If people on this hack director thread want to diss Tarkovsky a fitting punishment ought to be to watch this shite all the way through
― xelab, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:03 (ten years ago)
man travels all the way to mars without taking any of his own music, then has the temerity to bitch about someone else taste in tunes for two hours. eat a bad spud & die, ya big shitfarmer
― Haino Corrida (NickB), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:17 (ten years ago)
Also, "Hot Stuff" isn't the least disco song she has. It's more disco than several other songs in the movie!
― polyphonic, Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:29 (ten years ago)
that one guy bragging about finding an original pressing of abba's greatest hits, what a fucking n00b
― Haino Corrida (NickB), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:39 (ten years ago)
maybe if you found one on mars, now that would be rare
― Haino Corrida (NickB), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:40 (ten years ago)
this is what the orig swedish version looks like btw, much cooler i think:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/68/23/f1/6823f1e4db911c6e361e689e6aea7bef.jpg
― Haino Corrida (NickB), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:43 (ten years ago)
this movie is so tepid. i wouldnt have minded 'robinson crusoe on mars' but this is more like 'mcgyver on mars'
― tayto fan (Michael B), Sunday, 11 October 2015 11:07 (ten years ago)
Robinson so-so
― Haino Corrida (NickB), Sunday, 11 October 2015 13:50 (ten years ago)
Enjoyed this, and the book, to different amounts. But then again, I have two engineering degrees and went to Space Camp when I was 13.
Reading the book first definitely made the movie better, since I knew all the bits they chopped out, and really, did they chop out a lot.
Even when I read the book, I did think the disco jokes were some weak back shit. The script trimmed back some of the character's goonier aspects, tho.
If nothing else, I dug it as a big Hollywood movie depicting smart people doing smart people shit.
Openly laughed when the "Calculations correct" graphic showed up on the screen, tho.
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 07:55 (ten years ago)
Also, for a pg13 film, they got away with saying "fuck" twice
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 07:57 (ten years ago)
Slow, maybe, but boring....no. There is more to unpack aesthetically, thematically and cinematically in a single frame of any Tarkovsky film than in the entirety of The Martian.
People always say stuff like this about Tarkovsky, and while I've no doubt that The Martian is pretty rubbish, a: the whole "a single frame contains more artisanal human emotion blah blah" is hyperbolic bollocks when said about pretty much ANYTHING, and b: I'm a relatively sophisticated film watched, I've studied film, I've studied photography, I 'get' slow cinema, I have no issue with films from different countries, I used to run an academic film library, and I STILL think Tarjovsky is boring bollocks.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 09:04 (ten years ago)
I kinda liked this (which continues my streak of liking most recent Ridley Scott films). it was a lot weirder than it initially comes across, almost anti-drama in its insistence on problem solving. movies as engineering.
― ryan, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 16:59 (ten years ago)
Can't help but imagine Scott thought of himself as Watney throughout production. Sciencing the shit out of cinema.
― Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 18:01 (ten years ago)
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, October 14, 2015
OTM. i was like, this is the science-y science movie of science i was promised?
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 23:20 (ten years ago)
"used to run an academic film library, and I STILL think Tarjovsky is boring "
http://media.aphelis.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TARKOVSKY_1975_Mirror_00-33-30.jpg
― latebloomer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:00 (ten years ago)
I've commented on this elsewhere, but -
As much as I liked the book a lot more (there is more in the book to like), and as much as I think this movie was only OK (would have made a better mini series), it nonetheless features a diverse, non-patronizing cast of women and persons of color in important roles solving problems with math and physics, was appropriate for younger viewers and featured (a la Interstellar, actually) no guns, shooting or military fetishism. Frankly, as a father of girls that means a lot to me, and more than makes up for its many deficiencies.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:32 (ten years ago)
had not even considered the possibility of taking my daughter to see this, that's good news
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:30 (ten years ago)
there was military fetishism, it was just something that resembled the actual military instead of michael bay american flag flapping in the wind-woman holding a young child near a barn-voiceover monologue beginning w/ the word "gentlemen" corny bs military fetishism
― balls, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:35 (ten years ago)
There was NASA fetishism for sure, but iirc not a single person in military uniform or in a position of ranked authority, and again not a single gun on display, not even as a sidearm. Two of the astronauts note they are military, but only in the fleeting context that they may be court martialed for mutiny. Am I forgetting something?
I took my older one, who is 11. The only issue at all was an early scene where he staples shut a gory wound, which made her cover her eyes and turn away.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:39 (ten years ago)
his buttocks are in full view, let's not forget
― jill's got heroin (rip van wanko), Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:51 (ten years ago)
His stunt buttocks. Weirdly, she said nothing about that beyond exclaiming, "Wow, he's skinny!"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:52 (ten years ago)
did he use a double for that? (is that what you mean by stunt?)
― jill's got heroin (rip van wanko), Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:55 (ten years ago)
yeah pretty much everything chastain and pena do is tied to their military bearing
― balls, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)
it took a hundred posts for someone to mention buttocks.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:58 (ten years ago)
Sandra Buttock was in the other lost in space film.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:46 (ten years ago)
I thought it was pretty clear that Damon did not go all method in this and go from ripped to starving for the shoot. You never see his face in that butt scene; he's conspicuously drying his head with a towel.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:47 (ten years ago)
my guess is he lost a lot of weight (as seems evident in some later scenes) but didn't lose enough for the audience to *notice* so they got a body double.
― ryan, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:49 (ten years ago)
that scene pissed me off
― 1998 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:50 (ten years ago)
Actually he did lose a lot of weight for the production. Here's what he looked like before he lost all that weight:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRYR0ZSVAAAu6kG.png
― polyphonic, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:50 (ten years ago)
Moon, man.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:50 (ten years ago)
The Martian nom'd for Best Musical/Comedy by the Golden Globes
(they didn't specify which)
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 December 2015 15:39 (ten years ago)
still haven't seen it
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2015 15:41 (ten years ago)
still not missing anyting
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:13 (ten years ago)
i feel like about 30% of his dialogue starts with something like "hey pal!" like "hey pal, you listen, in america we have this thing called getting the job DONE!" or "hey pal, get off my back - your eastern sense of honor isn't going to help us find that cocaine!"
doctor casino i've incorporated these into my memory based screenings of BLACK RAIN
― nomar, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:22 (ten years ago)
There's tons of disco in The Martian so I'd say musical.
― Ballistic: ILX vs. Sever (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:42 (ten years ago)
it was kind of weird that they cast so many comedy people in the martian given how unfunny the 'jokes' are.
was it a joke that 'starman' was considered disco?
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:59 (ten years ago)
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hey pal, go get your own movie! sometimes you have to be your own man, you know what i'm saying? ahhh, hey, pal... who am i kidding - you don't understand a word i'm saying.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:11 (ten years ago)
crazy story abt the guy who played the main villain in that movie:
In 1988, Matsuda was diagnosed with bladder cancer, before shooting began for Black Rain. Matsuda refused chemotherapy, as he thought it would affect his ability to act in the film.[4] After his death, his first wife, who had experienced him ignoring an ear infection until it required surgery to prevent deafness, wrote that she suspected that he did not actually realize the seriousness of his illness.[4] During the filming, he was urinating blood. By the time shooting finished, in March 1989, his cancer had spread to his spine and lungs, making it inoperable. On October 7, 1989, Matsuda was hospitalized. A month after he was admitted, Matsuda died at 6:45 PM JST on November 6 at the age of 40, at a Tokyo hospital.
― nomar, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:22 (ten years ago)
per People interview: Obama’s favorite movie of the year
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:33 (ten years ago)
xpost jesus, that's awful.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:37 (ten years ago)
There's a local small town booster advertisement near where I get my haircut, one that has a photograph of our historic local movie theatre. And one of the films up on the marquee, along with Iron Man 2 a and a few other things, is Robin Hood. And every time I see it I have to remember that, oh yeah, Ridley Scott made a Robin Hood movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:55 (ten years ago)
I liked The Martian fine--the rescue (hokey enough to make Errol Flynn blush) moved me, I enjoyed the obvious soundtrack (I don't think "Starman" was there as disco), the 150 minutes went by quickly. Ridley Scott's 78 now; thought Damon's final speech to his class might have been Scott's reflection on getting a film made.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 02:53 (ten years ago)
Such an amazing feat that Ridley Scott was able to reshoot, in so little time, several torpid, sedentary scenes of people talking in large rooms.— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) January 11, 2018
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2018 19:45 (eight years ago)
Watched the first episode of Raised By Wolves and Scott sure loves overt biblical allegory - especially after the death of his brother. Going to give it one more episode, but I'm not into this so far.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 September 2020 23:32 (five years ago)
Yeah, there's about as much of a chance of me watching this as there is Westworld. I mean, I wish!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 September 2020 23:39 (five years ago)
It's terrible. Some lovely visual things, but also much recycled from his earlier work. Plus the acting, even by good actors, is terrible, and the writing is pure balls. Also some really terrible costume and design choices.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 September 2020 23:55 (five years ago)
The babies are creepy as hell.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 11 September 2020 00:37 (five years ago)
Would've been much cooler if Tony was alive and had made this IMO.
Watched "The Martian" for the first time since whenever it came out. 1) Forgot how many people are in this! Jessica Chastain, Donald Glover, Kirstin Wiig, Sebastian Stan, Michael Pena, Chiwetel Ejiofor , etc. 2) This really could have been made by anyone today, any workmanlike straight to Netflix director, which is a credit to Ridley Scott, in a backhanded/roundabout way, because the direction is so smart and so chill and so straight forward for him. Like, his next movie was "Alien: Covenant," basically the bizarro version of this one. 3) Refreshing as always to see a movie about math and science and engineering and solving problems. Few and far between.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 February 2021 02:51 (five years ago)
I thought that making all of the problem-solving on the surface into a montage was a big mistake. That was the thing people liked about the book. Not the disco jokes.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Thursday, 18 February 2021 04:48 (five years ago)