RIDLEY SCOTT

why yie-odda..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_(2002_film)#/media/File:Solaris2002poster.jpg

http://www.impawards.com/2002/posters/solaris_verdvd.jpg

http://derricklferguson.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/s-0080_solaris_quad_movie_poster_l.jpg

I rescree- saw Prometheus a couple days before this and thought:

the dust storm
the one person left behind in the storm
a survivor waking up in the dust with the system alarm alerting the survivor they were short on oxygen
the abdominal injury/surgery that required staples

were at worst pretty repetitive and at best rather coincidental between the two films.

That said, I liked both Prometheus and The Martian and am anticipating Prometheus 2: The Martian Chronicles when it comes out.

felt so bad for k wiig the sad PR lady everyone had to explain with great exasperation LoTR references and science

soderbergh's solaris is underrated. one of clooney's best movies.

though im not a fan of the original. the fact its always cited as the benchmark for sci-fi, or what sci-fi could be, if you know, it was less exciting, more ponderous, and less interesting, and far longer than it needs to be, probably makes me dislike it more (it might be one of those things where its self-satisfied supporters and fans make you hate the thing theyre a fan of more than you otherwise might). perhaps i need to watch it again though. all i remember thinking while watching it the first time was 'great shots of water'.

https://twitter.com/markcousinsfilm/status/649978676243730432

As I watched new sci fi film The Martian, I thought of Billy Wilder's great Ace in the Hole/The Big Parade. Then it became something softer.

Tarkovsky is boring as all hell.

Even though the drama/suspense was slight, I thought it kinda refreshing that it didn't adhere to the 'just when you thought the situation couldn't get any worse, it gets much worse' spiral that a lot of films have instead of a satisfying plot. Apollo 13 comparison is spot on too.

How does it compare to Moon?

It's quite different, lacks Moon's sense of slowly approaching dread, it's very much like Apollo 13, tonally.

ive yet to see mirror, but i found myself exasperated by stalker and solaris.

moon is more like 2001. the martian is more like a youtube tutorial.

"I thought it kinda refreshing that it didn't adhere to the 'just when you thought the situation couldn't get any worse, it gets much worse' spiral"

this is what i think, sort of, but i cant help thinking that there must be something better, than this, to replace the old rescue movie/survival movie arc with.

The Maryian = "I Fucking Love Science: The Movie"

This was Not For Me. I walked out halfway through.

Tarkovsky is boring as all hell.

― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, October 6, 2015 8:57 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Slow, maybe, but boring....no. There is more to unpack aesthetically, thematically and cinematically in a single frame of any Tarkovsky film than in the entirety of The Martian.

I loved a lot of the visuals in this, but the story was rough. The last hour was an incredible drag toward the inevitable. The palpable sense of danger that Gravity and Apollo 13 convey in very similar scenarios is absent in this. The disco jokes made me want to die.

The disco jokes made me want to die.

― polyphonic, Tuesday, October 6, 2015

qft

I walked in halfway through.

Heh

I will qualify my opinion by mentioning that I had a stressful weekend which might have predisposed me to be impatient with this movie

I walked in halfway through.

― hunangarage, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 19:26 (2 hours ago) Permalink

he was walking out, i was walking in...

If people on this hack director thread want to diss Tarkovsky a fitting punishment ought to be to watch this shite all the way through

man travels all the way to mars without taking any of his own music, then has the temerity to bitch about someone else taste in tunes for two hours. eat a bad spud & die, ya big shitfarmer

Also, "Hot Stuff" isn't the least disco song she has. It's more disco than several other songs in the movie!

that one guy bragging about finding an original pressing of abba's greatest hits, what a fucking n00b

maybe if you found one on mars, now that would be rare

this is what the orig swedish version looks like btw, much cooler i think:

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this movie is so tepid. i wouldnt have minded 'robinson crusoe on mars' but this is more like 'mcgyver on mars'

Robinson so-so

Enjoyed this, and the book, to different amounts. But then again, I have two engineering degrees and went to Space Camp when I was 13.

Reading the book first definitely made the movie better, since I knew all the bits they chopped out, and really, did they chop out a lot.

Even when I read the book, I did think the disco jokes were some weak back shit. The script trimmed back some of the character's goonier aspects, tho.

If nothing else, I dug it as a big Hollywood movie depicting smart people doing smart people shit.

Openly laughed when the "Calculations correct" graphic showed up on the screen, tho.

Also, for a pg13 film, they got away with saying "fuck" twice

Slow, maybe, but boring....no. There is more to unpack aesthetically, thematically and cinematically in a single frame of any Tarkovsky film than in the entirety of The Martian.

People always say stuff like this about Tarkovsky, and while I've no doubt that The Martian is pretty rubbish, a: the whole "a single frame contains more artisanal human emotion blah blah" is hyperbolic bollocks when said about pretty much ANYTHING, and b: I'm a relatively sophisticated film watched, I've studied film, I've studied photography, I 'get' slow cinema, I have no issue with films from different countries, I used to run an academic film library, and I STILL think Tarjovsky is boring bollocks.

I kinda liked this (which continues my streak of liking most recent Ridley Scott films). it was a lot weirder than it initially comes across, almost anti-drama in its insistence on problem solving. movies as engineering.

Can't help but imagine Scott thought of himself as Watney throughout production. Sciencing the shit out of cinema.

Openly laughed when the "Calculations correct" graphic showed up on the screen, tho.

― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, October 14, 2015

OTM. i was like, this is the science-y science movie of science i was promised?

"used to run an academic film library, and I STILL think Tarjovsky is boring "

http://media.aphelis.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TARKOVSKY_1975_Mirror_00-33-30.jpg

I've commented on this elsewhere, but -

As much as I liked the book a lot more (there is more in the book to like), and as much as I think this movie was only OK (would have made a better mini series), it nonetheless features a diverse, non-patronizing cast of women and persons of color in important roles solving problems with math and physics, was appropriate for younger viewers and featured (a la Interstellar, actually) no guns, shooting or military fetishism. Frankly, as a father of girls that means a lot to me, and more than makes up for its many deficiencies.

had not even considered the possibility of taking my daughter to see this, that's good news

there was military fetishism, it was just something that resembled the actual military instead of michael bay american flag flapping in the wind-woman holding a young child near a barn-voiceover monologue beginning w/ the word "gentlemen" corny bs military fetishism

There was NASA fetishism for sure, but iirc not a single person in military uniform or in a position of ranked authority, and again not a single gun on display, not even as a sidearm. Two of the astronauts note they are military, but only in the fleeting context that they may be court martialed for mutiny. Am I forgetting something?

I took my older one, who is 11. The only issue at all was an early scene where he staples shut a gory wound, which made her cover her eyes and turn away.

his buttocks are in full view, let's not forget

His stunt buttocks. Weirdly, she said nothing about that beyond exclaiming, "Wow, he's skinny!"

did he use a double for that? (is that what you mean by stunt?)

yeah pretty much everything chastain and pena do is tied to their military bearing

it took a hundred posts for someone to mention buttocks.

Sandra Buttock was in the other lost in space film.

I thought it was pretty clear that Damon did not go all method in this and go from ripped to starving for the shoot. You never see his face in that butt scene; he's conspicuously drying his head with a towel.

my guess is he lost a lot of weight (as seems evident in some later scenes) but didn't lose enough for the audience to *notice* so they got a body double.

that scene pissed me off

Actually he did lose a lot of weight for the production. Here's what he looked like before he lost all that weight:

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Moon, man.