that thing white ppl do when they disparage 'white ppl'

And that's a legit gash the stroller gave him on his leg around the corner from his calf.

"So I said a snarky thing, which the brothers say to me when I bump into them..."

He's a ding dong.

But nobody’s asking about golf shirt and Coke bottle glasses, why is he coming at me?

lol

according to one of my friends this dude is a total asshole who picked fights and yelled at him in public all the time

apparently just kinda terrorized fort greene park

he frequently finds himself in these situations

"I said, 'I pick up my dog’s shit every day so you can fuck your girlfriend in this park at night.' That made sense to him!"

xxp to iatee: that sounds about right

"My street cred, especially in the black community, in this city, is huge. I grew up on the West 4th Street basketball courts. I grew up multicultured. I grew up with Stonewall, I grew up on the laps of drag queens," he said.

lmao fuck this dork

wite dork

haha i keep picturing that dude in the bird jersey from do the right thing "i was born in brooklyn!!!!"

haha that scene is so great

my wife and I were laughing the other day imagining a terribly exploitative tv show (a la "Ow My Balls!" or "Where Are My Pants?") called "White Guy, Don't Do That!" which I guess would basically be this thread

prompted by a white guy we know claiming honorary affiliation with a different ethnicity

this is an epidemic these days. i end up reading way more centered on the ruling class than i do marginalized voices. this is the Great Flood of information and ppl dumping in another bucket of water.

you see this a lot with liberal media shows too (ala Sam Bee, who I love). I get by now that white cons are stupid and racist..but what can we do next?

white libs

haha

i end up reading way more centered on the ruling class than i do marginalized voices.

i think i see a way round this

lol

www.ilxor.com

The only appropriate response to 'hey, guys, haven't we maybe had enough of all the digging on white people already, huh?' is 'STFU'. IMO.

That thing white people do where every attempt at emulating any musical invention from the Caribbean, from dub production to soca rhythms, is called 'cod reggae'

that thing when u use "dudes" or any variation thereof when u must denote ur total disparagement of maleness

Lads

Ladsy lads are annoying imo

inclusive term, lads, remember

yeah sure but ladsy, boysy, big bold brash bollockses.

We're all dudes.

We're all Keynesians now, dude"

Even you there, with the glasses.

is it right to say that a lot of the arguing about this Sarah Jeong thing relates to this question of 'what is the correct way for white people to perceive their own whiteness'?

I think this thread is correct when it says that you are never going to get more than a minority of white people to sign up for the pov that 'white ppl are garbage' statements are good and accurate and shouldn't be objected to and that they deserve to be hated, and any plan that doesn't take this into account is doomed to failure

yeah. the basic flaw is asking people to (1) recognize that whiteness is constitutive of their identity and then (2) abandon or radically modify that identity, in a world where (2) is much harder to achieve than (1) and achieving (1) w/o (2) may be worse than achieving neither https://t.co/8LwC6in2Q8

— Park MacDougald 💅 (@hpmacd) July 27, 2018

like that 'women are entitled to hate men' article from the other month - it may be objectively right, but only a minority of men are ever going to agree, and even the ones that do agree can only do so in a compromised contradictory way, - that being the case, what does it mean in practice?

I see some white guys trying to square the circle by saying that it's all jokes, that when non-white ppl on twitter say "white men are bullshit" they don't really mean it - but this seems kind of presumptuous? I think people do mean it in general, or at least as much as people mean most of what they say.

you should probably get out more

The usage of "dudes" without hidden intent may be more regional than I thought.

100% of the "backlash" against the Sarah Jeong thing is being done in extreme bad faith by people who are all hot and bothered by Cernovich giving them a taste of blood b/c he was able to get Disney to cave. nearly all of them are Trump voters and most of them have racist shit on their TLs

The Root and VSB have written a whole assortment of short reads on this topic that covers most of what anyone could say. Anyone still mulling over that this is a both sides type of thing doesn't want to understand it.

90% of people in American have probably never heard of The Root and VSB though?

This was addressed to this thread and not the population of the world. But yeah, the people who read those generally are not centered around only white people/white men. I was going to link articles but decided it was fairly pointless.

you are never going to get more than a minority of white people to sign up for the pov that 'white ppl are garbage' statements

What? That's...not how any of this works.

otm

its how its not working alright

there are white ppl complaining that 'white ppl are garbage' type tweets are wrong and racist against white ppl, and other ppl putting a lot of effort into attempting to convince them that they're misguided and 'white ppl are garbage' type tweets aren't wrong and that by definition you can't be racist against white ppl - I don't think that they're ever going to convince more than a small minority of white people to take this view

Twitter isn't the world.

Granted, my friends and I made "men are trash" "white people are evil" remarks on fb all the time, explicitly to get kicked off since that is what fb likes to patrol.

but a lot of the 'you can't be racist against white people' people are also the people who push the idea that white people should be consciously, constantly aware of their own whiteness, both on twitter and in every other aspect of their lives, how everything you see, think, say, create, do is defined by your whiteness - from any art you might create or an intervention you might make in politics or charity or your love life and relationships with other people - none of it transcends whiteness

this seems implicitly crucial to a lot of people on the left's whole political project, I don't think it can just be limited to a few tweets. white people should simultaneously make whiteness a key, inextricable part of their self-image/sense of self, but that they should also be traitors to whiteness, fight against whiteness and not identify with it. In practice it seems usually leads either to hypocrisy and denial (white ppl who disparage 'white ppl' but do mental gymnastics so that they are somehow not included in that category, "I'm one of the good ones" etc) or this snake-eating-its-own-tail spiral of greater and greater displays of self-abnegation/"this is just another form of white supremacy/white narcissism/white complicity" etc/more self-abnegation

1. There's no such thing as being "racist against white people" because racism is systemic, not interpersonal. It doesn't matter what percentage of "people" (which people?) believe this, because just like no matter how many flat-earthers or anti-vaxers there are, it doesn't make their beliefs true-er or falser.
2. "White ppl are garbage" is not what anti-racism is about. At all. And in fact is almost certainly a construct meant to discredit anyone who can be framed as trying to increase equity or mitigate the harms of racism.
3. Like how are we even talking about this when every day my fb feed has a whole new story about a white person somewhere calling the police on a black person for giving out socks to the homeless or standing in their own damn yard or walking down a street or breathing air?

xp Idek what you're talking about tbh, you must be seeing something that I don't see. Also, get off twitter and go talk to some people who do this stuff irl.

It was the whiteness of the whale that above all things appalled me.

— Moby Dick (@MobyDickatSea) August 2, 2018

White people are beautiful garbage

soref , I am kind of lost too. Are you saying white people can't/shouldn't take responsibility or acknowledge a system that was designed to keep white people, especially white men, in economic and societal power because..(reasons), oh well?