a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

tippecanoe and tyler too

http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/northam/images/cleveland.jpg

i went to a Jerry Brown '92 rally at NYU, which was mc'd by Matthew Modine, who had a joke something like "If all those women Governor Clinton slept with vote for him..."

i was at a jerry brown rally (kind of skulking around the edges rather than down in the mosh pit, so to speak) in 1996. he didn't really seem to have a chance and the whole thing had an air of pointlessness. but he said some good stuff.

might need a separate thread for ben carson quotes

Ma, ma, where's my pa? Gone to the White House, ha ha ha.

^^^ not a Ben Carson quote, it's cool

"I have had a gun held on me when I was in a Popeye's organization" in Baltimore, the retired neurosurgeon told Karen Hunter on Sirius XM Radio, referring to the fried chicken fast-food chain. "Guy comes in, put the gun in my ribs. And I just said, 'I believe that you want the guy behind the counter,'"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l453szonvE

Ma, ma, where's my pa? Gone to the White House, ha ha ha.

― Three Word Username, Thursday, October 8, 2015 2:07 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ not a Ben Carson quote, it's cool

― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino),

from the campaign that elected the Dems' last unabashed corporatist president

wow ben

I just told the gunman to shoot the Popeye's employee instead of me; that's how I would handle gun violence in this country.

"Hey guys, everybody attack him."

Also: a Popeye's "organization"? I admit the one by my stop more or less has their shit together most of the time, but...

he's just making that story up, right?

it sounds like bad stand-up. like it's supposed to be a humorous and self-deprecating bit, the situation sets up a chance for him to be a hero but he turns out to be a coward like all the rest of us in the audience - relief, identification.

Unlikely story imo. Since when has Popeye's served ribs?!

Whatever, I mean, since when has Popeye's oh wait, there's Simon with it, never mid.

http://www.thecollegianur.com/article/2015/10/john-kasich-holds-town-hall-forum-on-campus
http://www.thecollegianur.com/article/2015/10/no-john-kasich-i-dont-want-taylor-swift-tickets

While calling on sophomore Kayla Solsbak, who was nearly jumping out of her seat to get noticed, Kasich said with a laugh, “I’m sorry, I don’t have any Taylor Swift tickets.”

Kasich also said at one point, “I’m sure you get invited to all of the parties,” to one of the female students sitting in the front row of raised seats.

Comments like these, along with some of Kasich’s remarks on his policies, led to mixed reactions from some of the students who attended the event.

While the lectures were condescending, the real issue was that Kasich chose not to listen to students in his forum. Most of the questions came from older members of the community, many vocalizing their support of Kasich before throwing him a softball question. Kasich barreled through a Planned Parenthood question, dismissing the young woman who posed it, and derided me when I had the audacity to raise my hand. Kasich came to Richmond to pander to retired Republicans. He could gain points by belittling me and my peers, so that's what he did.

...

In a half-hearted attempt to connect with young voters, Kasich entered the town hall forum with the 2014 hit song "Shut Up and Dance With Me" blasting from the speakers. While my friends all found it out of place, I realized that the song's title accurately reflects Kasich's message to young voters: shut up and elect me.

"I have had a gun held on me when I was in a Popeye's organization" in Baltimore, the retired neurosurgeon told Karen Hunter on Sirius XM Radio, referring to the fried chicken fast-food chain. "Guy comes in, put the gun in my ribs. And I just said, 'I believe that you want the guy behind the counter,'"

http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/buck-swope-played-by-don-cheadle-in-the/u/original/5285542/10189001.0.jpg

don cheadle IS ben carson

Carson keepin the lolz comin (armed Jews would have stopped Hitler! mmm no)

The amazing thing is his laughs after saying these things. Like even he can't believe the shit falling out of his mouth.

Is this "arming the Jews" belief a thing in the rightwing nutosphere? Like, first Obama will confiscate our guns and then... what, exactly?

yes. the belief is that hitler enforced strict gun control laws. it's not true.

^^^

also that victims are to blame for things, this is a big one with these guys.

The vocal gun nuts (as opposed to the more rational gun owners) are pretty big on the philosophy of Sean Connery in The Untouchables, which is that you must always escalate the level of violence beyond the violence your enemy can inflict, and if you do, you'll always win!

So, if a shooter arrives in a classroom with three handguns, a semi-automatic rifle, a sawed-off shotgun, body armor, plus 500 rounds of ammo, the antidote is to anticipate them and carry twice as much firepower to class every single fucking day.

Seems reasonable.

It's a convincing argument though, because everything worked out great for Sean Connery in The Untouchables.

@DougHenwood
Anti-TPP @HillaryClinton in Hard Choices: "The TPP became the signature economic pillar of our strategy in Asia..."

this is ... kind of nuts? http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sanders-is-raising-more-money-than-every-republican-candidate-155430566.html#

notably not counting super PACs, but yeah, pretty striking

the super pac $:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/11/us/politics/2016-presidential-election-super-pac-donors.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&_r=0

seems unusually blunt for the nyt

remarkably, no mention of sanders (even as a point of contrast to hrc)

also a bit blithe imo about "self-made" wealth - kinda not buying that most of these characters began as broke schlubs day-trading on AOL in their pajamas.

*sniff*

“If you look at the oil and gas industry, it has done wonders for the country. They paid a lot of taxes, and people still attack you,” said Mr. Pickens, who has donated $125,000 to groups supporting Mr. Bush or Carly Fiorina. “They’re entrepreneurs, and they have opinions about everything.”

meanwhile i guess there's a dem debate on tuesday? get ready for the big webb surge folks

Hack Andrew Sullivan calls hack Clinton a "talent-free hack" on hack Bill Maher's show:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/andrew-sullivan-and-bill-maher-battle-over-hillary-shes-a-talent-free-hack/

Sullivan is wrong. Hillary has talent, but she carefully buries it, so it has a negligible effect on what she says or does in public.

What does 'talent' even mean in a politician? It's not as if it's an art form. The ability to not say moronic stuff in more than half your interviews, and to figure out how to follow server-rules?

"I have had a gun held on me when I was in a Popeye's organization" in Baltimore, the retired neurosurgeon told Karen Hunter on Sirius XM Radio, referring to the fried chicken fast-food chain. "Guy comes in, put the gun in my ribs. And I just said, 'I believe that you want the guy behind the counter,'"

best part abt this story is the selfless bravery

tbf, as he said that he disarmed the assailant with an expert sweep kick, then shot him (in the gun hand)

Hack Andrew Sullivan calls hack Clinton a "talent-free hack" on hack Bill Maher's show:

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, October 10, 2015 12:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If these people are "hack"s, what are you? Who is not a "hack"? Which Presidents and pundits have been hacks and which not and on what basis do you distinguish?

n.b. I am a fan of neither Sullivan nor Maher

Someone get Lifehacker on the case

If these people are "hack"s, what are you? Who is not a "hack"? Which Presidents and pundits have been hacks and which not and on what basis do you distinguish?

― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Saturday, October 10, 2015 3:51 PM

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/FZ59FYMQmcr7ZHSehyNU-4l02sA=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/629090/2014-08-06_15_09_50.0.gif

If these people are "hack"s, what are you? Who is not a "hack"? Which Presidents and pundits have been hacks and which not and on what basis do you distinguish?

Hack

Donald J. Trump $1.8 million
Presidential candidate, second-generation real estate developer and entertainer.

lol

short-fingered vulgarian

If these people are "hack"s, what are you?

Parasite Hacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYcS6P4lEGc