itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

sick burn on wonder man croup

lol i first wrote 12th then 7th then was like uhhh honestly i have no idea where ant-man would rank or even who's been an avenger in comics over the last 20 years

they've gone w/ ringers like wolverine and spiderman so tenth seems very plausible

everybody is an avenger

avenging is a state of mind

Also, rights management.

rights management is a state of mind

odds are this movie is gonna do fine. dark knight rises and man of steel were on many levels of awful but made a billion and 660m respectively globally, and this a movie where those guys punch each other. and if ben really does walk away with the movie, it's possible a more bat-focused Justice League will do well too. the question is really more whether people will give enough of a shit about tertiary characters like Suicide Squad or Aquaman to do better than the 200m Green Lantern made (which sucks when your pre-advertising budget is 150m). Being able to make "flavor of the month" characters like those work is the real challenge.

it's funny that "schadenfreude" for this film is that it makes only 800 million dollars and gets bad audience buzz

Yeah, there's no way this is gonna be a Fantastic Four-level disaster.

Argo was excessively cartoonish to me, Mr Eisenberg, thx

Best to hype up the bad buzz so it seems like something challenging or original is being attempted.

The only challenge is deciding whether or not to raise ticket prices next summer.

there was some listicle about awful moments in superhero movies and there was a clip from batman forever that looked so awful, val's face looked like pete holmes as batman or something, and that movie did BETTER than Batman Returns so obv it takes a while for buyer's remorse to sink in with the batfans

though that movie did also come during our national love affair with jim carrey (liar liar did almost as well) so that probably gave the box office a boost

Behold, the most mythological of superheroes.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111163466/4376588-9916423251-Adam_.jpg

Some days you just can't get rid of a box office bomb...

i think suicide squad's probably going to be a big hit (i'm seeing more non-nerd memes and anticipation for it than for bvs tbh) but i'm skeptical of dc's ability to expand their cinematic universe beyond bats supes and wonder woman (and i could be wrong about how well the wonder woman movie will do). whereas, not to be mean, antman is probably the worst case scenario for marvel and was still a hit. there's a funny thing w/ dc now also where you have the fanboys going 'arrow and flash tv shows are so much better than the dc movies, so much closer to how it should be done' and then you follow up 'are arrow and the flash really great? should i watch them?' and they're like 'eh, they're ok. they're not daredevil.'

Hurting Jason Momoa's heart like that, balls. How will Aquaman thrive?

balls stop undermining the flash

there's def a world where suicide squad does ok but considering the relative failure of watchmen, the losers and ayer's sabotage i'm gonna be kinda ticked if david ayer can make a movie that merges aspects of those three movies with jared leto as the joker and it makes Mad Max Fury Road money and not, like, Watchmen money

Yeah, the Arrow and Flash shows are fun and watchable and they scratch that particular itch but it wouldn't take a whole lot to trump them and I probably wouldn't be watching them if there were more and better options along those lines. It's kinda like what would happen if those were the only two superhero comics DC put out.

how did focus do? (how is focus? i have it on my harddrive, should watch it eventually i guess) i think ppl may be wanting to like will smith again.

focus did oookkaaayyy for a Will Smith movie sold like a USA network original series esp considering all he's given us since Seven Pounds in 2008 is Men In Black 3 and After Earth. i agree there's an audience for a remojofied will smith, but dude's gone a deceptively long time without mojo

i'd probably be way more optimistic about suicide squad if i hadn't seen ayer's sabotage, which is basically a brutally shitty first draft of a suicide squad movie. but he seems to be aware it had problems, and while he's the writer/director i assume he's got a little more help with the script this time.

yeah he's still kinda dour in this one right, like his auditor told him he'll never be clear.

lol focus does look like a usa network show

but a good zing i read on sabotage was something like "if you can tell me anything about terence howard's character other than that he had a red car, you're more observant than me" and this movie has like 20 new-to-movies characters in it so i'm not expecting rich character work on katana

goddamnit sabotage is the movie i'm thinking of, i've had that thing in my netflix queue and have been looking forward to eventually watching it maybe three years from now and now you've gone and ruined that for me

on the plus side merielle enos (or however you spell it) actually does a solid Harley Quinn audition in it

All Ayer's best stuff are basically buddy movies, or at least about the love/hate dynamic between a central male partnership. Maybe he should have done Green Lantern/Green Arrow instead

it's embarrassing that this movie has been made. like for humanity.

Obviously Michael Pena would have to play one of the duo

iirc marvel was smart enough to lock Pena up for a while

pena was great in the antman

"I'm in the sizzim?"

really holding out hope that the last half hour = Bat vs Supes on the basketball court

batmen can't jump

Sabotage is genuinely the most painful to watch Schwarzenegger vehicle i've ever seen - it makes Red Sonja look like a masterpiece. I despised every character in it - just pure cinematic misery.

ugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fis-9Zqu2Ro

i heard someone describe the post2k DC movies as "hyperdramatic comic book takes on Alas Poor Yorick"
this looks worse than terrible
"who brought the chick har har m i rit"
is the new baddie meant to be doomsday
why should i give a fuck
i don't give a fuck

this honestly looks like a stand-out contender for worst movie ever made - like i am considering seeing it to confirm that

for that kind of viewing i can wait for cable

yeah probably otm

This looks tonally all over the shop. Plus I can clearly guess the entire plot. But I had an awful lot of fun watching that trailer.

eisenberg is going for a career low here, judging by the trailers.

why so serious?

I dunno this kind of looks deliberately a bit silly and campy to me? Maybe that's just the trailer editing.

Yeah I was kinda heartened by how goofy it looks. I mean, it looks dumb as hell but it might be an enjoyable trainwreck.

I can well believe the two 'jokes' in the trailer are the only two in the film.

getting heavy pre-Riddler (as in the scientist before he is transformed) Jim Carrey vibes from him

really psyched to see the big alien thing in the sky shooting at skyscrapers, like that hasnt been in half a dozen of these damn movies already