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http://waxpoetics.com/music/mixtape/jannis-of-jakarta-recordshabibi-funk-drops-another-mixtape-of-north-african-funk-and-disco/

Jannis of Jakarta Records has been dropping heat lately. After every trip to North Africa and the Middle East, he puts together a new mixtape—this time with funk covers (James Brown!) from Egypt and disco from Algeria and Morocco. There’s a killer Tunisian tune that’s a nice mix of modern soul and poppy reggae. There’s even a cover of Free’s “All Right Now.”

Mordy, Friday, 9 October 2015 21:30 (ten years ago)

30 killed at a peace march in Ankara:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/10/turkey-suicide-bomb-killed-in-ankara

PKK seems to have called a ceasefire ahead of the bombing and is obviously unlikely to have hit a rally in favour of de-escalating the military campaign so could be the first major ISIS attack in central Turkey.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:14 (ten years ago)

Death toll now over 80.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:19 (ten years ago)

so horrible
if it's isis this seems like significant shift/ new variant in m.o., no?

drash, Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:28 (ten years ago)

HDP blaming the deep state.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:32 (ten years ago)

The Suruc attack was also a suicide bomber w/ car bomb, as this seems to be. Xp

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:33 (ten years ago)

ah yes

drash, Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:37 (ten years ago)

HDP blaming the deep state.

!

drash, Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:43 (ten years ago)

Zaman Editor-in-Chief Keneş arrested for ’insulting’ Erdoğan: http://www.todayszaman.com/national_live-todays-zaman-editor-in-chief-kenes-arrested-for-insulting-erdogan_401086.html

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 October 2015 16:07 (ten years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrSV3Z9gTmM

Mordy, Sunday, 11 October 2015 02:09 (ten years ago)

^fascinating
vicissitudes, folds, uncanny echoes of history

drash, Sunday, 11 October 2015 12:43 (ten years ago)

“If the media turn silent, Turkey would be plunged into darkness. Turkey will not turn away from democracy. Turkey will never get dark. Turkey will never turn into an authoritarian regime and it will go forward towards democracy,” Bilici said.

things seem v dark in turkey rn

so no one’s taken credit for bombing yet?
god is it really possible turkish (deep) state could be responsible, or is that conspiratorial fantasy?
i've referenced 1955 istanbul pogrom/kristallnacht itt before (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_pogrom), which was instigated by false flag bombing by turkish (deep) state
not distant history, would not be surprising for erdogan to take after menderes in this regard
yet unthinkable, yet not; don't know what to think

drash, Sunday, 11 October 2015 12:50 (ten years ago)

echoes of history
echoes & ironies

drash, Sunday, 11 October 2015 12:57 (ten years ago)

The key thing about the deep state is that everyone thinks it's working against them, including Erdogan. Working on the assumption that it exists, the derin devlet is generally thought to be secular and elitist, so doesn't exactly fit with Erdogan's populism and soft Islamism. It went virtually unnoticed in the west but a few years ago Erdogan started to remove key military figures from the army and navy in what was thought by many to be an attempt to weaken the power of the deep state. They may be statist and nationalist but idk if I buy the idea that there is collaboration here. The murder of 100 people in your capital weeks before an election hardly looks like an obvious vote winner in itself. If there was another military intervention in domestic politics, I don't think Erdogan would be leading it.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Sunday, 11 October 2015 13:48 (ten years ago)

I'm struggling to imagine a secular elitist suicide bomber, but if they've sending arms to ISIS on the sly - http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkey-arrests-soldiers-over-interception-of-syria-bound-weapons-to-terrorists/5450969 - they might be able to ship a willing suicide bomber to ankara

ogmor, Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:02 (ten years ago)

if they've been sending

ogmor, Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:02 (ten years ago)

thanks for insight sharivari
was not acquainted with term "deep state" until tom d.'s reference yesterday; v interesting

The murder of 100 people in your capital weeks before an election hardly looks like an obvious vote winner in itself

true, tho to be devil’s advocate-- just devil's advocate-- such events can be used (politically, rhetorically) to promote need for unification under strong leader; & most of those killed were kurds
but your intuition here re erdogan seems otm
if deep state were responsible, wonder what its motive/ agenda wd be

drash, Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:15 (ten years ago)

or if it's non-existent phantasmatic projection that all the different political actors in turkey imagine/ use to their own ends ("The key thing about the deep state is that everyone thinks it's working against them, including Erdogan")
amazing

drash, Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:24 (ten years ago)

from ogmor's link

The Turkish authorities have sought to link the affair to US-based preacher Fethullah Gulen who President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accuses of running a parallel state through supporters in the judiciary and police with the aim of usurping him.

Supporters of Gulen, who have been hit by a wave of arrests in the past months, reject the allegations.

The controversy erupted on 19 January 2014, when Turkish forces stopped trucks bound for Syria suspected to have been loaded with weapons. But they found MIT personnel on board.

Foreign rights groups have expressed concern in recent months over the broad judicial campaign against groups in Turkish society deemed to be Gulen supporters.

Weapons intercepted

The government imposed a full-blown media blackout, including on social networks, and the investigation is being carried out in the utmost secrecy.

drash, Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:39 (ten years ago)

It is very easy to get lost down an Ergenekon wiki rabbit hole. There is virtually no doubt that senior Turkish military officers have an ongoing agreement to take power in the event of a national crisis (or strongly Islamist party being elected) but the idea that a single shadowy cabal controls the PKK, ISIS, the Revolutionary People's Front, etc, has a long history in Turkey and has always been short on evidence.

The idea that ISIS wants to derail the ceasefire that threatens to strengthen the Kurdish rebels in Syria seems a cleaner explanation.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:53 (ten years ago)

Gulenism is another odd one, and one of the reasons Zaman should always be taken with a pinch of salt.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:55 (ten years ago)

it's so weird that no one has claimed credit for this attack. what's the pt of a huge terror attack if you don't want it associated with either your political ideology or at the very least your opponent's?

Mordy, Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:30 (ten years ago)

If the objective was to get the Kurds / Turks blaming each other, it might not be so weird. ISIS also waited 24 hours to claim Suruc so they might still own up to this one.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:42 (ten years ago)

84% with an 87% turnout!

If he can get the sanctions lifted and bring peace to Ukraine I see no reason he shouldn't be aiming for the full 100 next time.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Monday, 12 October 2015 04:06 (ten years ago)

Wrong thread ^

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Monday, 12 October 2015 04:06 (ten years ago)

The reason I had both tabs open is that the FSB claims to have foiled a bomb plot in Moscow possibly linked to involvement in Syria.

http://news.sky.com/story/1567708/russia-foils-terrorist-attack-in-moscow

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Monday, 12 October 2015 04:08 (ten years ago)

The UK Justice Secretary (Michael Gove) has apparently asked the Foreign Office and Prime Minister to withdraw a bid for offering training and advice to the Saudi prison system on human rights grounds.

The Foreign Secretary (Philip Hammond) is apparently refusing on the basis that it would diminish the UK's reputation as a reliable trade partner.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 06:38 (ten years ago)

Unfortunate bit of timing for Mr. Hammond and HM's Government. Not sure if we are specifically offering advice on how to beat and brutalise old men though tbf.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 08:50 (ten years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/irans-parliament-approves-nuclear-deal-with-world-powers/2015/10/13/38bc0e9c-7176-11e5-ba14-318f8e87a2fc_story.html?tid=sm_tw

A preliminary parliamentary vote Sunday saw 139 lawmakers out of the 253 present support the outline of the bill. But despite getting more support Tuesday, hard-liners still tried to disrupt the parliament’s session, shouting that Khamenei himself did not support the bill while trying to raise numerous proposals on its details.

“This decision has no link to the leader!” shouted Mahdi Kouchakzadeh, a hard-line lawmaker who rushed toward the front of parliament to yell at speaker Ali Larijani. “It is a decision by Larijani and we oppose it!”

The semi-official Fars news agency reported that Ali Aghar Zarei, another hard-line lawmaker, broke down weeping after the vote. Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, who led Iran’s nuclear negotiation team, left the session when it grew tense, the state-run IRNA news agency said.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 11:34 (ten years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRUccsNUYAATt4c.png

an unreliable amnesty international report about a middle east minority? no way.

Mordy, Thursday, 15 October 2015 12:51 (ten years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/15/world/middleeast/russian-military-uses-syria-as-proving-ground-and-west-takes-notice.html

Russia’s fighter jets are, for now at least, conducting nearly as many strikes in a typical day against rebel troops opposing the government of President Bashar al-Assad as the American-led coalition targeting the Islamic State has been carrying out each month this year.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:10 (ten years ago)

interesting read from the gentleman who tried to broker a deal between assad + israel before the war started:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/syria-civil-war-213242?o=0

Mordy, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:16 (ten years ago)

Wow. If the Afghan government could only get its act together and improve life for all, it would help further minimize the Taliban. But neither the Russians, the US or the current Afghan military and government have been able to stop the Taliban, and the Afghan government doesn't seem that much more proficient than the Iraqi one.

curmudgeon, Friday, 16 October 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)

On paper Ghani is a more credible state builder than Karzai but he has his work cut out for him. Idk what percentage of Afghanistan is "governed" in any meaningful sense.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Friday, 16 October 2015 17:33 (ten years ago)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/10/16/with-putin-in-syria-allies-question-obamas-resolve/

drash, Saturday, 17 October 2015 00:38 (ten years ago)

Another article that doesn't even hint at what Obama could do in reaction to Russia's intervention other than Zbigniew Brzezinski's moronic assertion that the US should threaten the second biggest military power in the world with "retaliation" if it hits their "assets". Russia's action aligns with the government of Syria, the government of Iraq and the country with the most direct influence over foreign troops on the ground - Iran. It's hardly surprising that they have been able to 'shift the paradigm' or whatever in a way a country backing a fairly disorganised mosaic of rebels hasn't. The fact that the US actions are ostensibly illegal and the Russian ones, on paper, are not also negates much possibility of a non-aggressive route to checking Russia's move.

Beyond that, it's just speculation - Qatar and Saudi are still funneling money and arms to the rebels and have both restated, as has Turkey, that there is no role for Assad in the future. The Saudi visit to Moscow was to confirm that they have no objection to Russia attacking ISIS but the fact that, in the same week, KSA started supplying oil directly to Poland - cutting Russia out, didn't go unnoticed.

I'm not sure how useful it is to make out that allies in the region have stopped talking to the US or have only just started talking to Russia - nether is true.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Saturday, 17 October 2015 06:41 (ten years ago)

I mean, the scenario the FP article outlines is the one that Russia is definitely aiming for - i just don't think there is enough evidence to suggest it's working yet.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Saturday, 17 October 2015 06:44 (ten years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/vladimir-putins-interventionism-in-the-middle-east-is-not-to-be-admired/2015/10/15/7c939834-7373-11e5-8d93-0af317ed58c9_story.html

Washington’s foreign policy elites have developed a mind-set that mistakes activity for achievement. They assume that every crisis in the world can and should be solved by a vigorous assertion of U.S. power, preferably military power. Failure to do so is passivity and produces weakness. By this logic, Russia and Iran are the new masters of the Middle East. Never mind that those countries are desperately trying to shore up a sinking ally. Their clients, the Alawites of Syria, are a minority regime — representing less than 15 percent of the country’s people — and face deadly insurgencies supported by vast portions of the population. Iran is bleeding resources in Syria. And if Russia and Iran win, somehow, against the odds, they get Syria — which is a cauldron, not a prize. The United States has been “in the driver’s seat” in Afghanistan for 14 years. Has that strengthened America?

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Saturday, 17 October 2015 12:18 (ten years ago)

Kevin Drumm thinks things are already not going well; he quotes the ISW, "Nonetheless, the Syrian regime and its allies have thus far failed to achieve significant gains... Confirmed reports indicate that pro-regime fighters have seized only six villages and towns... At the same time, regime forces suffered heavy losses in manpower and materiel in the face of heavy rebel resistance. Free Syrian Army (FSA)-affiliated rebels forces claimed to destroy at least twenty tanks and armored vehicles as well as a helicopter gunship in a “tank massacre” on the first day of the offensive....Operations against the Syrian opposition will likely prove harder and slower than anticipated by either Russia or Iran...The foreign allies of the Syrian regime may be forced to expend further financial and military resources in order to preserve their initial gains."

I'm not yet convinced that this is going to be a disaster for Putin. He's supporting the historical status quo government against a revolution which immediately makes it different from Afghanistan or Iraq where the US toppled the entire state infrastructure. If it does become a "quagmire" I'm sure the US will have plenty to do w/ making that happen.

Mordy, Saturday, 17 October 2015 15:48 (ten years ago)

https://twitter.com/erinmcunningham/status/655717060962578432

Mordy, Sunday, 18 October 2015 22:50 (ten years ago)

https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/656002890792734720

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Monday, 19 October 2015 07:29 (ten years ago)

kinda lol but mostly sad
"I'm glad he's associated with al-Qaeda rather than IS, but obviously I worry."

drash, Monday, 19 October 2015 16:16 (ten years ago)

gross as hell

Mordy, Friday, 23 October 2015 16:54 (ten years ago)

p depressing

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 October 2015 17:04 (ten years ago)

^makes perfect sense to me. the US military has also issued amphetamines to troops in the past and the sale of illicit drugs has been a big money maker for a lot of paramilitary organizations worldwide. when there's a war to win, you don't give a fuck about consequences. people are dying right and left, so the future shrinks to insignificance.

Aimless, Monday, 26 October 2015 18:34 (ten years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/27/world/middleeast/syria-russian-air-strike-refugees.html?_r=0

The intensity of the fighting, they say, is fueling increased desperation as a growing number of Syrians are fleeing to neighboring countries and, especially, to Europe. More than 9,000 migrants a day crossed into Greece last week, according to the International Organization for Migration, the most since the beginning of the year

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:01 (ten years ago)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-shifting-anti-isis-strategy-gather-battlefield-momentum/story?id=34759980

The changes we’re pursuing can be described by what I call the 'three R’s': Raqqa, Ramadi, and Raids,” Carter said in testimony today before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:17 (ten years ago)


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