a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

lex luthor once had his brain transplanted into a cloned body and pretended he was his own son (complete with shoulder-length red mane and abe lincoln-style beard), so yeah, it'd fit the supervillain-president narrative perfectly

psyched for the first showdown between mechanixon and donald trump's brain in eric trump's body wearing a green-and-purple battlesuit

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/16/1421659/-An-Evangelical-responds-to-Sanders-speech-at-Liberty-U?detail=facebook#

If this is the beginning of a trend, Hillary should be legitimately terrified. (I understand the magnitude of that "if" and I don't expect that this is a trend, but if it is... Sanders will walk to the Presidency if he can pull evangelicals out of the Republican camp.)

I thought it a cynical move at first, an attempt to steal headlines from Trump. But Ed Kilgore's take closely matches mne.

*mine

is it still an evangelical dogwhistle if they say "JEW" seventeen times

Those words echoed in my heart as I listened to that crazy, hoarse-voiced, wild-haired Jew standing in front of the religious leaders of the Evangelical Movement, calling us to account, as a Jew once did before, telling us that he intends to care for the least of these, to clothe the naked, to shelter the homeless, to care for the sick, to set the prisoners free.

Jesus...

Sanders: That Crazy, Hoarse-Voiced, Wild-Haired Jew in 2016

are you being deliberately obtuse here

Used to drive a blue car.

The wild-haired Jew from Freecloud.

There's still the big "A" to contend with with evangelicals.

i get your point dan, it's just a little unsettling for people with obviously disconnected ulterior motives to pin hopes and changes on a member of my ethnic group to lead them to a better day
you may know the feeling

he used to be a carpenter

A pretty knowledgeable friend of mine posted on FB that 30% of evangelicals vote for Democrats.

during the Carter era?

now

wouldn't surprise me. there's been a concerted effort, albeit pretty under the radar as far as I can tell, to connect Dem priorities w evangelical ones

that being said, I share forks' trepidation about Jews being used as an appeal to evangelicals, makes my skin crawl

http://trackingbibleprophecy.com/images/gog_magog_nations.jpg

it honestly would surprise me, but i don't have any firsthand knowledge that would refute it. however i would comfortably wager that 99.9% of that 30% live north of the mason/dixon or west of the continental divide.

and east of the Gog/Magog line

I know a good number of committed white Christian Democrats in Georgia; not sure how many are evangelicals though

Evangelical Christians skew strongly Republican in terms of their political orientation. More than half (54%) identify themselves as Republicans, compared with 35% of the total population. On the other hand, 22% identify as Democrats, compared with 33% of the total population.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/20242/another-look-evangelicals-america-today.aspx

since 22% self-identify as democrats, and some of the remaining evangelicals who don't self-identify as republicans or democrats end up voting for democrats as well, ~25-30% sounds plausible.

yeah there's a fair number of white christian dems in TN & MS (lots of catholics, episcopalian, non-crazy presbetyrians), but i honestly don't know a single evangelical irl who's to the left of Ted Cruz

I have a friend who's a part time preacher in a town outside Charlottesville who's almost as red as I am.

(strong possibility i know a disproportionate number of idiots & assholes)

wait, isn't red Republican?

I haven't heard the Sanders speech -- was Israel explicitly mentioned?

Heathens have different ways of defining "evangelicals."

republicans under the bed

I know several lefty american evangelicals but I move in academic circles so it sorta doesn't count

the righty ones I know care as much about school vouchers as they do abortion, thus, a lot

xxp not positive but i believe sanders has not been pandering in any way to evangelicals with the whole a-jew-shall-lead-us thing or excessive discussion of israel

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-official-gop-debate-drinking-game-rules-pt-2-20150916?page=3

re walker:

I like that Charles Pierce has been flagellating himself in his new articles for thinking scott walker was a dangerous threat. Dude is a fucking clown.

― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 14 September 2015 16:28 (2 days ago) Permalink

I could have you y'all that a long time ago. if you've actually had to watch him for 5+ years as i have, you recognize that he was by no means ready for prime time.

his three victories in Wisconsin can be chalked up largely to (a) an incompetent state democratic party (i cannot express how uninspiring his two opponents were) and (b) poor turnout in non-presidential election years. and his profound provincialism, which is obviously a problem in a national race, isn't as much of a problem when you're running in a state like this one.

his "favorability" in the state is low right now, btw. and it was never very high.

in any event, we're still stuck with him (and the horrifying GOP legislature) for a while. i apologize to his family, i guess, but scott walker is a completely worthless human being. that he can be even moderately successful with his particular mix of ignorance and cynicism says a lot about the faults of our political system.

i actually think walker's dopey visage, his tendency to let his mouth hang open, etc. actually has hurt him in the polls as much as anything else (although i wish it were just his ignorance and venality). he just looks the part of a dopey regional lightweight rather than a presidential candidate.

i mean

http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Scott-Walker-800x430.jpg

I think of him as a mulletless Pawlenty

He looks high

i should add that i don't think walker is really any more venal and ignorant than, say, rick perry.

he hasn't signed as many death warrants, for one thing.

i'm sure he would if he was in texas, though. sometimes you have to let go of the wheel and just take advantage of the opportunities to murder innocent people that god provides for you

he looked OK in a I-love-Ronnie's-haircut way in 1992. I'd a fucked him and told him his grandma I gave him the clap.

"him his grandma"?

lib hero Ann Richards also signed a bunch o' death warrants

it goes with Texas, like brisket and clock bombs

it goes with Texas, like brisket and clock bombs

Too soon.

http://i.imgur.com/kPihmiN.jpg

"him his grandma"?

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP)

oh c'mon

You never him

I loved he!

i hardly knew he

"I" was the name of his grandma

bobby jindal sounds like kermit the frog