Boston -- Classic or Dirty Water?

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I figured there must've been a hundred barbecues in Dorchester better than Redbones, but I never managed to find any. Redbones is fun enough but the food is totally forgettable.

Who are the famous athletes from Boston? The only one I can think of is Marvin Hagler. Did Reggie Lewis grow up in Boston? I know he went to Northeastern.

Boston has the shortest, most inconspicuous MLK Blvd. I've ever seen. Why bother even having one? I also heard something about the Zakim Bridge also being called the Bunker Hill bridge because the Charlestown residents didn't want the bridge to be named for a Jew. Did I read that somewhere on this thread?

― Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, anna's has good rice

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

so, where should i go to watch the world series games on tv?? preferably in cambridge.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 21 October 2004 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)

ANY WHERE.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

So I'll be near Copley Square Sunday sometime through Tuesday night. Anyone have any commentary on nearby restaurants/hotels? I probably won't have time for local stuff besides food and maybe a loop around the Public Garden, but Boston must-sees? I've been to Cambridge before.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and I'll be there again two weeks subsequent, and maybe will have actual sightseeing time then, so recommendations encouraged

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, tonight I R DA LOSER. laugh in my general direction, no capitalism-tasting & all that.

above all ... ENJOY YERSELVES BOSTONIANS, YOU DESERVE IT!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 28 October 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm so glad i've been here this week.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 28 October 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

well, my viewing was limited - a pre-check-in trip to see a few races at Head of the Charles, and pre- and post-dinner walks around Back Bay, down to Tremont St, and up to Louisburg Sq - but I think I'm with Dan on this one - it's Neither. A real city, yes, moreso than DC. But I can see good reasons why one would want to live in DC rather than NYC, and don't see the same for Boston beyond work with a few institutions. It's nice, but it's too nice. Where's all the grit? Why does everyone look the same?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 October 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Toby, did you get caught in all last nights hoopla?

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 28 October 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's all the grit?

South station?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Dudley Square?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I knew I was missing something. I've been through South Station before, but don't remember it.

Maybe it was just a reaction to the planning-gone-bad/mall-in-the-bad-sense of Back Bay (and inappropriate attribution back to the real thing in Beacon Hill, which, admittedly, I saw at night and while distracted by a phone). I did kinda like what I saw of the South End, and Trinity and other churches were interesting.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Trinity is GORGEOUS; my wife and I sang in the choir there for 2 years.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going there next week. So it had better be classic.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG COME TO THE CONCERT AT KING'S CHAPEL SUNDAY EVENING AT 5 PM!!!!!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

is this sunday the 7th or sunday the 31st? I R not in USland on October 31st.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

by the way, what is this concert anyway?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Boo it's the 31st.

The concert is this one. My wife and I are singing in it.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

ah well, I'm sure you'll do fine without me.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

What was the perfect little neighborhood I wandered into after I left the public library en route to Hyatt but accidentally landed in an ubermanicured utopian village--is that Back Bay?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Either Back Bay or The South End, depending on which direction you walked (you don't happen to remember any street names?).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No, but then I turned in desperation to get out of the neverending suburbs (the only person around was a postman) and I ended up at Saks.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

You were in the South End. It's really gorgeous over there (and probably the area of town I'd most like to move into).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Dirty yuppie. (j/k)

It was really lovely, but almost fairy-tailish. It's super expensive to live there, I presume?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

OH YES. We had friends who lived in a 600 sq ft condo that they paid $350,000 for. 600 SQUARE FEET. If you want a decent amount of living space, you are EASILY looking at $600+K.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(Or, in rent terms, think at least $900+/person.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

$900/person is cheap!

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Not if you're living with 3 other people.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that I've attending school near it for the past three months, Downtown Crossing is my leading "grit" candidate.

― nader (nader), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha yeah!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I want more, not grit, but what it produces or is a product of - dynamism. It just seems so reified. I dunno, I'm probably being too down on it. Maybe its brisk familiarity made it lonely for a single explorer, whereas humid, strange Houston was a fun adventure. Maybe it was just allergies.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, I'm probably being too down on it.

NO YOU AREN'T.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston's a difficult city to appreciate in a few days (much less seven going on eight years).

Ultimately it's cities like Somerville and Cambridge and an area like the South End that give Boston any sort of dynamism (or character). Boston itself? Boston proper?

It's very vanilla.

Although I took a long look at the newer half of the Public Library today and I must say: that's some dope ass exterior design going on right there.

For Boston anyway...

― nader (nader), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how Tracer's post near the top of this thread has now fully justified itself:

First, Ned, it's spelt Carl Yastrzemski. As great as the Rooster was he is not by any stretch better than Manny, so 70s Boston loses in left field. But: Harvard Square hadn't become utterly uninteresting yet, Aerosmith didn't take showers yet... close call. But I'd still trade it all for Manny.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, Ghost of Dan Perry... i) good luck with your concert ii) are you interested in getting together next week to discuss Dr Who issues?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 31 October 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i) Thank you! ii) Sure! If you're interested, my wife is doing some ensemble work in a production of "Strike Up The Band" on Friday night and Sunday afternoon in Cambridge; I will be there Friday night for sure. (Saturday night we've committed to a dinner party.) Let me know how long you're in town and when you're available and we'll see what we ca work out (also where you'll be and what type of place you'd like to meet up; bar/restaurant/etc).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 31 October 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's all the grit?

roxbury dorchester mission hill jamaica plain etc and so on, son.
certainly not on the banks of the fucking charles river during the head of the charles. walk through jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville fo yo dynamism next time through

nader OTM boston itself=vanilla

south station= bums, random hookers, construction worker, creepy businesmen

― kephm, Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

walk through jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville fo yo dynamism next time through

what, the suburbs? pfft

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

somerville reprezentz, playa: 02143 in the hizous!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 31 October 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

what, the suburbs? pfft

jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville : boston :: brooklyn, the bronx, queens : nyc

― nader (nader), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

South End is gorgeous. Having all of the buildings made from red bricks surely helps though. You get a lot more for your rent money if you leave Boston proper though.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 1 November 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Only Somerville is a seperate municipality and can really be called a suburb; Jamaica Plain, Brighton and Allston are part of the city of Boston proper.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you know what I mean Dan... ;)

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I know! That was to Gabbneb, not you.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

FAP on Tuesday, Nov. 16?

― youn, Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

there are way way WAY more suburbs of boston than those.

Just the immediate ones like:
Waltham, Watertown, Somerville, Malden, Medford, Melrose, Everett, Chelsea, Revere, Winthrop, Lynn, Quincy, Braintree, NEWTON, Milton, Dedham, Needham

etc. etc. etc.

what was this discussion actually about? I didn't really read.

but Boston is certainly classic.

― trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

oh wait, someone was looking for grit

yeah, roxbury and all the other parts of town that border roxbury

that's quite enough grit for me

― trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

but the rooster wasn't carl yastrzemski and he didn't play left field. he played shortstop. so i'm a bit confused by this argument.

but in any case, '00s boston beats '70s boston at virtually every position on the baseball field, and not just because of what happened last week, but because they are in fact a better team. though i would kill to have luis tiant on the mound for boston next year.

as for aerosmith, though, anyone who would choose aerosmith now over aerosmith in '75 either needs therapy or plays for the yankees.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wrong: E.T.J.F.N. lives in Cambridge.

― youn, Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

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