Panel Discussion - The ILX Comic Strip Poll Results

Today I saw that Fantagraphics are bringing out Barks reprints in a small, two rows per page paperback format, so that the story looks more like a newspaper strip than a comic book. Are Fantagraphics fucking with Barks' page layouts when they present the work in this way?

http://www.fantagraphics.com/goldenhelmet/

yes, but the early works were heavy grid layouts.
i think those reprint books are meant for kids

Hey, Fantagraphics, maybe instead of indulging your unsavory tendency of reissuing multiple versions of the same material, you could maybe put a little more effort into keeping the less-than-a-year-old output from your other Duck project in print: http://www.amazon.com/Walt-Disney-Uncle-Scrooge-Donald/dp/1606997815/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1442605166&sr=8-8

(P.S. If anyone can hook me up with a copy of that Don Rosa slipcover set for less than $2,342, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm looking more in the $1,500 price range, if possible.)

lol, i have a copy. had no idea it went out of print so fast

Both of those are marked as

✔ In stock

I'll sell it to you for $1500. It might not ship from my house...

(P.S. If anyone can hook me up with a copy of that Don Rosa slipcover set for less than $2,342, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm looking more in the $1,500 price range, if possible.)

$110 at abebooks

instead of indulging your unsavory tendency of reissuing multiple versions of the same material

also is there anything at all they've done this with in the last 35 years apart from making eg baseball-themed Peanuts collections for the gift market, and colour Sunday collections of Peanuts strips that they last-and-only issued an edition of over a decade ago? not counting Free Comic Book Day or Love & Rockets Sampler giveaways?

http://i.imgur.com/wu1X3rK.jpg

haha she always has to hide her binge eating.

http://i.imgur.com/uo5usY3.jpg

=21: DINOSAUR COMICS by Ryan North (123 points, 5 votes)
qwantz.com

Spiritual sequel to Lunch’s Angriest Dog, in which the exact same panels get new dialogue every week or whenever.

http://www.qwantz.com/comics/comic2-590.png
http://www.qwantz.com/comics/comic2-762.png
http://www.qwantz.com/comics/comic2-1838.png

lol *Lynch

=21: HARK! A VAGRANT by Kate Beaton (123 points, 6 votes)
Hark! A Vagrant

Perhaps the greatest success of the third webcomics era, Beaton literally went from posting napkin scrawls on livejournal to the NYT bestseller list. Without continuing characters or a regular schedule, and flitting from one semi-esoteric interest to another, a huge audience has accumulated simply for Beaton's sensibility. Historical costumes, bad childrens novels, feminist heroes, fat ponies and sketchbook diaries about her family all jumble together on one site, with Beaton's loose, vibrant line and sense of humour the unifying factor.

http://www.harkavagrant.com/history/poevernesm.png
http://www.harkavagrant.com/history/Suffragettesm.png
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/books/HOPUB/BEETHOVENBIRTHDAY_dec_lrg._V390133988_.jpg

http://alarm-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/brontessm.jpg
https://41.media.tumblr.com/6f41f57d829f2fd48427c2b232123bde/tumblr_mirk1aMlnZ1rnxlaxo1_500.png
http://www.harkavagrant.com/history/franklinfinal.png

http://www.harkavagrant.com/nonsense/spidermansm.png
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5zv2eB63v1qbb9d7o1_500.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/8/80884/1666555-rahrahrandall.png

Rah!Rah! The Comic Strip Poll resumes

Boooooooo! to Dinosaur Comics

19: CUL DE SAC by Richard Thompson (124 points, 8 votes)
The Complete, in paperback

Already a busy illustrator and cartoonist of the weekly panel Richard's Poor Almanac, Thompson added a daily to his schedule in 2007. Lasting five years before his retirement due to Parkinsons, it brought a liveliness of attitude, line, colouring and sheer cartooning ability to an American newspaper landscape that appeared beyond such things. A spiritual sequel to Peanuts and especially Calvin & Hobbes in its focus on the interior lives of pre-schoolers (and sometimes the travails of the adults dealing with them, and how much of a childish spirit one can carry into a world of adult responsibilities), the strip remains resolutely underivative, with entirely distinct characters. If the entire marketplace wasn't terminal, and the strip's life so unfortunately curtailed, Alice and Petey Otterloop would be going down in history as the last great characters of the American newspaper comics page.

http://www.heroesonline.com/images/blog/creators/thompson-r_cul-de-sac_donuts.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D4lxVYwvFTY/UJD723ulJJI/AAAAAAAAGMo/EmwitLEGbnA/s640/halloween+cul+de+sac.gif
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zsGvAGhnu7c/TBSEJRHOT3I/AAAAAAAAAas/B69z2JCOETQ/s1600/dim.gif

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3_P7eJQLZ54/THFbEoh2leI/AAAAAAAACmc/DcWo--xp29w/s1600/Picture+12.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3_P7eJQLZ54/TOlcPG_3puI/AAAAAAAACzE/7hCcaU_0_GQ/s1600/Picture+1.png
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/comic-riffs/StandingArt/culdesacneuro1.gif

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/comic-riffs/StandingArt/culdesacneuro2.gif

best strip in generations

Also, I realized comics.com has Richard's Poor Almanac reruns so I'm getting to read new (to me) Thompson work.

Didn't realise there was a complete Cul De Sac, wish list time

yeah cul de sac is wonderful stuff, best american newspaper strip since calvin and hobbes easily

18: MAAKIES by Tony Millionaire (125 points, 6 votes)
Maakies.com

The actual bar-room scrawlings of a sentimental drunkard obsessed with old houses and Patrick O'Brien are transmuted into one of the most profane and prettily drawn strips of the second (and final) alternative paper era. More sex, suicidal ideation and detailed drawings of 18th century sailing ships than any other newspaper strip ever. At first, the annual collections being named after beloved children's books seemed a deliberate perversity, but Millionaire eventually spun off his style and versions of his character into actual comics and picture books for children. Maakies itself continues to plow a bloody, vomit-strewn path across those alt-weeklies that still have some semblance of a budget, as well as having been in print from Fantagraphics for fifteen years and online almost as long.

It's worth noting, in this historically-focused poll, that Maakies may be the first strip in sixty years to launch with a topper – the accompanying strip runs underneath the main feature, and varies in nature from week to week, rather than being a recurring subject. (Also by far the most recent entry in the poll to have a TV adaptation? subs plz check)

https://comicsagogo.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/maakies-booger.jpg

http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/e4a3/maakies.jpg

http://buzzdixon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Maakies-Drunk-Home.jpg

http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/f543/maakies.gif

http://pullquote.typepad.com/pullquote/a_meeting.gif

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1821/poohmaakies.jpg

here's that last strip again:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/kitbrash/poohmaakies_zps04mjxeqi.jpg

Never seen that one before, like a number of the alt-weekly strips here. Seems pretty groovy, and obviously meant for being printed large.

yah Maakies is great, I kinda remember Cul De Sac from the dailies but it didn't make an impression on me at the time, another thing for the wish list

http://www.citypaper.com/blogs/the-news-hole/bcpnews-why-were-not-running-maakies-anymore-20150417-story.html

ick, thanks I guess

17: ACME NOVELTY LIBRARY by Chris Ware (126 points, 5 votes)
No longer under the Acme title, but here's his latest newspaper strip

Broadly acknowledged as one of the most metciulous, creative, insightful, intelligent and depsressed cartoonists of the last quarter-century, Ware rarely gets recognised as an artist who took the opportunity of the alternative newspaper page to develop many of his styles and stories. Starting in Chicago's New City, then moving to the Chicago Reader (and an array of magazines and alternative papers), Acme Novelty Library could serialise a 500-page graphic novel one week, switch to a bigfoot sci-fi parody the next, and recur to tiny, intricate panels of miserable everymice a fortnight later. As his mainstream career has exploded in the wake of the collected major Jimmy Corrigan storyline, he has continued to serialise different works in Chicago and outlets such as the Grauniad and New York Times.

http://www.entrecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/acme-novelty-library-1-11.jpg

http://quimby.gnus.org/warehouse/anl3/anl3-1.gif

http://www.jlroberson.org/scansdaily/ware_tales_tomorrow2.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/ba3a530813389ab9ce5337b23302f78a/tumblr_mjt9gpOuAs1rhjbado1_500.jpg

http://paul-server.hum.aau.dk/pics/comics/acme-novelty1.jpg

http://www.jlroberson.org/scansdaily/ware_rocket2.jpg

http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/015.jpg

Always 'admired' Ware more than 'loved' him, but Rocket Sam and Big Tex both brought a lot of sad LOLs in college.

i love this thread. and i want me some cul de sac.

Here's the not-loading-properly strip from that bunch:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/kitbrash/acme-novelty-god_zps6ccplbia.jpg

http://static.rookiemag.com/2012/11/1354015601ACME-17-540x842.jpg

https://consequentialart.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ware11.jpg

http://www.jlroberson.org/scansdaily/WARE1.jpg

http://www.adambaumgoldgallery.com/text_messages/alice_meets_the_rich_girlsWB.jpg

http://www.jlroberson.org/scansdaily/ware_rusty1.jpg

http://blog.comicsgrid.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/His-Face.jpg

http://www.adambaumgoldgallery.com/Ware/25_building_stories_springWB.jpg

I have such respect for his work, but I find it so profoundly depressing and bleak.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/09/12/books/cowles-big.jpg

http://www.comicdom.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/quimbylarge01.jpg

http://www.fumettologica.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Chris-Ware-ACME-20-adolesc%C3%AAncia.jpg

no idea what stevie's talking about obv

obviously an incredible stylist and always a joy to look at, but yeah he's kind of a chore to keep up with (both financially and emotionally)

you're out of your mind if you don't find the vast majority of ware's work depressing.

I find the humor (often cruel and perhaps unintentional) outweighs the depressing for me - but I think that's a case of just not being emotionally invested in his characters, who are often victims of their own stupidity, vanity, delusions, etc. and not really all that sympathetic.

like I don't really feel sorry for Jimmy Corrigan or Rusty Brown

16: DILBERT by Scott Adams (131 points, 7 votes)
The principals of America's Greatest Comics Publisher debate Dilbert.

A guy with, let's assume, some degree of social alienation observes office life, draws about it terribly but somewhat accurately and insightfully for 26 years, decides that he is an actual wizard with the ability to rule the country.

http://my.ilstu.edu/~shagberg/dilbert/001-dilbert960502-3323.gif

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/steverumsby/2007/01/20/dilbert20070112217720.gif

http://mworthington.co.uk/jalbum/Mark/Comedy/Dilbert/slides/Dilbert,%20Workload.jpg

Are you sure Scott Adams didn't have sock puppet accounts voting?

At the risk of comics rockism: Dilbert was best very early on, with the dinosaurs and the dog's world-domination plots, trips to Elbonia and Dilbert's bad dates (ripped from the pages of Garfield). The office stuff was always there IIRC but it was more like 60-70% of the strips early on. Even as it found its niche and the office observational gags took over, they were still quite funny for a while there I think.

i liked dilbert a lot in 6th grade bc i liked drawing dogbert.

BTW I wrote that blurb months ago before Adams' latest blogtroversy, but in case anyone missed the one I'm referring to: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/126916006856/wizard-wars

scott adams is what dave sim would be like if he were 18% less crazy, 500% more rich and american

oh and if he couldn't draw of course

Oh cool were back to the good comics.

Feel like drabble's gotta be a lock for the top 10 now.

15: FOXTROT by Bill Amend (137 points, 7 votes)
Classics on Universal.

The Fox family lives in a suburban setting. Several storylines in the strip have focused on summer vacation trips to various places. Early on, the Fox family spent summer vacation at "Uncle Ralph's Cabin". Later vacations by the Fox family have included trips to Hawaii, Washington D.C., the desert, various amusement parks (see Bury My Heart at Fun-Fun Mountain for an example), and campgrounds. In a series of strips though, references are made implying that they live in or near Chicago. However, Amend has denied this and claims that he has never given a particular location or name for where they live.

Early in the strip's run, FoxTrot often dealt with societal issues such as drug abuse.

http://vancouver-webpages.com/security/foxtrot.png

http://www.platypuscomix.net/otherpeople/foxtrot1.jpg

http://www.wutsamada.com/aol/lshauser/foxtrot.jpg

http://www.wutsamada.com/comix/binary.jpg

http://www.math.wustl.edu/~victor/classes/puzzles/ft1.gif

kill me now, but i found those dilberts funny