2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

"I'm sorry I said it" vs. "I'm sorry I got caught" : Hillary apologizes for offending minorities.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080313/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_s_apologies

Worse still: Sorry for associating Obama & Jackson by mentioning them in the same sentence a couple of times? Hillaryous.

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lol!

I really can't stand Olbermann's style. I so much prefer someone who can calmly dissect an issue with an awesome vocabulary over this blustering hyper-emotional personalized rant thing he has going on. Every time he says something like, "YOU, Mister President!" I cringe.

The special comment used to only happen 2 or 3 times a year, at most, when Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld would do something absolutely appalling. Now he whips them out 1 or 2 times a month, usually over something that no one will remember in a couple weeks. I guess someone's got his ear and they're telling him the public eats it up.

Has anyone checked the sales of his book lately?

Seriously y'all, I used to love MSNBC the most of all the cable news outlets, but since late last year both Matthews and Olbermann have been almost insufferable.

usually over something that no one will remember in a couple weeks.

That says more about the number of appalling things they do than about him exaggerating, IMHO.

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...sigh

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you know what, those just aren't going to show up, are they.

three images per post

did anyone else have classmates who thought it was hysterical to mark "pacific islander" for their race on state tests?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knBNX_evIOo

hahaha zomg corny fag rapping for hillary.... please please more viral video like this, clinton supporters, show the nation just how hip and with it you really are.

"we don't need no bling / we got the real thing"

I was just about to post that... I think we've found our Hillary/Ferraro '08 theme song.

omg bottom left chubby toque dudes dancing amaze

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lolololololololol

interesting that hillary is incapable of making her get off the tv

sooo you want to be president but you cant even get ferarro to stfu?

no way is ferarro going to turn down an opportunity to appear relevant, no matter how wrongheaded and damaging to the clinton campaign this is.

Elmo I saw that yesterday and wondered what sorority was having its rush week.

i simply don't understand how Ferarro, who has even characterized her own VP candidacy as being predicated entirely on her gender, continues to bluff as an elder stateswoman. give it a rest, lady.

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ok this is really cracking me up especially the shamrock apostrophe - plz dissuade me from buying it

go for it dude!!!11

A golden Ferraro oldie from her '98 Senate campaign:

Every time Gerry Ferraro runs for office, she is caught in the crosshairs of her husband's sleazy business practices. Now she's positioned herself for casino gold by dumping the partner who found her Foxwoods deal.

The woman who would be senator has made a career out of hostile denials about the escapades she joins in with her husband. They got her in trouble with the House Ethics Committee and the Federal Elections Commission in the mid '80s. Her only response to the mob charges in 1992 was that they were anti-Italian. Her know-nothing defense forced the Times's Maureen Dowd to conclude, "She does not seem to feel that as a former prosecutor, a public official and a savvy woman who was listed as an officer in her husband's real estate company, she should have made it her business to know more about 'John's business.'"

xpost yeah you have to buy it

Her only response to the mob charges in 1992 was that they were anti-Italian.

!!! It's beginning to look like we could make a whole book out of these

btw, barney frank owes his entire political career to being a left-handed gay jew. just fyi.

looks like jeremiah wright is back in the focus

i <3 barney frank - congressman from my hometown!

xpost - yea, apparently the comments are old, though, and obama already addressed them. they're just getting more attention now because a video was released

deej, there's definitely an effort to ignite a wright controversy, yeah, but with spitzer and ferarro dominating political coverage, i don't think many of the major media outlets are going to persue it -- not enough space of the page. the timing is hell of suspicious, too, pretty obviously the clinton camp wants this to play now so as to soften the impact of ferarro's comments.

wtffff and nobody is talking about MACKEREL-SNAPPER HATER THE JEWS MUST BURN FOR CHRIST REV. HAGEE at all, this is utterly infuriating

mccain is alreay going to get free pass after free pass from the media, we need to get our own clusterfuck finished to actually go after him

i dunno gff the nytimes has shown that they're willing to change their tune about him; there have been two high-profile investigative pieces that are painting a "john mccain: for sale" portrait of the guy.

i think with the right prodding the media may start to get bored of its hero tales about mccain. "john mccain: straight shooter" has become such a (fictional) truism that it's a little too "dog bites man" at this point. the press may need a reversal to keep their own interest in the story up.

I still find it troubling that Obama won't sever his ties with that guy, though. There are plenty of black churches and preachers around where you're not going to get an earful of crap like "The KKK runs America".

(The KKK in 2008, by the way, couldn't run a donut shop)

I still find it troubling that Obama won't sever his ties with that guy, though. There are plenty of black churches and preachers around where you're not going to get an earful of crap like "The KKK runs America".

you think just maybe he was using the kkk as a provocative way of referring to white supremacy?

Why only vanilla frosting?

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Wright's latest remarks are indefensible. This probably will become a story soon.

i dont know what on earth reason he would have to 'sever ties' with his pastor, and he's been going to that church for years so just switching to one of the 'plenty of other black churches' would probably not be the best political move

I met a guy at a cooking class a few weeks ago who told me he and his wife go to Obama's (Wright's) church.

Wright's latest remarks are indefensible. This probably will become a story soon.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:59 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

plz post 'indefensible' remarks

I met a guy at a cooking class a few weeks ago who told me he and his wife go to Obama's (Wright's) church.

-- jaymc, Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:59 AM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

my coworkers at my last job did

Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism."

In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.

Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.

Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon. "The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification," Obama said in a recent interview. "It sounds like he was trying to be provocative," Obama told the paper.

Rev. Wright, who announced his retirement last month, has built a large and loyal following at his church with his mesmerizing sermons, mixing traditional spiritual content and his views on contemporary issues.

"I wouldn't call it radical. I call it being black in America," said one congregation member outside the church last Sunday.

err i just watched the video now. yea hillary's campaign is gonna be stirring up some shit about this.

internal numbers from the latest Rasmussen PA poll:

Comments by former Democratic Vice Presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro have caused a stir nationally and 66% of Likely Democratic Primary Voters have been following the story at least somewhat closely. Ferraro recently told a newspaper that "if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position." Clinton voters are fairly evenly divided on Ferraro’s comment—39% agree and 47% disagree. Obama voters overwhelmingly reject Ferraro’s premise—93% disagree with her statement while only 4% agree.

Sixty-two percent (62%) of Black voters believe Ferraro’s comments were racist. Just 23% of White voters agree.

Yes Alfred I've read the article

Clinton voters are fairly evenly divided on Ferraro’s comment—39% agree and 47% disagree.

these are better-than-expected numbers

You're welcome.

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to some degree i even agree - i think that the historic nature of obama's candidacy clearly takes some of the shine off of the historic nature of hillary's candidacy.

Obama should just say he doesn't give a shit about God and get it over with.