Jacques Rivette

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Hilarious review. He mentions Rohmer's appearance but the Nouvelle Vague as a movement seems to have been v literature based and Out 1 does seem like the ultimate film in that regard. Has this person ever read a modern novel? This project - although based around a thetrical troupe - is v early late 19th/early 20th century narrative novel based. The Leaud/Berto - then slippage of characters coming in-and-out, as a set-up, is really appealing to me. The look at how the passage of almost uncontrolled time does mirror a particular reading experience (the way people slip and coming back hundreds of pages later). You could say "but its a film", but all of these movements in painting, poetry, novels and, art and film really feed off one another, and you can't see them in isolation. I had to laugh when he says the plot might not be solved. When were you expecting this?

Morbs - this is clearly not for you. Its gonna be ok man.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 November 2015 11:33 (ten years ago)

Even that quote you pulled out..."one-note" is so off as a criticism of this. It implies a master director that controlled your experience, something very precisely scuplted and verging on the oppressive. And watching Out 1 (even in the four hour cut) feels like a really organic interaction and collaboration between cast and director on the shape and of what that might be - so it has this rough and ready feel of an exploration (which is what he says) and yet its also a potential way of working that is only unsustainable because works have to be perhaps funded and produced in ways that are contrary to how this was made.

Also its one of the few films where you can really get a flavour of the time: there are a lot of films that centre around paranoia but this seems like one of the few that trasmit the psychic torment of what paranoia might be.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 November 2015 12:24 (ten years ago)

I've read very few modern novels for related reasons.

I figure the NY public library will have the video release in a few months if I ever feel the need. Also I feel Virginia Plain has suffered on behalf of me.

Also on Slant, Mich(a)el Lonsdale interview!

Improvisation was easy with Bulle Ogier because she can improvise very easily, but it was more difficult with Bernadette Lafont because she didn't know what to say. [laughs] So we'd say to her, “Say something.” She couldn't! When she acts, you know, she's wonderful. She was, now she's gone. But she was completely lost and couldn't say anything. That's why her part isn't very long in the film.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/interview-michael-lonsdale

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 November 2015 15:39 (ten years ago)

Out 1 is now streaming on Fandor.

Chris L, Friday, 20 November 2015 22:59 (ten years ago)

three weeks pass...

Interview with Bulle Ogier in November's "Cahiers du Cinéma" where she reveals the origin of OUT 1. While in NYC with Rivette to present "L'Amour Fou" at a festival they (and Bertolucci!) became hooked on "Get Smart" reruns. They especially liked Barbara Feldon. Afterwards Rivette was stuck on doing either a TV series or a veeeeery long film with a good guys vs bad guys angle.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 12 December 2015 14:55 (ten years ago)

That's a great story! And you can totally see it in Out 1. Rivette uses genre brilliantly.

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 12 December 2015 17:47 (ten years ago)

v gd tick!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 December 2015 10:20 (ten years ago)

that's easy for YOU to say

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 December 2015 10:35 (ten years ago)

On the contrary: cinema is hard work.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 December 2015 10:44 (ten years ago)

It's a lie told 25 times a second.

Thank you very much, you've got a Lucky Wilbury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 December 2015 23:55 (ten years ago)

The only chance for me to see Out 1 in Seattle is to go to the marathon screening.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:46 (ten years ago)

off to a 35mm screening of Paris Belongs to Us v shortly

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 21:24 (ten years ago)

^ Liked it, even the explicit turn toward Body Snatchers-style dread near the end. Funny JLG cameo.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:32 (ten years ago)

I saw this for the first time the other week; it's startling how many of Rivette's preoccupations (endless rehearsal, artistic process in tension with the expectation of a final saleable product, paranoia as a way of projecting order onto the flow of experience, "Body Snatchers-style dread" as part of the way ungraspable historical forces permeate everyday life) seem to have been in place from the first.

one way street, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:27 (ten years ago)

https://www.criterion.com/films/27724-paris-belongs-to-us

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:26 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/30/movies/jacques-rivette-french-director-dies.html?_r=0

RIP

, Friday, 29 January 2016 13:31 (ten years ago)

:-(

Really wonderful that "Out 1" came out again last year.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 January 2016 13:32 (ten years ago)

That's a massive loss (though given the rumors that he'd been in decline for the last several years, I'm glad he's not suffering). I finally saw Celine and Julie Go Boating this past week, and it was one of the most joyful experiences with film I've had in a long time.

one way street, Friday, 29 January 2016 13:43 (ten years ago)

Rest In Peace

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 29 January 2016 13:48 (ten years ago)

"When an old man dies, a library burns to the ground."

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 29 January 2016 13:56 (ten years ago)

RIP (reading the notes in the new Rivette box set, it did sound as if his last years were fairly miserable, so I'm glad he's no longer suffering)

Will be having a memorial viewing of Duelle this weekend

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Friday, 29 January 2016 14:23 (ten years ago)

Am watching "Paris s'en va" ( the alternate "Pont du Nord") this morning.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 29 January 2016 14:52 (ten years ago)

La Belle Noiseuse is one of my favorite movies about art. RIP.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 January 2016 15:14 (ten years ago)

RIP, he's 2/2 for movies I've seen/movies I think are incredible, looking forward to adding to both columns

ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago), Friday, 29 January 2016 16:09 (ten years ago)

i'll keep trying, Monsieur.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2016 16:57 (ten years ago)

RIP

slightly guiltily my first response just now was to be psyched at the increased probability of actually getting some screenings here

jaggered little poll (wins), Friday, 29 January 2016 17:05 (ten years ago)

a ward fowler post from a decade ago mentions "a totally new language of time/place/movement in cinema."

i haven't warmed up to that language.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2016 17:31 (ten years ago)

how is the film with Birkin and G Chaplin? anyone?

http://www.filmlinc.org/films/love-on-the-ground/

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2016 19:34 (ten years ago)

It is almost the quintessential Rivette - two women as central protaganists, a theatrical background, a ghost house - but perhaps not the most inspired version of that kind of thing (Gang of Four is another, more compelling, variant.) Rivette had as good a late run of movies as any major director, imho.

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Friday, 29 January 2016 20:14 (ten years ago)

That's a massive loss (though given the rumors that he'd been in decline for the last several years, I'm glad he's not suffering). I

he had been suffering from alzheimer's for some time. supposedly he wasn't altogether "there" for the production and post-production of his last film, and after that, couldn't be insured.

i have to admit that the only rivette films i've liked are some of his later films, like "secret defense." granted, i haven't seen "out one" or several other of his lengthy '70s films, but having seen the established "masterpieces" i concur with sarris that, at least in the first decades of his career he was rather flat-footed as a stylist.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 January 2016 22:29 (ten years ago)

RIP. Does anyone else like his Joan of Arc movies?

La Belle Noiseuse is one of my favorite movies about art. RIP.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, January 29, 2016 3:14 PM


Still haven't seen this one.

We Built This City On Rickroll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:02 (ten years ago)

I really enjoyed the Joan films. Thought Bonnaire was perfect casting and the grittiness worked in its favor.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:35 (ten years ago)

There are very good versions on YT, btw.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:36 (ten years ago)

I really like the two Joan of Arc movies, definitely Rivette's best period films - parts of them strongly reminded me of Rossellini's 'historicals'.

Watched Duelle at the weekend - Rivette's most overtly 'fantastic' film.

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Monday, 1 February 2016 11:56 (ten years ago)

Jane Birkin did a Q&A after the Jane B par Agnes V screening here last night, and talked a little about Rivette; i didn't know she'd done 3 with him. On her first meeting she was thrown by the lack of a script, and the prospect of doing a 'circus' movie. Then she watched Celine et Julie and phoned Geraldine Chaplin in a panic to see if ahe could get back into JR's good graces.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:20 (ten years ago)

Hmmm - the circus-themed Rivette is Around a Small Mountain, the third of the three films Birkin and Rivette made together (and, as it turned out, JR's final movie.) It could be that Mountain was an older project revived much later, I suppose (it never got any kind of release in the UK so I've not actually seen it).

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:25 (ten years ago)

Checking his filmog I've seen less than I thought I had. Le Pont du Nord is something I want to see as soon-ish as poss. Got a hunch about that one.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:33 (ten years ago)

(xxpost) at one point in the 70s he was going to do something called "Carnaval" (sp?) that was also circus themed. Maybe Jane B was referring to an earlier request to work on that project?

"Le Pont du Nord" is fantastic. Paris never felt so threatening.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:36 (ten years ago)

Yeah, Pont du Nord is another Paris-as-playground one; Duelle also has lots of fantastically empty Parisian locations.

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:48 (ten years ago)

I don't know; it's possible she was confused, or i am.

I've seen Pont du Nord, tho at least ten yerars ago, and ... it didn't work on me. Willing to revisit.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:52 (ten years ago)

The weirdest thing about Pont du Nord is a sudden non-diagetic burst of Astor Piazolla on the soundtrack

Acid Hose, I think I saw somewhere on ILX that you'd watched the earlier, 'trial run' of Pont du Nord - I take it this was a non-official source (it isn't on the Masters of Cinema Pont du Nord disc)?

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:56 (ten years ago)

"Paris vu par". And yes - non official source most probably.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 February 2016 17:31 (ten years ago)

"Paris Goes Away," the sort, somewhat abstract companion film to Pont du Nord, is also available online: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TiuNS59K8rg

one way street, Monday, 1 February 2016 18:05 (ten years ago)

*short, I mean

one way street, Monday, 1 February 2016 18:05 (ten years ago)

ty ows, will watch later

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 February 2016 22:39 (ten years ago)

whats the deal w the doc claire denis did on him? seems like the perfect time for someone to put that out if its possible wrt to the rights etc

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 01:29 (ten years ago)

On YT as well ( the doc ).

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 05:10 (ten years ago)

Yes, thanks ows and ah

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 09:46 (ten years ago)


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