TS: SHOWGIRLS vs. ROAD HOUSE

Pump and thrust

As for the finished product: I thought it was perfect. Otherwise I would have changed it.

<3 <3 <3

just bought this on blu-ray, it's still so great

everything in this interview shd go w/o saying but this is a great primer for ppl who still don't ~get~ this movie

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/showgirls-paul-verhoeven-on-the-greatest-stripper-movie-ever-made-20150922

i get it. you can have it.

I need to watch all Verhoevens films again. He's my god. Well, after Haneke.

i've been doing that myself in preparation for a thing i'm writing that may or may not ever get finished. anyway i've basically liked-to-loved everything except spetters

Verhoeven >>> Haneke (who I like very much)

Are you going chronologically, brad? Turkish Delight is special.

i'm glad he finally made a really good film last year

quiet morbs

anyway i did not go chronologically. i watched all of his american films and then made my way backwards and forwards with his dutch films. turkish delight was fun but also felt very light to me, so i don't really love it. the fourth man is fucking amazing however

oh, morbs, does that mean you don't like black book?

bc if so you're full of nonsense

I do. That and RoboCop, Total Recall are good as far as they go.

Turkish Delight is insane but in increasingly suspect ways as it hurtles toward death.

that's my problem with spetters

gonna steal that phraae for my gravestone xp

well yes my sundry opinions can be found in the general Verhoeven thread, after the retro a few months ago

my central problem w/ Showgirls is it's juvenile, and not in a way that personally appeals to me (ie not THAT gay)

movie is great altho the rape scene of the non-character is ...not doing what it thinks it is

So I was just checking on Jeffrey Schwarz's work, since I'm seeing The Fabulous Allan Carr later today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Schwarz

And I note re his upcoming projects:

Currently in development are feature documentaries about the making of Paul Verhoeven’s misunderstood masterpiece Showgirls

I saw this at Philly Pride today:

https://ctl.s6img.com/society6/img/_THbf5miovhdJYG8_2TTmc1043c/h_550,w_550/tshirts/men/greybg/white/~artwork,bg_FFFFFFFF/s6-0020/a/7849017_16134973/~~/you-dont-nomi-tshirts.jpg

Why are you not wearing it right now

omg love that tee

would wear a "brown rice and vegetables?!?!?" one too

tbh I am very over the "Versayce" joke but I really like that design

"I'm Afraid of Americans" originally appeared as a rough mix on the soundtrack to the film Showgirls (in which the chorus is "I'm afraid of the animals" instead of the later "I'm afraid of Americans")

"I'm afraid of the animals, I'm afraid of the woods" 🐾

I thought this thread would be taller

The fact that there is a 2 disc Blu-ray for Road House now makes me happy. Why yes I own it.

what are the extras??

Read up! I never got the special DVD edition so I believe a fair amount is ported over but I'm not positive.

https://www.shoutfactory.com/product/road-house-collector-s-edition?product_id=4718

Oh wait, they indicate it -- anything marked "NEW" was done for this release.

I mean, two separate documentaries on the stunts and the music, a full new documentary on the whole film, etc. etc. Like I said, of course I own it!

I kinda want that, but I gotta admit I'd pay $5 extra for a Super Special Edition that omitted this:

• Audio Commentary By Road House Fans Kevin Smith And Scott Mosier

Showgirls is classic

Ross YOU'RE classic

Road House is classic.

If there can be books on Showgirls there can be essay series on Road House.

Hey Roadhouse fans: @theseantcollins is doing the deepest of deep dives on it, Talmudic scholar-ly in nature, and it don't hurt. It's real good, mijo:https://t.co/Bm6K5LnTnj

— Bill Corbett (@BillCorbett) January 9, 2019

I finally watched roadhouse and I guess I liked it? I have this annoying tic now where I involuntarily start analyzing the class politics of every film and I found this one weird in its generation of the petit bourgeoisie against both the working poor and the capitalist. All about reinstating order and hierarchy and also being tied to the land. Maybe even a little bit fascist. I’m not fun at parties and that’s actually true.

*veneration. Not generation.

I suspect you're on target, not that i'm going to reWatch it to find out.

Certainly THE OSCAR is more watchable than either of these (in terms of movies that SUCK because all three of them SUCK).

Pain dont hurt

i've stopped watching films and tv altogether because of the overanalyzing tic

i will say that, of the theoretical distaff variants, i would definitely watch "Road Girls" before I would watch "Show House"

girl house > road show

I also kept getting stuck on why a guy named “Brad Wesley” is a Jewish stereotype played by an Italian actor.

Ultimately this one just tries a little too hard at saying something to be enjoyable as pure trash.

Jeff Healey sucks. Terrible singer, cliched guitar player.

I guess I didn't get a Jewish stereotype? Roadhouse is more of a Western to me, Wesley is the classic evil mining big shot who runs the town

anyway, I love Roadhouse it's inspiring in how dumb and entertaining it is

Yeah I guess he could just be indeterminate big city rapacious guy. Maybe because Ben Gazzara already looks like he could be Jewish is why it read that way to me.

Swayze definitely seemed to be channeling Bruce Lee’s “I have just killed Chuck Norris” face a couple times

Why hasn't this been reincarnated as a poll?

bc and i say this loving both films it is obviously showgirls

one other (probably obvious) observation is that the movie is not subtly homoerotic throughout (even though he literally rips the throat out of the only guy in the film who admits it) and the straight romance feels like the least convincing part of the movie, although maybe that's just because I don't find kelly lynch very attractive.