a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

I faded out for the past several minutes. Just a white noise generator.

when in doubt, always end with the pledge of allegiance

I was in and out of the adjacent room listening, but I don't know, I must have missed parts. They're saying Walker helped himself tonight; I barely remember him speaking.

Chris Christie was 15 in 1980

Closing statements were pure SNL

Jon Daly posted this Carly gem:

https://instagram.com/p/7tnvqKGIq6/

Hottake crunchwrap, winners: fiorina, trump again, then paul and Christie (like from 1% to 2%)

goddam this was a mess. i feel like the heat was getting to these guys, all of them

one great moment of truth: trump saying that bush gave us obama because he was a disaster. of course it bricked. most amazing silence.

the vaccine segment between trump, carson and rand was legit the weirdest fucking thing i've seen on political television. i really can't believe i saw it. truly batshit

i lost track of how many of them promised to start a war in europe

the other nuances are frankly meaningless in light of the undeniable: all of these people are fantasists and maniacs and nothing they said promised anything except violence and misery to millions

all of these people are fantasists and maniacs and nothing they said promised anything except violence and misery to millions

this is kind of a beautifully written sentence

I agree!

on both points

One of the gawker live-bloggers posted a screengrab of it, but did anybody catch the audience member behind Tapper wearing a Rebel Flag tie?

https://www.facebook.com/jon.wurster/videos/10207646492179881/

Jon Wurster:
The least into a high-five any human has ever been.

https://vine.co/v/eU59mHr0b5P

http://carlyfiorina.org/

Still there

Just going thru all the live-blogging now, I dig this well-timed post from the Hillary campaign when the idiots were attacking the ability to speak spanish:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/644320364387037184

Hillary Clinton
‏@HillaryClinton

La libertad incluye el derecho de hablar en cualquier idioma. Eso nos hace fuerte como país y es algo que debemos celebrar—no denigrar.

6:22 PM - 16 Sep 2015

They should just release this entire season on Netflix.

You all would certainly binge watch it.

"The anxiety is unbearable; I hope it lasts"

the vaccine segment between trump, carson and rand was legit the weirdest fucking thing i've seen on political television. i really can't believe i saw it. truly batshit

frankly it was uncomfortable to watch carson fumble over his response to this, i turned off the video before it even got to paul.

the subconscious reason Dems/libs subject themselves to this, i'm sure, is so they can ultimately COME HOME TO HILLARY.

Also lamentations of your enemies iirc.

You all would certainly binge watch it.

Eh, I think I already know how it ends.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091010051518/theshield/images/2/27/7x13_Mackey-desk.jpg
Hillary Clinton, 2017.

I haven't been watching this year's clusterfuck. Has there been any moment as priceless as Perry's forgetfulness in the round of debates four years back?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/meet-the-new-hillary/405478/

“I like her better than a lot of other candidates—besides Bernie,” Jessica Differt, a crimson-haired 19-year-old student, tells me. “She’s definitely my number two if Bernie doesn’t win.” Differt, an aspiring comedian, is not too fazed by the emails—“I send stupid stuff all day, every day,” she says—but she feels like Hillary is too close to the big banks. Still, she would definitely take Hillary over any of the Republicans.

“Hillary is like a cool aunt, you know?” Differt says. “Like, you don’t want to tell her you’re pregnant, but you would tell her your boyfriend troubles. She’s nice, but she’s not my mom, you know?”

I haven't been watching this year's clusterfuck. Has there been any moment as priceless as Perry's forgetfulness in the round of debates four years back?

either scroll upthread to kingfish's post or search for #TrumpFace on Twitter

The Netflix series would end with Lindsay Graham in a California ashram, where he has a moment of enlightenment and comes up with the next great Coke ad.

http://i.imgur.com/UZVOrpv.jpg

"Hillary: She’s definitely my number two!"

lol pplains, amazing

trumpface makes me think of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3GmwHc5yJE

Lunch - Nothing like the Oops Moment or You're No Jack Kennedy, alas. Lots of fodder for speculation, but nothing that dramatically changed the dynamic of the race. Watching the whole bloody thing on Tivo in almost-real time, I got one impression. My wife, who skipped the watching but followed only the outrageous/mockable stuff on Twitter, got an utterly different impression.

If anything changed the dynamic it was the near total lack of dynamic, unless you count the long stretches where folks like Jeb or Cruz were just mum and then finally got to pipe in. Really it felt like watching a three hour bottle episode directed by Michael Bay or the like. The entire debate felt like this:
http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/9/89//con_air_3.png

Eh, I think I did because the Beltway press was ready at noon yesterday afternoon to appoint Fiorina the successor to Trump; now they congratulate themselves on putting their hopes on a person who's a Fisher Price Margaret Thatcher.

Dave Itzkoff ‏@ditzkoff 12h12 hours ago
BUSH I smoked pot 40 years ago
PAUL I’m into cannabis oil
CARSON I can write prescriptions
HUCKABEE I played bass on 3 Steely Dan records

Nothing like the Oops Moment or You're No Jack Kennedy, alas.

As these things go, I thought Fiorina's response to the Rolling Stone question was pretty dramatic. Trump looked completely chagrined, and then made things even worse with his response.

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/libresco-datalab-speaking-liveblog.png

That was my sense of Walker too, that he barely spoke. I don't know where CNN's panel got the idea that he helped himself.

Trumpface is not entirely working against his aesthetic, I'm just saying.

TS: Trumpface vs Bassface

Trump's constant mugging was p weird. I thought Christie did pretty well for himself but we'll see.

That was my sense of Walker too, that he barely spoke. I don't know where CNN's panel got the idea that he helped himself.

Barely speaking is how he helped himself.

Surprised it took Charles Pierce so long to say so:

If the elite political press is going to treat fiction as fact as long as the fiction is delivered in a compelling, dramatic manner, then the country truly is lost. If Carly Fiorina is adjudged to be the winner of a debate simply because of how "crisply" she delivered lies about Planned Parenthood, or how "forcefully" she responded to a cartoon like Donald Trump, or how "sharply" she presented her nonsense about reining in Vladimir Putin with "aggressive military maneuvers" on his borders, then there is a problem in the political process that is metastasizing by the hour. Ronald Reagan was the index patient for that problem. They truly are his children now.

It's not just that these nuts are so on message, it's that the message is so nuts. It's like they're all strictly adhering to the script of some crazy stage play.

Fiorina's orgiastic litany of military expenditures totally terrified my daughter (as did her extra-gruesome description of the PP videos, which I had to reassure her were lies/distortions)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPHf82KWEAAHD08.jpg

i mean

Jeb!

‏@ggreenwald
All the candidates at the Reagan Library talking about scary, evil Iran forgot to mention how Reagan secretly & illegally sold arms to them.

http://i.imgur.com/fdhijG5.jpg

Kind of interesting who got cropped out of that shot for Jeb!'s promo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPHf82KWEAAHD08.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gpvBJhT.jpg