /doubt/ receiving

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and i really don't think her academic interests are at all relevant here.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:55 (ten years ago)

those papers each required 3 authors

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:56 (ten years ago)

now you're just being snotty

i have no personal interest in reading those articles, but twilight is a huge phenomenon, it's worth studying. the articles could be good or they could be terrible.

they have no bearing on what click did.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:00 (ten years ago)

eh the First Amendment is too much work. Besides, the GOP just wants to keep the Second and Tenth anyway.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:04 (ten years ago)

they have no bearing on what click did.

i don't know if this is true. i'm looking at one of the papers right now and it is very embarrassing from the pov of having come from an academic producing scholarship at the university level. the link between the politics of the author, and the insubstantial nature of the scholarship, is that the former - an emphasis in the academy on activism - allowed the latter - scholarship w/ minimal redeeming qualities. it's indicative of an emphasis on left-wing activism in the university at the expense of the traditional purvey of academic study.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:26 (ten years ago)

I think that's jumping to conclusions just a little.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:30 (ten years ago)

speaking of uh stuff you guys were talking about, i thought this story was so heartwarming when i first read it.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/01/the-teen-who-exposed-a-professor-s-myth.html

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:37 (ten years ago)

I finally watched that video of Click--oh man, when the cameraman tells her he has a right to be on public space and she does this mocking cartoon voice back at him "I really understand that. I'm a Communications Professor." lol

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:48 (ten years ago)

the trolls have descended

http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/11/11/racist-signs-found-on-old-campus/

goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:08 (ten years ago)

YPD Lieutenant Brian Logan said his department’s investigation of the incident is ongoing and declined to provide further information, but the self-described comedy group “Million Dollar Extreme” — which, according to its Facebook page, consists of three men who produce “alternative comedy” for the Internet — posted a picture of two men holding the signs in question. Multiple students said they had seen these men carrying the signs on campus earlier in the day.

goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:08 (ten years ago)

million dollar extreme was associated with a stunt "satirizing" gamergate by harassing and threatening Brianna Wu

http://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/gamergates-archvillain-is-really-a-trolling-sketch-comedian

intheblanks, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:14 (ten years ago)

yup. real alt-right andy kaufmans

goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:20 (ten years ago)

i'm looking at one of the papers right now and it is very embarrassing from the pov of having come from an academic producing scholarship at the university level. the link between the politics of the author, and the insubstantial nature of the scholarship, is that the former - an emphasis in the academy on activism - allowed the latter - scholarship w/ minimal redeeming qualities. it's indicative of an emphasis on left-wing activism in the university at the expense of the traditional purvey of academic study.

In response to any other kind of comment on god's green earth I would never bother to mention this, but you mean "purview"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:03 (ten years ago)

thank u

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:04 (ten years ago)

god for a minute i was convinced amateurist was finally getting his pedant's comeuppance before i went back to attribute the quote

j., Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:20 (ten years ago)

I think that's jumping to conclusions just a little.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:30 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, Click didn’t have a tenure-track job b/c of her "activism."
there’s tons of crappy academic work on popular culture, and a lot of the people who write it get good jobs, completely apart from whether they are particularly politically active.

(of course, there’s certainly an issue with scholars making their work seem more substantial and credible by casting it in what are often unearned political terms, whether that means uncovering the putative "subversiveness" of a popular TV show, generating a by-the-numbers Frankfurt School critique of Rihanna, or whatever. but I think this stuff is only related in the most tenuous sense to what Professor Click did in the heat of the moment in the Mizzou quad.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:35 (ten years ago)

really she could have made it all better if rather than taking down her twitter account, she just posted this to it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpxsMyoXUZQ

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:36 (ten years ago)

what did Adorno have to say about John Wetton's bass playing

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:37 (ten years ago)

god for a minute i was convinced amateurist was finally getting his pedant's comeuppance before i went back to attribute the quote

― j., Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:20 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd work on establishing a cartoonish caricature of you, too, if i had any fucking idea who you were or what your opinions were. so may i humbly suggest you go fuck yourself instead?

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:37 (ten years ago)

...mr. internet-mensch.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:38 (ten years ago)

you can try

j., Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:41 (ten years ago)

lol i could not even interpret what yr argument was and it certainly had nothing to do w/ what i was writing so i can't really respond. if u'd like to view that as a concession (to what? idk) then go right ahead

― Mordy, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:46 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It specifically addresses what you wrote, idk what's difficult to understand

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 12 November 2015 00:12 (ten years ago)

god for a minute i was convinced amateurist was finally getting his pedant's comeuppance before i went back to attribute the quote

― j., Wednesday, November 11, 2015 4:20 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

senile broken records don't need comeuppance

mattresslessness, Thursday, 12 November 2015 00:19 (ten years ago)

http://humor.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/grampa05.gif

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 12 November 2015 01:40 (ten years ago)

^ proper

j., Thursday, 12 November 2015 02:14 (ten years ago)

http://fusion.net/story/231089/safe-space-history/

big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Thursday, 12 November 2015 04:47 (ten years ago)

You are all liberals. You all believe in the same principles. This fight is not even high school, it's fucking grade school. I hate this thread and I wish you would all go back to paying attention to the composition of our state legislatures and federal courts and STOP FUCKING PRETENDING WE HATE EACH OTHER WE'RE ON THE FUCKING LEFT

oh wait that would require behaving like adults and having a conversation, which is something extremists have never been capable of, even before the Internet. I'm an idiot and I've just wasted a lot of my own time. Fuck everyone.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 November 2015 05:17 (ten years ago)

In TWENTY FUCKING FIFTEEN the left in America has still not arrived at the necessary degree of self-awareness to realize when it is becoming its own stereotype - "Oh, the left always eats itself" YOU'D THINK WE COULD FUCKING LEARN, WE'VE SURE ALL BEEN TO A LOT OF SCHOOL! This bitter self-hating nonsense is why people turn. Learn to prioritize.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 November 2015 05:21 (ten years ago)

Prioritize as in:

1. Sustainable environment
2. Sustainable economy (work conditions, wages)
3. More equitable wealth distribution
4. Respect for all people of all identities and kinds

But let's fucking bitch at EACH OTHER about the fucking details of free expression and safe spaces. It's not like the fucking planet is burning up, or we're selling everyone a fucking FBI wire to carry around with themselves everywhere they go

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 November 2015 05:30 (ten years ago)

I fucking HATE this stupid shit. These arguments are STUPID. FUCKING INSIPID SHIT from otherwise intelligent people. The earth is about to die. My kid is quite possibly never going to be able to eat fresh seafood when she's an adult. Our civilization is being wired to become one giant espionage / surveillance machine. Any millionaires gonna stop eating over that?

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 November 2015 05:34 (ten years ago)

glad all this got sorted out then

Neil S, Thursday, 12 November 2015 09:51 (ten years ago)

I think quite a lot of people disagree with your priorities, El Tomboto...

Frederik B, Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:41 (ten years ago)

hope they like swimming

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:44 (ten years ago)

If you want to enlist people's help in ~vague but catastrophic crisis coming in the near future~ perhaps "it's a disaster that my kids will never get to consume luxury food products" is not a great way of attracting the attention of protesters who are concerned about the perhaps less ~worthwhile~ but more immediately pressing concerns of "our kids are getting shot by racist police officers while walking down the street."

La Düsseldork (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:49 (ten years ago)

I think quite a lot of people disagree with your priorities, El Tomboto...

― Frederik B, T

they're the ones voting for state legislators who want textbooks to mention Noah's ark.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 November 2015 11:40 (ten years ago)

Frederik and Branwell, you have to vote for men and women who don't countenance this shit, and that means tossing out the legislators who believe there is no race problem. It's the same argument.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 November 2015 11:42 (ten years ago)

Branwell Bell Luxury Food Products - "From the ocean to your safe space."

how's life, Thursday, 12 November 2015 12:05 (ten years ago)

Tombot seems skeptical about the fight against insensitive Halloween costumes, not the one against state sponsored murder. He didn't say the latter wasn't worthwhile.

Treeship, Thursday, 12 November 2015 12:15 (ten years ago)

This is a disastrous series of events for liberalism and leftism in this country.

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This kind of defeatist talk is just as "damaging" as whatever you think is a disaster for the left about these events. The media, or certain segments of it, love the "coddled college students" narrative because it's an easy distraction from the underlying issues. It's an excuse. Sure, Click fucked up, the "safe space" protesters fucked up. We hopefully have learned that you can't expect to stage a protest in a commons and then say "no cameras." You want safe space, go somewhere off to the side, go into a conference room. But making that what the story is about is a very convenient way of once again ignoring the bigger problem. It's the box of cigarillos.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2015 14:52 (ten years ago)

Thinking about media perception is important and should always be part of strategy. But there's always an extent to which the neoliberal media will be neoliberal. All things being equal, it will always prefer order, police, football, authority, whiteness. It will seize on any slip up. Anything "activist" has to be 3x as pure and clean and careful in order not to get trashed or ignored.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2015 14:55 (ten years ago)

I might feel more passionate about this if I didn't think that a lot of college degrees* were utter garbage.

*probably doesn't apply to Yale

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:20 (ten years ago)

we are building something big here, people!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/us/racial-discrimination-protests-ignite-at-colleges-across-the-us.html?_r=1

scott seward, Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:24 (ten years ago)

coddle this, bitches!

even smith college is getting into the act. good old smith.

scott seward, Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:25 (ten years ago)

kind of dreaming about SEC football teams going on strike for voting rights legislation.

bnw, Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:28 (ten years ago)

TS coddling vs swaddling
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-swaddled-generation/2015/05/19/162ea17a-fe6a-11e4-805c-c3f407e5a9e9_story.html

what_have_you, Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:36 (ten years ago)

the messaging for the yale march is interesting

http://blavity.com/8-photos-from-yales-historic-march-of-resilience/

college administrators love to talk about 'resilience' and 'grit' these days

j., Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:37 (ten years ago)

Thankfully football has gotten involved so people will start to take things seriously now. /s

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:38 (ten years ago)

does the involvement of football teams devalue these protests?

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:50 (ten years ago)

i would say the opposite

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 November 2015 15:53 (ten years ago)


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