South Park: Classic or Dud?

oh right I had forgotten about this thing

fair dos

Knew this episode would be unpopular on Ilxor.

also, xp flappy-bird

ILXors selectively missing the many many parts of that episode where they actually side/agree with PC culture/goals is just as bad as "south park republicans" thinking it was a huge shot at PC CULTURE GONE MAD

The entire fucking thing was about coming to terms with the fact that society is changing and maybe doing a show run on handicapped and asian jokes for 19 years may not have been the best decision

"Because PC Principal [principle] is right, Kyle. You and I are bigots, and it's time for us to grow up."

"If I can face my prejudice, why can't you? We're two privileged, straight white boys who have their laughs about things we never had to deal with."

ffs

The entire fucking thing was about coming to terms with the fact that society is changing and maybe doing a show run on handicapped and asian jokes for 19 years may not have been the best decision

kind of a worthless mea culpa when a) they continue to mine those subjects for laffs and b) people complained about that shit 19 years ago too

I wonder if the makers of south park were to notice yr standard ilxor taking a standard ilx position on any one thing might they feel that perhaps that position had been noted, in its good and bad, in the majority of south park shows, my guess is that they might feel that it had so I'm wondering why standard ilxors are taking standard ilx positions itt.

the character meant to be imparting those ~lessons~ is beating the shit out of them.

the only part of the episode you could take "straight" was the elderly neighbors (aka Parker and Stone, increasingly estranged from their target audience) saying "welp, this is happening again, gonna blow over soon enough!"

What exactly is the standard ilxor position?

kind of a worthless mea culpa when a) they continue to mine those subjects for laffs and b) people complained about that shit 19 years ago too

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:35 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And they admit that too

Cartman: "[S]ometimes joking about un-PC things can actually be important, because it starts a dialogue. . . . What's wrong, Kyle? You have your cake. Eat it, too.

Stan: It just seems to me like we all lost in this, and that the only person who won was you.

standard ilxor postion?

To take something innocuous and blow it out of proportion just for the sake of being pissed off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USShHXK21ds

"ripped it off of chief keef"

Cool dialog bro.

haven't watched this show in eons

"pc" covers a rather wide spectrum, aside from whatever Bill Maher is bleating about in a given week

What exactly is the standard ilxor position?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:50 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the half of the outraged people watching south park who feel that the right wing was being boosted or not being satirised enough, yknow yourself.

Not outraged I just don't find "South Park is a victim of PC culture" very funny nor deep commentary on anything other than South Park.

The one "right wing" leaning SP moment that I often wonder about is the global warming mention in the now 10+ year old episode about future people coming back in time and taking everyone's jobs. The delivery made it sound like they weren't necessarily making a joke about "shit rednecks say", and were actually bashing global warming science (The line went something like "Even if global warming was real, which all proven scientific data shows it is not, how would that... etc."). I remember hearing something about them being friends with Penn & Teller who were also deniers at the time. But maybe I misinterpreted. If not, I wonder what they'd say about it now.

Like that was the whole point of the show, right? Freedom of speech being squashed for people with mainstream tv, movie, and Broadway hits.

Ie. the creators of South Park.

idk was it but I didn't watch it in your house iykwim

It didn't speak to me bc i don't have a hit tv show where people complain if i randomly have refugees show up for no reason. I can see it speaking to you if you think PC people need to be made upset as a means to an end.

You have to admit the ends was sloppy, like they were just throwing things at the screen hoping something sticks.

end

ah no, not as a means to an end or anything tbf

he one "right wing" leaning SP moment that I often wonder about is the global warming mention in the now 10+ year old episode about future people coming back in time and taking everyone's jobs. The delivery made it sound like they weren't necessarily making a joke about "shit rednecks say", and were actually bashing global warming science (The line went something like "Even if global warming was real, which all proven scientific data shows it is not, how would that... etc."). I remember hearing something about them being friends with Penn & Teller who were also deniers at the time. But maybe I misinterpreted. If not, I wonder what they'd say about it now.

― Evan, Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:40 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Uh . . . they made an entire episode about how global warming is fake and are still calling back to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManBearPig

Dont be so smug cant you tell how fair and evenhanded they are

It seems weird to do a current events episode all about PC stuff and have a frat and not address all the frat scandals that were big news. There were all these stories of frat houses in rape scandals and singing racist songs and stuff they could have mined for material.

why do these episodes all have to have a message at all? SP has a history of taking whatever's current and finding a way to subvert it into absurdity, ever since the "Butt Out" episode I stopped thinking they were earnestly trying to make a point about anything

Its weird to pretend they dont have an agenda or a consistent pov is all

They arent earnest, dont think anyone suggested that

I totally forgot about Man bear pig

Oddly I think the problem here is that show was not funny, see last several years of South Park.

I admit the Tom Brady thing got a laugh out of me

I thought that "we didn't listen!" episode was making fun of climate change deniers?

that they tend to make fun of "both sides" on any given issue is not really evidence of them being impartial, particularly when facts are involved and one side is a total fact-free zone, as with climate change.

I mean I guess it's nice that they acknowledge that they are having their cake and eating it too by doing politically irresponsible shit and simultaneously claiming that they are not saying anything politically relevant, but it still makes them assholes for doing it in the first place.

they could become bill maher

haven't they already?

unfunny racist atheists all look alike to me

oh

thx to goole for finding this link, which I think is helpful in deconstructing what exactly is wrong with South Park's "we make fun of BOTH sides!" defense when it comes to certain issues: http://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9214015/tech-nerds-politics

there's obvious overlaps between South Park and techbrotarian approaches. Probably not a coincidence that my first exposure to South Park was when some tech bros at Burning Man were passing around the original "Xmas Card"

south park should probably clarify that it was a goof

jjjusten with the only post the rly matters.

the obsession with whether or not a weekly cartoon satire agrees with yr personal POV or is right or wrong in the extent to which it does so is ..... idk. strange is a kind word maybe.

well, satire isn't funny when it's stupid

sp can do stupid funny p well bytimes. im not sure its always aiming and missing for the spots claimed itt, I guess.

nb I've not watched it regularly in years.

The virtual reality episode last season was pretty brilliant in a classic sci fi way.

The game(and tie-in eps) were really funny. Curious to see what they can do with the upcoming one.